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  • Money99
    Hall Of Fame
    • Sep 2002
    • 12696

    #121
    Re: Pacquio Agrees to Mayweathers Blood Testing Demands

    I have a feeling we'll know who's going to win this fight after 2 rounds (probably even 1).
    If Pac's speed is so great that not even Mayweather can counter, it's over. But if Mayweather is able to roll and counter, then Pac's in for a long night.

    No update yet. Just posturing. Which to me, means the deals almost done:

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    • Illustrator76
      Sorry, I Got Nothing...
      • Jan 2003
      • 2216

      #122
      Re: Pacquio Agrees to Mayweathers Blood Testing Demands

      Originally posted by King_B_Mack
      You know, you sound like a guy who's a prime canidate for needing to give this video a full viewing, especially once it gets into weight near the end of the viewing.
      Not even going to look at the video. Like I said, I give up, no matter what I say or how I say it, I can't win. I give Floyd some credit for a win over Mosley but want him to continue to step up and fight real dangerous Welterweights, and people just take something else out of my comments to argue about. You all win, and I believe Manny will too....if Floyd steps up and takes the fight.
      Last edited by Illustrator76; 06-25-2010, 01:36 PM.

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      • Money99
        Hall Of Fame
        • Sep 2002
        • 12696

        #123
        Re: Pacquio Agrees to Mayweathers Blood Testing Demands

        Originally posted by King_B_Mack
        You know, you sound like a guy who's a prime canidate for needing to give this video a full viewing, especially once it gets into weight near the end of the viewing.
        I don't see the argument regarding weight.
        When Pac fought Marquez at 130, while both guys came into the ring at 140+, they still had to get to 130 24 hours before the bout.

        Against Mayweather, PBF didn't have to starve himself as much. And while Marquez might have entered the ring at about the weight as his bout with Pac, it's still a different dynamic and routine to 'making weight' at 147.
        A perfect example of this is Pavlik. Dude routinely fights at 170 as a middleweight.
        When fighting Hop, he came in around the same weight that he does with MW. However, because of the difference in training for one weight over another, he didn't look nearly as sharp.

        And we still can't overlook that Marquez is much better when fighting as a lightweight. That's his prime division. This fight could have been a lot more competitive at a catch-weight of 138-140.

        P.S. There's also a reason Mayweather rarely allows himself to be weighed the night of the fight.
        Last edited by Money99; 06-25-2010, 01:43 PM.

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        • grunt
          Banned
          • Jul 2002
          • 9527

          #124
          Re: Pacquio Agrees to Mayweathers Blood Testing Demands

          Originally posted by Money99
          I have a feeling we'll know who's going to win this fight after 2 rounds (probably even 1).
          If Pac's speed is so great that not even Mayweather can counter, it's over. But if Mayweather is able to roll and counter, then Pac's in for a long night.

          No update yet. Just posturing. Which to me, means the deals almost done:

          http://www.mayweather-pacquiao.com/b...jr-mega-fight/
          Very fair assesment but I think Floyd have more tools to make adjustments in the fight.

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          • Money99
            Hall Of Fame
            • Sep 2002
            • 12696

            #125
            Re: Pacquio Agrees to Mayweathers Blood Testing Demands

            Originally posted by grunt
            Very fair assesment but I think Floyd have more tools to make adjustments in the fight.
            He certainly showed it against Mosley. It seemed he wanted to slug it out at first, got tagged, and then changed strategies.
            I'm sure he would adjust against Pac too if need be.

            Regarding Mayweather power, he doesn't have great pop to his punches, but where he keeps guys honest is in hitting you with shots you don't see. And we all know, those are the ones that hurt the most regardless of how hard they're thrown.

            That's why you saw guys like Oscar, Hatton and Mosley hold back instead of throwing in bunches like they normally do.
            If Pac can walk through those shots, he'll have PBF where he wants him. But nobody's been able to do that against Floyd thus far.

            I want this fight to live up to the hype so badly. But if Pac can be countered like Mosley was, it'll be another lopsided victory for Floyd.

