Pacquio Agrees to Mayweathers Blood Testing Demands

[King_B_Mack]

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You are beyond hope if you really believe this is an easy fight for Mayweather. If it's such an easy fight, then why is Mayweather finding every reason (including retirement) to NOT fight Manny? Floyd doesn't have a chin, he has really good defense (I will give him that) and he fights people who are in no danger of hitting him, let alone hurting him. When he did fight someone who could hurt him, you saw what happened, he almost went down in the 2nd round off of one or two punches. If Shane didn't give up after not getting an instant KO, then things may have been different. Manny has power, speed, stamina and he doesn't give up. Floyd will be in trouble....period........if he mans up and takes the fight.

Dude you seriously need to take off your hate goggles for a bit. You're saying Floyd has no chin because he took someone's best shot flush and his knee buckled? Not he got knocked down, his knee buckled. If he had no chin, the fight would have been over after that shot, period. I knew it was a matter of time before the haters would come out in force discounting that Shane fight and Shane himself after spending the months leading up to it talking about Floyd "finally stepping up to a challenge" or "Getting prepared to get owned by Mosley." I guess you get credit though since I don't recall seeing you posting around here in the boxing section until now.

As for this being an easy fight, I personally don't think it will, but I certainly wouldn't be surprised if it was. Floyd and crew know how to gameplan and Pacquiao's fight against Clottey showed all you need to know from him. If Floyd really wanted to, he could just go into shell mode like Clottey early on which would throw Pacquiao off as he'd be expecting Floyd to be working the counterpunching game. See unlike most people, Floyd doesn't care about scoring KOs and he can wait out Manny's barrages of low percentage punches, running up his own accuracy points here and there along the way. Just like in the Clottey fight, Pac will get frustrated cause he wants the KOs and he'll get sloppy (moreso than usual) and that's when Floyd will take advantage and get into full counterpunch mode. I can definitely see that happening.

[grunt]

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You are beyond hope if you really believe this is an easy fight for Mayweather. If it's such an easy fight, then why is Mayweather finding every reason (including retirement) to NOT fight Manny? Floyd doesn't have a chin, he has really good defense (I will give him that) and he fights people who are in no danger of hitting him, let alone hurting him. When he did fight someone who could hurt him, you saw what happened, he almost went down in the 2nd round off of one or two punches. If Shane didn't give up after not getting an instant KO, then things may have been different. Manny has power, speed, stamina and he doesn't give up. Floyd will be in trouble....period........if he mans up and takes the fight.

The main objective in prize fighting is the prize. The fight will happen and when it happen Mayweather will beat the smaller/slower fighter.

Just look at Pac face after his last fight and just imagine it was "Money". Pac people are scared of Shane but the so call coward took the fight and won.

When all those wild punches fall off Money gloves and he is leaving himself open to counter punches the fight may go the distance but you will see a very tenative Pac in the later rounds.

[grunt]

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Dude you seriously need to take off your hate goggles for a bit. You're saying Floyd has no chin because he took someone's best shot flush and his knee buckled? Not he got knocked down, his knee buckled. If he had no chin, the fight would have been over after that shot, period. I knew it was a matter of time before the haters would come out in force discounting that Shane fight and Shane himself after spending the months leading up to it talking about Floyd "finally stepping up to a challenge" or "Getting prepared to get owned by Mosley." I guess you get credit though since I don't recall seeing you posting around here in the boxing section until now.

As for this being an easy fight, I personally don't think it will, but I certainly wouldn't be surprised if it was. Floyd and crew know how to gameplan and Pacquiao's fight against Clottey showed all you need to know from him. If Floyd really wanted to, he could just go into shell mode like Clottey early on which would throw Pacquiao off as he'd be expecting Floyd to be working the counterpunching game. See unlike most people, Floyd doesn't care about scoring KOs and he can wait out Manny's barrages of low percentage punches, running up his own accuracy points here and there along the way. Just like in the Clottey fight, Pac will get frustrated cause he wants the KOs and he'll get sloppy (moreso than usual) and that's when Floyd will take advantage and get into full counterpunch mode. I can definitely see that happening.

