Official Slider Discussion Thread

[parker002]

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Yea it was my problem somwhat but not always. My bigger problem I think is blocking bodyshots like yourself. CPU is usually connecting at an 80% clip though they usually don't throw more than 100 punches to the body in my fights. I'm gonna try toughness at 3 for a bit and see of that works. If not I may try going back to default or your original setting of 4 for power and 2 for toughness.

Let me know what you find out. The only warning I would give about 4 PWR and 2 TGH is that the power-based training games will be impossible, don't know if that matters to you or not.

[DiceMan]

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Let me know what you find out. The only warning I would give about 4 PWR and 2 TGH is that the power-based training games will be impossible, don't know if that matters to you or not.

I didn't really have a problem with the training games at that setting.

[DiceMan]

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Well I have 2 fights under my belt with parker's sliders and toughness at 3 and I have scored 2 KO victories. Still a lil POed cuz I put one guy down 3 times (twice in a rd) and he found a away to get up and almost beat me. I still had to to put him down once more to KO him. I think toughness at 3 may work for me as I have not scored a KO victory since my 2nd fight in my leagacy. I am now 8(4)-4-1

[jb12780]

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Parker can you post your pro sliders??

[parker002]

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I didn't really have a problem with the training games at that setting.

How was the heavy bag push with Power at 4? And what weight class and power ratings for your fighter?

[parker002]

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Parker can you post your pro sliders??

I will post them when I get home tonight.

[jb12780]

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I will post them when I get home tonight.

Is it a challenge with the pro sliders?? Have you lost a fight with them?

[parker002]

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Is it a challenge with the pro sliders?? Have you lost a fight with them?

I've been knocked out in Fight Now with them, yes. But early Legacy was so ridiculously easy that I had to go back to tweaking. I should be able to post them tonight.

[JBH3]

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I would reccomend Parkers for now:

Difficulty - Champion

Ref Foul AWR - 10
Ref DAM AWR - 10
PWR - 7
SPD - 3
DAM - 10
TGH - 5
CPU Off AWR - 3
CPU Def AWR - 7
Output - 1

I play them with the wide camera angle and the HUD off - 2 minute rounds.

I've been using these, and love the challenge they've presented.

I've created 3 boxers, one of which I've had success w/; my light-heavyweight Johnny West.

My only issue is that it's near impossible for me, at any given point in a match when a TKO isn't in effect, to get up after my 3rd knockdown.

Is there a slider for this?

In a couple cases I've been knocked down when having a fair amount of health/stamina, but the CPU just landed a huge blow on my rather weak chin.

[parker002]

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I've been using these, and love the challenge they've presented.

I've created 3 boxers, one of which I've had success w/; my light-heavyweight Johnny West.

My only issue is that it's near impossible for me, at any given point in a match when a TKO isn't in effect, to get up after my 3rd knockdown.

Is there a slider for this?

In a couple cases I've been knocked down when having a fair amount of health/stamina, but the CPU just landed a huge blow on my rather weak chin.

You're doing better than me. I'm never able to get up after the 2nd knockdown. There isn't a slider for it, nor I have I seen that they're adding one in the first DLC.

[slayter]

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How was the heavy bag push with Power at 4? And what weight class and power ratings for your fighter?

I'm also using these settings and have o problem with the heavy bag push. I score champion each time.

I'm using a heavyweight and quickly worked my right hand power up to 80 with your settings. If I miss the zone I quickly jab the hell out of the bag in the correct zone to make sure it doesn't come back towards me. Seems to work every time.

[ragnarok1978]

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I can understand and agree with alot of the frustration with the pro to champion variation, especially in legacy mode.

I've personally come to terms with the fact that pro gives me the least frustrations, but is a cakewalk the first 15-20 fights. I've been fiddling with sliders today and have decided on these for now:

Rags Legacy Mode sliders - Beta version 0.1:

Difficulty - Pro

Ref Foul AWR - 10
Ref DAM AWR - 10
PWR - 4
SPD - 3
DAM - 8
TGH - 2
OFF AWR - 7
DEF AWR - 10
OUTPUT - 3

These sliders have "drawbacks" in training, where your boxer speed will affect your performance on the double-end bag and his power will make the heavy bag push a challenge. Personally I score contender most of the time, which does net me more points than autotraining, and my chances of champion climbs as my boxers attributes do.