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            • kcxiv
              Banned
              • Dec 2005
              • 2564

              #126
              Re: Pacquio Agrees to Mayweathers Blood Testing Demands

              First off Hatton sucks. He was never a top tier fighter not even close. Mosely ran out of gas in the 2nd, that happens to old fighters sometimes. The Oscar fight was a very very close fight. Its not that guys like him cant take what he has, its that, they cant really hit him. Floyd's D is insanely good. Its like why try to go for a knock out wheni can just do what i do and win anyways. He throws in a few clean shots for looks. If Mosely didnt get tired after the 2nd round, it would have been a whole different fight. He has Floyd hurt and hurt bad.

              Anyways, if they do fight,its going to be interesting. I dont know who will win, but i sure in the hell want to see.

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              • Kanobi
                H*F Cl*ss *f '09
                • Apr 2003
                • 6054

                #127
                Re: Pacquio Agrees to Mayweathers Blood Testing Demands

                Originally posted by Illustrator76
                people are taking my comments and making more out of them, telling me what I feel and what my "standards" are instead of reading my comments and taking them exactly how they are written.
                I empathize. Check out this gem...

                Originally posted by Kanobi
                Originally posted by grunt
                So, when did Cotto turn into a defensive fighter that makes a fighter miss and then punish the fighter with accurate/leverage punches?
                Cotto did counter Pacquiao...cleanly...throughout their entire fight...it did absolutely nothing to slow Pacquiao down. Really, for your argument -- that Floyd DOES have the power to make Pacquiao respect it and be hesitant -- to have any worth, you'd honestly have to believe Floyd has more power than Cotto. Do you? Yes or No?

                Originally posted by grunt
                Manny face was busted up by weak version Floyd (Clottey)
                Lmao@ 'Busted Up"....how would you define that? I certainly wouldn't consider how Pacquiao looked after the Clottey fight as busted up...



                Now this?.....




                ...That's "busted up"

                Originally posted by grunt
                You dealing with power out of context.
                ............... That's pure gold
                Last edited by Kanobi; 06-25-2010, 06:24 PM.

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                • King_B_Mack
                  All Star
                  • Jan 2009
                  • 24450

                  #128
                  Re: Pacquio Agrees to Mayweathers Blood Testing Demands

                  Originally posted by Kanobi
                  I empathize. Check out this gem...






                  ............... That's pure gold
                  Well considering the picture you chose to use was of Cotto after being hit by bricks from Margacheato he has a point to what he was saying. His face wasn't busted up from someone punching him with their natural power, it was from someone hitting him in the face with the equivilant of a cinderblock.

                  Perhaps he should have brought up Pac's face after the Morales fight as an example of busted up?
                  Last edited by King_B_Mack; 06-25-2010, 08:45 PM.

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                  • simgamer0005
                    MVP
                    • Feb 2010
                    • 1772

                    #129
                    Re: Pacquio Agrees to Mayweathers Blood Testing Demands

                    I think a lot of boxing fans look at it as "what have you done for me lately" without putting enough emphasis on the body of work. People were heavily criticizing Mayweather before taking the Mosley fight now are praising him. I respect Mayweather's talent. It's one of the best of all time. His body of work is solid, yet there's not that many wins over all time greats.

                    If Mayweather gets to 50 wins undefeated beating Pacquiao and Cotto in the process, he'd likely be considered the best ever. But maybe he only fights once more and retires for good. Does that make him better than Rocky Marciano?

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                    • grunt
                      Banned
                      • Jul 2002
                      • 9527

                      #130
                      Re: Pacquio Agrees to Mayweathers Blood Testing Demands

                      Originally posted by simgamer0005
                      I think a lot of boxing fans look at it as "what have you done for me lately" without putting enough emphasis on the body of work. People were heavily criticizing Mayweather before taking the Mosley fight now are praising him. I respect Mayweather's talent. It's one of the best of all time. His body of work is solid, yet there's not that many wins over all time greats.