Easy fight.. Pac too wild for someone as skilled as Floyd. Just too many openings and Floyd is heavy handed. This fight has never been a good match up for Pac.

[King_B_Mack]

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Easy fight.. Pac too wild for someone as skilled as Floyd. Just too many openings and Floyd is heavy handed. This fight has never been a good match up for Pac.

You may be right, like I said I wouldn't be surprised if it was a cake walk for May. I know for sure it won't be as easy as Pac fans have convinced themselves it will be for Manny. IF he wins and that's a huge IF, he's gonna definitely work for it. Let some of these guys tell it, it's going to be a first round knockout for Manny cause they think he has more power than Shane....yeah ok.

[Relentless]

Re: Pacquio Agrees to Mayweathers Blood Testing Demands

You may be right, like I said I wouldn't be surprised if it was a cake walk for May. I know for sure it won't be as easy as Pac fans have convinced themselves it will be for Manny. IF he wins and that's a huge IF, he's gonna definitely work for it. Let some of these guys tell it, it's going to be a first round knockout for Manny cause they think he has more power than Shane....yeah ok.

lol..true.. true

[Money99]

Re: Pacquio Agrees to Mayweathers Blood Testing Demands

It's very simple a good defensive fighter will beat a good offensive fighter. PBF is bigger, longer reach, stronger, and quicker. He will block and counter Pac and by the later rounds Pac will be discouraged to throw punches.

That's very sound reasoning. The biggest 'x' factor in that, however, is that Manny's a southpaw.
Floyd's never looked good against lefties and he's never faced one as talented or powerful as Manny.

You may be right, like I said I wouldn't be surprised if it was a cake walk for May. I know for sure it won't be as easy as Pac fans have convinced themselves it will be for Manny. IF he wins and that's a huge IF, he's gonna definitely work for it. Let some of these guys tell it, it's going to be a first round knockout for Manny cause they think he has more power than Shane....yeah ok.

Agreed. If Pac wins, I think it's still a war and he needs 9-12 rounds to really put him away.
If Mayweather wins, it'll most likely be a clinic where Pac is left swinging at air most of the night.

[Illustrator76]

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Dude you seriously need to take off your hate goggles for a bit. You're saying Floyd has no chin because he took someone's best shot flush and his knee buckled? Not he got knocked down, his knee buckled. If he had no chin, the fight would have been over after that shot, period. I knew it was a matter of time before the haters would come out in force discounting that Shane fight and Shane himself after spending the months leading up to it talking about Floyd "finally stepping up to a challenge" or "Getting prepared to get owned by Mosley." I guess you get credit though since I don't recall seeing you posting around here in the boxing section until now.

As for this being an easy fight, I personally don't think it will, but I certainly wouldn't be surprised if it was. Floyd and crew know how to gameplan and Pacquiao's fight against Clottey showed all you need to know from him. If Floyd really wanted to, he could just go into shell mode like Clottey early on which would throw Pacquiao off as he'd be expecting Floyd to be working the counterpunching game. See unlike most people, Floyd doesn't care about scoring KOs and he can wait out Manny's barrages of low percentage punches, running up his own accuracy points here and there along the way. Just like in the Clottey fight, Pac will get frustrated cause he wants the KOs and he'll get sloppy (moreso than usual) and that's when Floyd will take advantage and get into full counterpunch mode. I can definitely see that happening.

Dude, you need to read the whole thread before accusing someone of hating. I was actually defending Floyd in a previous post saying that it wasn't his fault that Mosley gassed 2 rounds in to the fight and gave up and that I still gave him credit for stepping up to the fight. I am not a Mayweather fan, but never ONCE did I deny his talent or ability, only his heart which he has shown to have little of when choosing opponents. I do not fault Mayweather for being a defensive fighter, I only said the truth and that is that he doesn't have a great chin, and his knees did more than buckle in that fight, he was HURT and if Mosley wouldn't have gassed, Floyd would have gone down.