I dont fiddle with sliders for training, and I have auto-save on, so if I BUM training from time to time so be it. Not having to adjust sliders I prefer this minus in training, and it helps keep matches competitive, when your boxer isn't getting the maximum amount every training round.

Give the sliders a try and leave your feedback. I still am not 100% sure on the setting for DAM, OFF AWR, DEF AWR & OUTPUT. Whereas I feel pretty confident that I hit the sweet spot for PWR, SPD and TGH based on previous debate in this thread and personal testing.

[parker002]

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I'm also using these settings and have o problem with the heavy bag push. I score champion each time.

I'm using a heavyweight and quickly worked my right hand power up to 80 with your settings. If I miss the zone I quickly jab the hell out of the bag in the correct zone to make sure it doesn't come back towards me. Seems to work every time.

I'm playing as a lightweight, so that makes a world of difference. I'm not expecting to get Champion, but I would like to at least get prospect once in a while!

[parker002]

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I can understand and agree with alot of the frustration with the pro to champion variation, especially in legacy mode.

I've personally come to terms with the fact that pro gives me the least frustrations, but is a cakewalk the first 15-20 fights.

So you're saying that Legacy gets alot harder, even on Pro, once you get farther in? I quit my Pro-level legacy after my 6th fight. I won my 1st 5 fights by KO in the 1st or 2nd round. In my 6th fight, I decided to take on a guy who was 19(6)-6-3. I crushed him, knocked him out in the 1st. As a LIGHTWEIGHT.

I've been fiddling with sliders today and have decided on these for now:

Rags Legacy Mode sliders - Beta version 0.1:

Difficulty - Pro

Ref Foul AWR - 10
Ref DAM AWR - 10
PWR - 4
SPD - 3
DAM - 8
TGH - 2
OFF AWR - 7
DEF AWR - 10
OUTPUT - 3

Wow, these look almost identical to my first set of Champion sliders. I'm gonna have to try it out.

These sliders have "drawbacks" in training, where your boxer speed will affect your performance on the double-end bag and his power will make the heavy bag push a challenge. Personally I score contender most of the time, which does net me more points than autotraining, and my chances of champion climbs as my boxers attributes do.

This is EXACTLY how I want to play - a novice lightweight shouldn't get constant Champion scores on the heavy bag push, and a heavyweight with poor footspeed SHOULD struggle with the double-end bag.

I dont fiddle with sliders for training, and I have auto-save on, so if I BUM training from time to time so be it. Not having to adjust sliders I prefer this minus in training, and it helps keep matches competitive, when your boxer isn't getting the maximum amount every training round.

Again, this is how I would like my Legacy to go too, so maybe you're onto something here.

Give the sliders a try and leave your feedback. I still am not 100% sure on the setting for DAM, OFF AWR, DEF AWR & OUTPUT. Whereas I feel pretty confident that I hit the sweet spot for PWR, SPD and TGH based on previous debate in this thread and personal testing.

I would max out both CPU AWR sliders and max damage too, but that's just me.

[ragnarok1978]

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Well, I find that legacy starts heating up when you hit top 25 or so. My first 10 fight were all won by a KO between the 2nd and 5th round, but have since then been in the 7th, 6th, 9th, 8th, 4th and then the desicion.

I just had my best fight yet with these sliders with my heavyweight fighter.

I took on the guy ranked 18, while I was ranked 21st. My OVR was 79, his 78. He had a height (6'7" vs my 6'2") and reach advantage (81" vs my 75"). Our puch strength was about the same, but he was faster and had better toughness, with me winning in the blocking and puch accuracy department.

The fight went all 10 rounds, and I won by a 95/94, 95/96, 96/95 split desicion after being outboxed most of the fight. I landed 52% of my punches (392/747) and he 64% (436/681), and the deciding factor was me flooring him once in the 9th round (flash uppercut) and dominating the 10th, but even the commentator has some remark about the result being questionable :-)

Thanks for the feedback, I'll try jacking up the awr and dmg.