Pacquio Agrees to Mayweathers Blood Testing Demands

[Illustrator76]

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Here we go with the Arum lying thing again. Why hasn't he had any issues making any other fights for Manny? Why all of the sudden is the Floyd Mayweather bout sooooo tough to put together even after the blood testing has been agreed to? Mayweather's camp is scared and straight lying through their teeth and the story in BiggestKJ's post proves it.

Here is the quote:

Oscar De La Hoya, the founder and president of Golden Boy Promotions, acknowledged negotiations during an early June appearance on a talk show on Spanish-language network Univision. During his appearance, in which he spoke Spanish, De La Hoya said the deal for the fight was very close.

So I guess Arum has Floyd's promoter in his pocket and lying for him too? There has never been a fighter in the history of boxing that has had this many issues putting together a fight, ever. People who continue to make any more excuses for Floyd are flat out ignoring reality just because they like Floyd. The De La Hoya quote clearly confirms that negotiations were taking place and that a deal was very close, so I don't see how you can come to any other conclusion other than Floyd is scared and lying (it's not like he's never been accused of being either one of things). I would really like to hear an excuse for Floyd's own promoter lying about negotiations taking place too, seriously, this should be a good one.

[King_B_Mack]

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Here we go with the Arum lying thing again. Why hasn't he had any issues making any other fights for Manny? Why all of the sudden is the Floyd Mayweather bout sooooo tough to put together even after the blood testing has been agreed to? Mayweather's camp is scared and straight lying through their teeth and the story in BiggestKJ's post proves it.

Here is the quote:


So I guess Arum has Floyd's promoter in his pocket and lying for him too? There has never been a fighter in the history of boxing that has had this many issues putting together a fight, ever. People who continue to make any more excuses for Floyd are flat out ignoring reality just because they like Floyd. The De La Hoya quote clearly confirms that negotiations were taking place and that a deal was very close, so I don't see how you can come to any other conclusion other than Floyd is scared and lying (it's not like he's never been accused of being either one of things). I would really like to hear an excuse for Floyd's own promoter lying about negotiations taking place too, seriously, this should be a good one.

Honestly I don't know what to believe anymore, but what I will say is that this is a bit confusing and I'm not entirely sure what to make of it, because the deadline that was set for Floyd was when they could begin "exclusively negotiating" a deal. It's been being reported and Arum has been talking as if a deal for the fight had been reached, all the details taken care of and whatnot. If that's the case, what else is there to exclusively negotiate? So I really don't get what's going on with this thing either way.

[Money99]

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For the life of me, I can't figure out why Arum seems so intent on making Pacquiao v. Cotto II....ummm WHY?!?!?

Couldn't agree more. I have less-than-zero interest in seeing him fight Cotto - at any weight.
I'd love to see him dance with Berto, Bradley or even Margarito. But please, no Cotto.

As for Mayweather, who's left to fight if not Pac? He wants to take a break and that's fine. I don't blame him.
But if Pac is going to fight in November, then he has to wait till at least February or March to fight him. In the meantime, is he going to chill for the next 8-10 months?
If not, who's he going to fight? There's no big name left out there that can make the kind of money that Pac can. And since Mayweather is all about the money, then why isn't he fighting Pac? The man continues to talk out of both sides of his mouth.
"I only fight for the money. But I'm going to turn down $40M to so I can make $20M to fight a bum instead". Huh?

Enough already. I wish both fighters would grow a pair, tell their promoters to STFU and get a deal done on their own.
Both can make $40M (plus more with PPV) and I truly believe that even the loser in this fight won't actually have 'lost'. I don't see either guy getting KO'd in horrific fashion and I'd wager it would go at least 8 rounds, if not longer.
Nobody here can tell me that Floyd's value would devalue all that much if he lost a hard-fought 12 round battle. Same with Pac. And the chances of this thing going the distance are much greater than either guy getting put to sleep in the first few rounds.

[Dame]

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I'm done with this fight. I blame Pac for the first time. Dont know who to blame this time since we are getting two different stories.(but not Pac) They both are letting their fans down. Nobody will pay for a fight if these 2 are not fighting each other. I hate Bob Arum the most as matter of fact i blame him even for the first fight. I hate MMA/UCF but Dana White is having the last laugh for sure especially after that last UCF fight.

[Illustrator76]

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Honestly I don't know what to believe anymore, but what I will say is that this is a bit confusing and I'm not entirely sure what to make of it, because the deadline that was set for Floyd was when they could begin "exclusively negotiating" a deal. It's been being reported and Arum has been talking as if a deal for the fight had been reached, all the details taken care of and whatnot. If that's the case, what else is there to exclusively negotiate? So I really don't get what's going on with this thing either way.