You may be right, like I said I wouldn't be surprised if it was a cake walk for May. I know for sure it won't be as easy as Pac fans have convinced themselves it will be for Manny. IF he wins and that's a huge IF, he's gonna definitely work for it. Let some of these guys tell it, it's going to be a first round knockout for Manny cause they think he has more power than Shane....yeah ok.

I never said that, only that it will NOT be an easy fight for Floyd and I think Manny will beat him. Floyd probably does too, that's why the purse will be the next hurdle as to why they don't fight.

Sorry dude, I in no way, shape or form see this being an easy fight for Mayweather. Period.

[King_B_Mack]

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Dude, you need to read the whole thread before accusing someone of hating. I was actually defending Floyd in a previous post saying that it wasn't his fault that Mosley gassed 2 rounds in to the fight and that I still gave him credit for stepping up to the fight. I am not a Mayweather fan, but never ONCE did I deny his talent or ability, only his heart which he has shown to have little of when choosing opponents. I do not fault Mayweather for being a defensive fighter, I only said the truth and that is that he doesn't have a great chin, and his knees did more than buckle in that fight, he was HURT and if Mosley wouldn't have gassed, Floyd would have gone down.



I never said that, only that it will NOT be an easy fight for Floyd and I think Manny will beat him. Floyd probably does too, that's why the purse will be the next hurdle as to why they don't fight.

Sorry dude, I in no way, shape or form see this being an easy fight for Mayweather. Period.

How are you defending Floyd by taking away from his win by giving the excuse that Mosley was gassed. Yeah, Floyd won, but because Mosley was gassed, get outta here with that backhanded comment. Just about every one of your posts in here has featured you calling Floyd a coward and yadda yadda yadda, placing blame on the fight with Pacquiao on him. I can read just fine.

And please tell me how more than Floyd's knee buckling happened? Of course he was hurt, getting jaw jacked hurts. He took Mosley's best shot full on and his knee buckled, he didn't go down, he didn't fall, he didn't just barely beat a ten count. By your logic, every boxer ever has no chin cause they were hurt by taking someone with power's best punch. How's it truth that he doesn't have a great chin btw? How many times has Floyd been knocked out in his career? How many times has he been knocked down for that matter? How you can determine someone's chin without that information I'll happily be waiting to find out.

[Pared]

Re: Pacquio Agrees to Mayweathers Blood Testing Demands

Guys, tone it down a few notches. Everyone.

No reason for it get this way. It's a simple discussion.

And ease up on the comparisons. They are taking the thread off topic.

[Illustrator76]

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How are you defending Floyd by taking away from his win by giving the excuse that Mosley was gassed. Yeah, Floyd won, but because Mosley was gassed, get outta here with that backhanded comment. Just about every one of your posts in here has featured you calling Floyd a coward and yadda yadda yadda, placing blame on the fight with Pacquiao on him. I can read just fine.

And please tell me how more than Floyd's knee buckling happened? Of course he was hurt, getting jaw jacked hurts. He took Mosley's best shot full on and his knee buckled, he didn't go down, he didn't fall, he didn't just barely beat a ten count. By your logic, every boxer ever has no chin cause they were hurt by taking someone with power's best punch. How's it truth that he doesn't have a great chin btw? How many times has Floyd been knocked out in his career? How many times has he been knocked down for that matter? How you can determine someone's chin without that information I'll happily be waiting to find out.

