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  • DereckM
    Pro
    • Jan 2004
    • 774

    #16
    Re: EA going backwards? FN4 is a step back from FN3

    Originally posted by theanswer34
    You mean sig punchs not styles, fn 3 was good but imo i felt it was the old gen engine with good graphics. Fn 4 first fight night I actually had a match go to a decision.
    I think punches are a part of the overall style of a fighter. But either way its a step back. Seems like the whole sim, and signature thing was like 80% finished or something.

    Anyway as I stated I still think its better than FN3 in certain areas. But after all this time I thought it would take the things FN3 had and add. Its almost like they didnt even use FN3 as a reference, which is ok but thats why to some it feels unpolished to a degree.

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    • parker002
      MVP
      • Oct 2004
      • 1465

      #17
      Re: EA going backwards? FN4 is a step back from FN3

      Originally posted by OttoOC
      It's two steps forward.
      More than two.

      I mean, FNR4 is not perfect. Far from it actually.

      But comparing it to FNR3 is like comparing a Rolls Royce with a flat tire to a Plymouth Reliant. Sure the Rolls has a flat, but it's still INFINITELY better than a POS.
      Recovering slider addict...Fight Night Round 4 caused me to relapse...

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      • StonesRunIt
        Banned
        • Sep 2006
        • 646

        #18
        Re: EA going backwards? FN4 is a step back from FN3

        If 1) stamina was better, 2) there was a limit to consecutive punches which correlated to stamina ( or had the power of the 3rd and 4th punch severely reduced), 3) the speed was up a bit ( 7 or 8 on the sliders) and 4) you could flash knockdown someone w/o a counter and 5) the bugs were fixed

        This game would be prefect IMO, i listed because if you made the same type of list for round 3, you would be upwards of 15.

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        • M.I.M.L.
          Banned
          • May 2006
          • 330

          #19
          Re: EA going backwards? FN4 is a step back from FN3

          Originally posted by parker002
          More than two.

          I mean, FNR4 is not perfect. Far from it actually.

          But comparing it to FNR3 is like comparing a Rolls Royce with a flat tire to a Plymouth Reliant. Sure the Rolls has a flat, but it's still INFINITELY better than a POS.
          i have lost my bet so i have to vamos but can u please explain to me beofre i go, why u think fight night round 4 is so much better than round 3, the answers i see are"better by a mile" and "not ven close" but please go into detail

          the computer ai is no doubt better , but other than that what makes this better

          whats the difference in picking cotto or whitaker or jones, everything looks the same imho.........but please tell me in a nice paragraph why its better than round 3............please dont say legacy, it is(openly Admitteded at easports forums) a unfished and unpolished game mode and its to anyone who sees that

          but go ahead.........................

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          • JayBee74
            Hall Of Fame
            • Jul 2002
            • 22989

            #20
            Re: EA going backwards? FN4 is a step back from FN3

            Originally posted by M.I.M.L.
            i have lost my bet so i have to vamos but can u please explain to me beofre i go, why u think fight night round 4 is so much better than round 3, the answers i see are"better by a mile" and "not ven close" but please go into detail

            the computer ai is no doubt better , but other than that what makes this better

            whats the difference in picking cotto or whitaker or jones, everything looks the same imho.........but please tell me in a nice paragraph why its better than round 3............please dont say legacy, it is(openly Admitteded at easports forums) a unfished and unpolished game mode and its to anyone who sees that

            but go ahead.........................
            LOL, you want an "essay" from me now M.I.M.L?
            Your main complaint about FN3 was the parry system which was the essence of the game-master it and button punch and you're in the Top 10% online. How about the lack of inside fighting (I know in your mind FN3 had a good enough inside fighting system, minus the force field.) What about the stamina-fatigue factor-FN 3 didn't have it, and for all the complaints about FN4's stamina issues it is head and shoulders above FN3's.
            I don't get your gripe about all the fighters looking the same.

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            • phillyfan23
              MVP
              • Feb 2005
              • 2313

              #21
              Re: EA going backwards? FN4 is a step back from FN3

              Originally posted by StonesRunIt
              If 1) stamina was better, 2) there was a limit to consecutive punches which correlated to stamina ( or had the power of the 3rd and 4th punch severely reduced), 3) the speed was up a bit ( 7 or 8 on the sliders) and 4) you could flash knockdown someone w/o a counter and 5) the bugs were fixed

              This game would be prefect IMO, i listed because if you made the same type of list for round 3, you would be upwards of 15.