I can somewhat understand where you are coming from except for one thing. Regardless of whether on not it was "exclusive negotiating" or a deal had already been done, there was at the very least confirmation from both promoters that negotiations for the fight were well under way. For the Mayweather camp to come out now and flat out lie and say that no negotiations were ever even talked about smells like cowardice and fear to me. On top of the fact that Floyd flat out said he "isn't thinking about boxing right now", and never once brought up the lack of negotiations for not fighting Manny, furthers my suspicion that Mayweather is flat out scared and is running out of excuses to make.

[King_B_Mack]

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I can somewhat understand where you are coming from except for one thing. Regardless of whether on not it was "exclusive negotiating" or a deal had already been done, there was at the very least confirmation from both promoters that negotiations for the fight were well under way. For the Mayweather camp to come out now and flat out lie and say that no negotiations were ever even talked about smells like cowardice and fear to me. On top of the fact that Floyd flat out said he "isn't thinking about boxing right now", and never once brought up the lack of negotiations for not fighting Manny, furthers my suspicion that Mayweather is flat out scared and is running out of excuses to make.

This is were the problem lies though. The deadline seems to be for starting negotiations. If the deal was done, near done, very close or however De Le Hoya said it was, why the hell is there a seperate deadline for negotiations on something that's already wrapped up or just about wrapped up? I can see Mayweather's camp saying no negotiations have taken place since Arum himself is implying that there have been no negotiations. They were saying on ESPN, on Around the Horn as a matter of fact I remember one of the guy's face time being about Floyd having a contract in his possesion for this fight that he's too scared to sign and yet the whole deadline business which came SINCE De Le Hoya's comments are about a window to negotiate before they move on?

I'm not trying to take a shot at you or nothing, but you have had your mind made up from the begining that PBF is scared of Manny and every time something comes up you're here banging that drum before all the details are even examined. Somebody is lying and history dictates that it's usually Arum. Is it him this time? Unclear, but I'm not ready to say that it's Floyd yet either.

[Illustrator76]

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This is were the problem lies though. The deadline seems to be for starting negotiations. If the deal was done, near done, very close or however De Le Hoya said it was, why the hell is there a seperate deadline for negotiations on something that's already wrapped up or just about wrapped up? I can see Mayweather's camp saying no negotiations have taken place since Arum himself is implying that there have been no negotiations. They were saying on ESPN, on Around the Horn as a matter of fact I remember one of the guy's face time being about Floyd having a contract in his possesion for this fight that he's too scared to sign and yet the whole deadline business which came SINCE De Le Hoya's comments are about a window to negotiate before they move on?

I'm not trying to take a shot at you or nothing, but you have had your mind made up from the begining that PBF is scared of Manny and every time something comes up you're here banging that drum before all the details are even examined. Somebody is lying and history dictates that it's usually Arum. Is it him this time? Unclear, but I'm not ready to say that it's Floyd yet either.

Dude, that is untrue, it is plain as day who is lying here. The deadline was for EXCLUSIVE negotiations between Manny and Floyd, meaning that if they didn't finalize/strike a deal by the deadline (because things were taking so long) then the Manny camp was going to start negotiations for other fights. I have no clue where you are getting this whole idea that the exclusive negotiations haven't even begun yet, they've been ongoing. That's why IN JUNE Oscar De La Hoya said that the two sides were negotiating and close to a deal, because apparently they were. The whole thing started taking too long and the Mayweather camp started BSing, so that's when Arum imposed the deadline to get the deal finalized within a certain timeframe or Manny moves on.

Your scenario makes absolutely no sense and you continue to beat the drum (and completely distort reality/the facts) of Bob Arum somehow making this whole thing up, even when Floyd's promoter himself said that they were negotiating and that a deal was almost done. Minus the De La Hoya comments in June, I could see you having somewhat valid suspicions of Bob Arum lying or making this up, but you can't deny the facts. BOTH promoters have confirmed ongoing negotiations since at least June, yet the Mayweather camp magically denies that they have ever heard anything about it. You even said yourself that a reporter stated that there was a contract ready, but that Floyd is too scared to sign it, so I'm hardly the only one saying that. I simply thought it was impossible for Mayweather followers to make excuses for this crap, but I see now that anything is possible.

[jrrawlins]

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Mayweather might be done..... if his uncle Roger has to do some real jail time i dont think that Floyd will fight again until he is released which could be some considerable time if all of the charges stick..... the reason Mayweather didnt and/or wont sign is because of his uncle.... can you imagine Manny trying to fight without Freddie Roach? that **** wouldnt happen...
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[Dame]

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Mayweather might be done..... if his uncle Roger has to do some real jail time i dont think that Floyd will fight again until he is released which could be some considerable time if all of the charges stick..... the reason Mayweather didnt and/or wont sign is because of his uncle.... can you imagine Manny trying to fight without Freddie Roach? that **** wouldnt happen...
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This makes the most sense but this wont be proven until after the case he cant come out and say this because it will make his Uncle look guilty

[Kanobi]

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I simply thought it was impossible for Mayweather followers to make excuses for this crap, but I see now that anything is possible.