                      If Mayweather gets to 50 wins undefeated beating Pacquiao and Cotto in the process, he'd likely be considered the best ever. But maybe he only fights once more and retires for good. Does that make him better than Rocky Marciano?
                      Here is the problem with boxing and sports in general that fans and pundits try to call current fighters all time greats. What is an all time great? Name an all time great that Pac has beaten? You fight for the money not for the "history".

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                      • Kanobi
                        H*F Cl*ss *f '09
                        • Apr 2003
                        • 6054

                        #131
                        Re: Pacquio Agrees to Mayweathers Blood Testing Demands

                        I was waiting on this and somebody took the bait...

                        Originally posted by King_B_Mack
                        Well considering the picture you chose to use was of Cotto after being hit by bricks from Margacheato he has a point to what he was saying. His face wasn't busted up from someone punching him with their natural power, it was from someone hitting him in the face with the equivilant of a cinderblock.
                        Okay...

                        Cotto after Margarito and Cinderblock...



                        Cotto after Pacquiao and No Cinderblock...



                        ... This thread is awesome! You guys are great!

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                        • King_B_Mack
                          All Star
                          • Jan 2009
                          • 24450

                          #132
                          Re: Pacquio Agrees to Mayweathers Blood Testing Demands

                          Originally posted by King_B_Mack
                          Well considering the picture you chose to use was of Cotto after being hit by bricks from Margacheato he has a point to what he was saying. His face wasn't busted up from someone punching him with their natural power, it was from someone hitting him in the face with the equivilant of a cinderblock.

                          Perhaps he should have brought up Pac's face after the Morales fight as an example of busted up?
                          Originally posted by Kanobi
                          I was waiting on this and somebody took the bait...



                          Okay...

                          Cotto after Margarito and Cinderblock...



                          Cotto after Pacquiao and No Cinderblock...



                          ... This thread is awesome! You guys are great!
                          Oh noz I've been baited! You sure got me.

                          I love the selectiveness of your post. Go after the one part I said and completely ignore the other. Okay I'll answer it for you, yes, let's use the Pacquiao shot after Morales



                          But I won't harp on that photo cause that's not what constitute a busted up face because sweat carries blood. It's why pro wrestlers can bleed like fountains from little cuts across the forehead from razor blades. Pacquiao opened two cuts on Cotto, one beneath his right eye (just like the one Clottey opened on Pac) and one just on the corner of the brow of his left eye which you got there bleeding. So of course it looks worse just before they got to it, just like Pac's face after the Morales fight, it hadn't been cleaned up yet.



                          That's how Cotto looked after the fight. Not too much worse than Pacquiao after the Clottey fight. I wanna find pics of Pac in the post fight interview of that Clottey fight you can see the swelling in his face a lot better.
                          Last edited by King_B_Mack; 06-27-2010, 11:34 AM.

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                          • grunt
                            Banned
                            • Jul 2002
                            • 9527

                            #133
                            Re: Pacquio Agrees to Mayweathers Blood Testing Demands

                            Originally posted by Kanobi
                            I was waiting on this and somebody took the bait...



                            Okay...

                            Cotto after Margarito and Cinderblock...



                            Cotto after Pacquiao and No Cinderblock...



                            ... This thread is awesome! You guys are great!
                            Doesn't matter because Floyd isn't Cotto. Floyd is going to make an aggressive fighter look wild,

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                            • Money99
                              Hall Of Fame
                              • Sep 2002
                              • 12696

                              #134
                              Re: Pacquio Agrees to Mayweathers Blood Testing Demands

                              Another update as to how negotiations are progressing:



                              According to this tweet from Comcast sports reporter Molly E. Sullivan, the Floyd Mayweather-Manny Pacquiao fight of myth and legend is suddenly becoming real; all set for late November in Las Vegas. Sullivan:

                              Lunch update from my #1 source in Vegas: Pacquio/Mayweather IS happening late Nov... Steve Wynn is building an outdoor venue just for fight.

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                              • South318
                                Rookie
                                • Oct 2008
                                • 149

                                #135
                                Re: Pacquio Agrees to Mayweathers Blood Testing Demands

                                I hope the fight happen so people can see how overrated Manny really is.
                                PSN ID: KING2812

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