See this is exactly what makes me mad about this forum. It's OK that we disagree, that's fine, but you are intentionally taking every comment that I make and trying to make it a negative. How did I take away from Floyds win? How? I gave him credit for stepping up and fighting some real comp and said it was not Floyd's fault that Mosley gassed, because some people were saying Floyd won ONLY because Mosley gassed. Floyd did what he was supposed to do. I don't know how else I can say that I gave him some credit for fighting Mosley. And yes, I say Mayweather is a coward because he talks the most garbage of any boxer out there, personally insults people left and right, generally acts like a you-know-what and then refuses to fight anyone who could actually challenge him.

Good god man, some people just look to make an issue out of anything someone says. All the Mayweather fans act like they are the experts and all of the doubters are haters. So I guess half of the boxing community are haters too because I hear/read about the weak level of Floyd's competition (notice, I didn't say TALENT) all of the time there too. Are people not entitled to an opinion anymore without being labeled a ***** or something?

[King_B_Mack]

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Guys, tone it down a few notches. Everyone.

No reason for it get this way. It's a simple discussion.

And ease up on the comparisons. They are taking the thread off topic.

You got it.

See this is exactly what makes me mad about this forum. It's OK that we disagree, that's fine, but you are intentionally taking every comment that I make and trying to make it a negative. How did I take away from Floyds win? How? I gave him credit for stepping up and fighting some real comp and said it was not Floyd's fault that Mosley gassed, because some people were saying Floyd won ONLY because Mosley gassed. Floyd did what he was supposed to do. I don't know how else I can say that I gave him some credit for fighting Mosley. And yes, I say Mayweather is a coward because he talks the most garbage of any boxer out there, personally insults people left and right, generally acts like a you-know-what and then refuses to fight anyone who could actually challenge him.

Good god man, some people just look to make an issue out of anything someone says. All the Mayweather fans act like they are the experts and all of the doubters are haters. So I guess half of the boxing community are haters too because I hear/read about the weak level of Floyd's competition (notice, I didn't say TALENT) all of the time there too. Are people not entitled to an opinion anymore without being labeled a ***** or something?

In my opinion you saying you defended Floyd doesn't really count for much cause you have said about two or three times now that Floyd has no chin and Pacquiao will knock him out unlike Mosley because he got gassed. How is that giving Floyd credit for his win by you coming back and saying when the situation calls for it that he did what he had to do and it's not his fault that Shane got gassed? You say you're giving him credit with comments like that and then turning around and saying that he'd have gotten knocked out if Shane didn't get gassed. I'm not taking your comments and doing anything to them, this is what you're saying. We've got our warning though, so I'm not trying to say anything to keep harping on this.

As for the last part and labeling you a *****, you just said there that you HEARD/READ about the level of Floyd's competition. Most people that talk all that noise leave out details of all those fights and circumstances on why certain fights may not have happened but then trumpet people like Pacquiao and manage to leave out his questionable fight taking and opponents. Sorry if I'm wrong on the label there, but that generally is the flag for me when I see people dissing Floyd every chance they get and then praising Pacquiao as some fearless hero to all of boxing.

[Illustrator76]

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You got it.



In my opinion you saying you defended Floyd doesn't really count for much cause you have said about two or three times now that Floyd has no chin and Pacquiao will knock him out unlike Mosley because he got gassed. How is that giving Floyd credit for his win by you coming back and saying when the situation calls for it that he did what he had to do and it's not his fault that Shane got gassed? You say you're giving him credit with comments like that and then turning around and saying that he'd have gotten knocked out if Shane didn't get gassed. I'm not taking your comments and doing anything to them, this is what you're saying. We've got our warning though, so I'm not trying to say anything to keep harping on this.

As for the last part and labeling you a *****, you just said there that you HEARD/READ about the level of Floyd's competition. Most people that talk all that noise leave out details of all those fights and circumstances on why certain fights may not have happened but then trumpet people like Pacquiao and manage to leave out his questionable fight taking and opponents. Sorry if I'm wrong on the label there, but that generally is the flag for me when I see people dissing Floyd every chance they get and then praising Pacquiao as some fearless hero to all of boxing.