It took you this long to see that? lol

[Kanobi]

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[edaddy]

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Couldn't agree more. I have less-than-zero interest in seeing him fight Cotto - at any weight.
I'd love to see him dance with Berto, Bradley or even Margarito. But please, no Cotto.

As for Mayweather, who's left to fight if not Pac? He wants to take a break and that's fine. I don't blame him.
But if Pac is going to fight in November, then he has to wait till at least February or March to fight him. In the meantime, is he going to chill for the next 8-10 months?
If not, who's he going to fight? There's no big name left out there that can make the kind of money that Pac can. And since Mayweather is all about the money, then why isn't he fighting Pac? The man continues to talk out of both sides of his mouth.
"I only fight for the money. But I'm going to turn down $40M to so I can make $20M to fight a bum instead". Huh?

Enough already. I wish both fighters would grow a pair, tell their promoters to STFU and get a deal done on their own.
Both can make $40M (plus more with PPV) and I truly believe that even the loser in this fight won't actually have 'lost'. I don't see either guy getting KO'd in horrific fashion and I'd wager it would go at least 8 rounds, if not longer.
Nobody here can tell me that Floyd's value would devalue all that much if he lost a hard-fought 12 round battle. Same with Pac. And the chances of this thing going the distance are much greater than either guy getting put to sleep in the first few rounds.

Mark my words Mayweather will fight Bradley next.Bradley is small welterweight moving up from Junior welter and does not possess the power or speed to hurt Mayweather. He is the perfect opponent a named smaller fighter who pses no threat but will enable him to make money. They wil build the fight up as a clash of the champions type thing since Bradley is a Junior welter champ. Don't let that Roger Mayweather stuff fool you his father is just as capable as Roger to train him. He simply does not want the Pac fight ..at least not now..He knows it's a big big risk and like Brian Kinney from ESPN said Mayweather is scared to death of losing that undefeated title... and beleive me Mayweather don't want that war that's coming his way with Pac..wars ruin boxer's careers....

[Money99]

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Mark my words Mayweather will fight Bradley next.Bradley is small welterweight moving up from Junior welter and does not possess the power or speed to hurt Mayweather. He is the perfect opponent a named smaller fighter who pses no threat but will enable him to make money. They wil build the fight up as a clash of the champions type thing since Bradley is a Junior welter champ. Don't let that Roger Mayweather stuff fool you his father is just as capable as Roger to train him. He simply does not want the Pac fight ..at least not now..He knows it's a big big risk and like Brian Kinney from ESPN said Mayweather is scared to death of losing that undefeated title... and beleive me Mayweather don't want that war that's coming his way with Pac..wars ruin boxer's careers....

Good points.
I like Bradley, but I'm not sure he can bang out with any true welterweights. I hope he goes back down to 140. And if he fights either Mayweather or Pac, he should fight at a catch-weight to make things somewhat fair.

But I have a feeling Mayweather is going to be true to his word. He'll take the next 6-10 months off.

Pac might as well too. There really isn't another fight out there for either guy that would get me excited.

[Illustrator76]

Re: Pacquio Agrees to Mayweathers Blood Testing Demands

Mark my words Mayweather will fight Bradley next.Bradley is small welterweight moving up from Junior welter and does not possess the power or speed to hurt Mayweather. He is the perfect opponent a named smaller fighter who pses no threat but will enable him to make money. They wil build the fight up as a clash of the champions type thing since Bradley is a Junior welter champ. Don't let that Roger Mayweather stuff fool you his father is just as capable as Roger to train him. He simply does not want the Pac fight ..at least not now..He knows it's a big big risk and like Brian Kinney from ESPN said Mayweather is scared to death of losing that undefeated title... and beleive me Mayweather don't want that war that's coming his way with Pac..wars ruin boxer's careers....

Exactly! Perfect call, that's exactly the kind of thing Floyd would do if he decides to fight again soon, which I suspect he will. It also wouldn't surprise me if Floyd wants Manny to fight a few more tough welterweights or go through a few more "wars" while Floyd sits back and cherry picks more non-threatening fights. If those fights start to take their toll on Manny and we start to see a lot of slippage in his game, then I bet any amount of money all of the sudden Floyd would have no problem at all signing a deal to fight Manny. Floyd knows that fighting Manny right now is very hazardous to his health/career/legacy.

[Kanobi]

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It also wouldn't surprise me if Floyd wants Manny to fight a few more tough welterweights or go through a few more "wars" while Floyd sits back and cherry picks more non-threatening fights. If those fights start to take their toll on Manny and we start to see a lot of slippage in his game, then I bet any amount of money all of the sudden Floyd would have no problem at all signing a deal to fight Manny. Floyd knows that fighting Manny right now is very hazardous to his health/career/legacy.

Bing - mother f'in - O