              Ya your 1 to 5 list for FNR4 is really al the game needs to be flawless. I really wish we can communicate that to one of the devs, or via the community guy. These things can be easily fixed via a patch and it would be a shame if the devs don't hear these as the main concerns.

              i'd like to add one thing though.....I think you also need to increase the cross power for the big guys like Lennox Lewis. His cross were absolute bombs, and it just doesn't feel that way when playing.

              If you want it to be customizable add 5 sliders

              hook power
              Uppercut power
              Cross Power
              Counterpunch power
              Stamina slider

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              • jtdribbles25
                Banned
                • Aug 2003
                • 1415

                #22
                Re: EA going backwards? FN4 is a step back from FN3

                Originally posted by M.I.M.L.
                i have lost my bet so i have to vamos but can u please explain to me beofre i go, why u think fight night round 4 is so much better than round 3, the answers i see are"better by a mile" and "not ven close" but please go into detail

                the computer ai is no doubt better , but other than that what makes this better

                whats the difference in picking cotto or whitaker or jones, everything looks the same imho.........but please tell me in a nice paragraph why its better than round 3............please dont say legacy, it is(openly Admitteded at easports forums) a unfished and unpolished game mode and its to anyone who sees that

                but go ahead.........................
                graphics are better.

                the AI is much better. And that counts for a whoooooole lot.

                Although not easy to master, the counterpunch mechanic is much better than the ridiculous parrying.

                The legacy mode, although shallow, provides some great variability.

                The physics and inside fighting are remarkably better.

                The varying ko's are better as well as the stamina system that allows for this.

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                • parker002
                  MVP
                  • Oct 2004
                  • 1465

                  #23
                  Re: EA going backwards? FN4 is a step back from FN3

                  Originally posted by M.I.M.L.
                  i have lost my bet so i have to vamos but can u please explain to me beofre i go, why u think fight night round 4 is so much better than round 3, the answers i see are"better by a mile" and "not ven close" but please go into detail

                  the computer ai is no doubt better , but other than that what makes this better

                  whats the difference in picking cotto or whitaker or jones, everything looks the same imho.........but please tell me in a nice paragraph why its better than round 3............please dont say legacy, it is(openly Admitteded at easports forums) a unfished and unpolished game mode and its to anyone who sees that

                  but go ahead.........................
                  I haven't even started legacy yet, so I won't use that.

                  How many fights have you played in Play Now mode? Because the different fighters most certainly do NOT all fight the same. Not in the slightest.
                  Recovering slider addict...Fight Night Round 4 caused me to relapse...

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                  • ClickClickZoom
                    Rookie
                    • Apr 2009
                    • 46

                    #24
                    Re: EA going backwards? FN4 is a step back from FN3

                    The only step backwards EA took was removing a control scheme that so many gamers found more user friendly.

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                    • Rawdeal28
                      Swiitch U? lol
                      • Oct 2007
                      • 7407

                      #25
                      Re: EA going backwards? FN4 is a step back from FN3

                      Originally posted by DereckM

                      3 looked better of course im sure we can all agree on that .
                      lol man please. i have both and 4 looks better. colors more vibrant and bright. 3 looks dark compared to 4. looks like someone is just holding a flashlight down on the fighters. FN4 runs at a clean and beautiful 1080p.
                      Originally posted by M.I.M.L.
                      styles
                      graphics
                      no spamming
                      better stamina
                      boxers felt different not just clones
                      counterpunching/dodging
                      stick and move
                      punches had weight
                      gameplay besides the terrible parry system




                      but even with all my hate towards the game i still think it is solid 7, if they add buttons even higher, i like many things they did here but do also feel they regressed
                      graphics explained above
                      no spamming lmao. 3 was haymaker city
                      better stamina how many fights went the distance in 3? exactly.
                      boxers felt different not just clones everyone had Knockout power in 3. tyson and ali dont play the same.

                      counterpunching/dodging parrying better than blocking? lol lets fight in real life so i can slap ur hand away.

                      stick and move i do it all the time in 4. up the speed slider

                      punches had weight only the jabs and straights.
                      gameplay besides the terrible parry system

                      lol 4 is better, period
                      Originally posted by tomriddle
                      as the novelty is wearing off.. the two greatest things i can say about this game are
                      1. self CAB
                      2. uploading ko videos online