Honestly, I don't see any point in continuing this with you. You are taking my comments and just straight up making them to what you want them to be, AND putting words in my mouth. I NEVER trumpeted Manny as a hero to all of boxing and I NEVER said he'd knock Floyd out, but I did say that Manny would beat Floyd. You simply made that up. I shouldn't even have to explain what I meant about some people in boxing ECHOING my feelings about Floyds level of competition (or vice versa and me echoing their feelings), not simply that I read it in some book. I'm not going to argue with you anymore.

At least when grunt and I were discussing the subject, he stuck strictly to the facts of my comments and then offered his opinion on the how the fight would go and vice versa. You are telling me what I am, what I'm thinking and then flat out putting words in my mouth based off of your assumptions or "opinion". I don't have time for that.

[King_B_Mack]

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Honestly, I don't see any point in continuing this with you. You are taking my comments and just straight up making them to what you want them to be, AND putting words in my mouth. I NEVER trumpeted Manny as a hero to all of boxing and I NEVER said he'd knock Floyd out, but I did say that Manny would beat Floyd. You simply made that up.

I can understand some of your points, but to say that this is an easy fight for Floyd is crazy talk man. Floyd has no chin...period, and Manny ain't Mosley. If Floyd almost folded when Mosley hit him (but couldn't sustain it) what do you think is going to happen when Manny hits Floyd and keeps going? Also, Manny isn't Chavez, Manny will throw punches until he can't throw them anymore. Mayweather is scared to fight Manny for a reason, especially because I don't think Floyd can hurt Manny, hit him? Yes, hurt him? I doubt it. You can't say the same thing in reverse can you?

I suppose what we think is going to happen is Manny is going to break out the accoustic guitar and flowers and sing peace songs with Floyd at that point? But I made up you talking about Manny knocking out Floyd?

You are beyond hope if you really believe this is an easy fight for Mayweather. If it's such an easy fight, then why is Mayweather finding every reason (including retirement) to NOT fight Manny? Floyd doesn't have a chin, he has really good defense (I will give him that) and he fights people who are in no danger of hitting him, let alone hurting him. When he did fight someone who could hurt him, you saw what happened, he almost went down in the 2nd round off of one or two punches. If Shane didn't give up after not getting an instant KO, then things may have been different. Manny has power, speed, stamina and he doesn't give up. Floyd will be in trouble....period........if he mans up and takes the fight.

'Nuff said. I'm with you though, this discussion between us doesn't need to continue.

[Illustrator76]

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I suppose what we think is going to happen is Manny is going to break out the accoustic guitar and flowers and sing peace songs with Floyd at that point? But I made up you talking about Manny knocking out Floyd?



'Nuff said. I'm with you though, this discussion between us doesn't need to continue.

Notice in the third quote I said Floyd almost went DOWN, not out, and again, I never flat out said Floyd's gonna get knocked OUT by Manny (or that Manny was some great hero to boxing, I don't see a quote for that anywhere), but I did say that he'd be in trouble if Manny kept coming at him because Manny has power and won't gas like Mosley did. That could easily mean multiple KNOCKDOWNS for Manny. I could respond further to those quotes, but I'll let you have the last word. Discussion over with.

[Dame]

Re: Pacquio Agrees to Mayweathers Blood Testing Demands

Somebody explain to me why Mayweather has a weak chin? he took a great punch on the chin and didnt fall ain't that the sign of a great chin? Didnt pac lose before and has been knowcked down wouldnt he too be considered to have a weak chin?(I dont think he do)

I like Pac i think he's great buy i think Mayweather is greater and will win this fight only because all of PAC strenghts compliments Mayweather strenghts. I don really know Myaweather weakness because he has never been exposed and Pac weaknesses might not be there no more because they havent been exposed in awhile.( he may have fixed them)

I dont think mayweather is ducking this fight all it was agreed to not discuss this fight in the media and I think thats what he is doing and it was reported that his plan B was to fight martinez(sp?)-could be false who knows