                      ...after that I'd say FN3 is better and I am dissapointed with FN4

                      anyone else feel the same way? that EA took a step back with this game?

                      when the two best things you can say about the game are CAB and upload videos, and nothing about actual gameplay

                      ......I dunno man, maybe it's me but in my never humble opinion

                      EA went backwards because FN3 is far preferable to FN4
                      no
                      Originally posted by DereckM
                      Anyway as I stated I still think its better than FN3 in certain areas. But after all this time I thought it would take the things FN3 had and add. Its almost like they didnt even use FN3 as a reference, which is ok but thats why to some it feels unpolished to a degree.
                      we got a new engine and u guys are still complaining lol.

                      here at OS, in every sports game forum u have people screaming to to get a new engine for the game. now u have one and u want to go back to the old one. lol gtfo
                      Originally posted by StonesRunIt
                      4) you could flash knockdown someone w/o a counter

                      .
                      u can do this round 4. i have done it several times already.
                      "on hoping there is a PSN flash sale before Valentine's Day"
                      Man there are no flashers... now what are we going to do for vd
                      I'm sure there's plenty of prostitutes you could pay if you really want vd.
                      yea but will they take psn cards
                      Depends on what area of a hooker you would use to redeem them.

                      lol

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                      • phillyfan23
                        MVP
                        • Feb 2005
                        • 2313

                        #26
                        Re: EA going backwards? FN4 is a step back from FN3

                        Originally posted by Rawdeal28
                        u can do this round 4. i have done it several times already.
                        yes you can KD or KO opponents without the counter but we're talking about the ratio. In the game now, to stun an opponent 8 times out of 10 you either need a haymaker, a sig punch or a counterpunch. the 2 of 10 to stun or KD a cpu opponent is either thru a regular hook/uppercut and very rarely a regular cross unless it's late in the match and the cpu energy bar is depleted. that ratio is way too high. Regular punches on the button SHOULD KD or KO opponent at a higher rate, more so the crosses for the lanky fighters.

                        Lower a bit the counter-punch power.
                        Raise a bit all regular punch power , especially the crosses.
                        PROBLEM SOLVED.

                        that way you can stun, KD, KO the cpu at a realistic rate for BOTH the counter/haymaker/sig and the regular on the button punches.

                        I've stunned a lot of boxers in the FIRST round, great boxers at that such as ALI, using the counter or the haymaker punch or the sig punch.

                        but please,show me the next time you stun an opponent using Lennox Lewis against Ed chambers ( a scrub HW) using a REGULAR cross punch that's not a counter, not a haymker or not a sig. punch in the FIRST round. It WON'T happen. I play on champion with boxer power at 7/10 and toughness at 5/10.

                        That's the problem.

                        test it out, and get back to me on that.

                        btw: I think fnr4 is a big step from 3, but it could achieve offline perfection if the punching mechanics are shored up..and stamina.
                        Last edited by phillyfan23; 06-29-2009, 12:16 AM.

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                        • HotSauce2k3
                          MVP
                          • Nov 2002
                          • 1848

                          #27
                          Re: EA going backwards? FN4 is a step back from FN3

                          No way. FN3 was way too robotic, slow, and easy. FN4 is 10x the boxing game FN3 is.

                          FN3 had better graphics and a better soundtrack... but it stops there.

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                          • Pappy Knuckles
                            LORDTHUNDERBIRD
                            • Sep 2004
                            • 15966

                            #28
                            Re: EA going backwards? FN4 is a step back from FN3

                            I loved Round 3 but Round 4 beats in just about every way possible.

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                            • tomriddle
                              Banned
                              • Nov 2004
                              • 1044

                              #29
                              Re: EA going backwards? FN4 is a step back from FN3

                              well I'm glad you guys enjoy FN4

                              I'm taking it back to gamestop tomorrow

                              peace

                              I just hope they let me trade it in for FN3 lmfao!!

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                              • jtdribbles25
                                Banned
                                • Aug 2003
                                • 1415

                                #30
                                Re: EA going backwards? FN4 is a step back from FN3

                                Originally posted by tomriddle
                                well I'm glad you guys enjoy FN4

                                I'm taking it back to gamestop tomorrow

                                peace

                                I just hope they let me trade it in for FN3 lmfao!!
                                I'll trade you mine.

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