Mayweather-Ortiz Sept 16th

[Complex]

Re: Mayweather-Ortiz Sept 16th

I dont understand why some people dont grasp the fact that its a FIGHT and when the ref brings them back to fight then fight not hug again for the 3rd time and ask Mayweather out to dinner. He should have known that especially after over 30 professional fights.

Especially when its YOUR title on the line.

[Kashanova]

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great card last night, i enjoyed all the fight.

to get in on the pac vs floyd matchup, floyd would win on defense alone, this guy is an amazing defensive boxer

[BRxSKINSx]

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I'm not a boxing fan or anything, so I can't say Ortiz is a dirty fighter....He may have attempted, actually connected on a dirty move....helluva headbutt....that move wouldve made WWE fans/superstars proud....The thing is, this is boxing..... I think he got what deserved when Floyd hit him with that 2 piece combo.....Floyd shouldve added a biscuit with it....Floyd should give him a rematch.... Maybe this time Ortiz will be ready to SLUG IT OUT, INSTEAD OF TRYING TO HUG IT OUT.....

[Nakeja71]

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Ortiz was going to lose anyway.Merchant gutting cussed out. Beautiful. I loved it.

[Nakeja71]

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If Mayweather was WHITE, people wouldn't say it was a CHEAP SHOT.

White boxer? LOL

[Nakeja71]

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On another note, Larry Merchant is an excellent interviewer. He will probably go down as one of the all time greats for his candid, straightforward approach. A lot of people don't realize that as a reporter your goal is to get to the truth. That's probably why Mayweather doesn't like him.

Merchant was attempting to get Floyd to agree with HIS viewpoint. Floyd did not fall for the devils trick and cussed him out. It was beautiful . Floyd was right . I wish he would have punched him as well.

[Nakeja71]

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PBF did what he did because he knew if the fight started again, he'd get knocked out.

It's the same reason why he's avoiding Pacquaio.

Did you watch any of the fight? Floyd was dominating the fight. Pacquaio want to fight? Take the test.

[Nakeja71]

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It would have been respectful to not let loose on a man that you can clearly see does not have his guard up because he doesnt think you are fighting.

Its Boxing. Not golf , Skippy.

[blackceasar]

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Here's the deal. Ortiz probably would have lost the fight by decision (not even a close one) at the end of 12 Rounds. Yes he showed promise in the first couple of rounds but so did Oscar and Shane Mosley, two Hall of Fame fighters that Ortiz only wishes one day he can be mentioned in the same sentence with.

Maywether's defense is something of legend, and when you couple it with his speed and counter punching ablity (even though he doesnt hit that hard) and throw in how he is as a person with his personality it's more than enough to frustrate most people that get into the ring with him. So let's move on to who's fault it is that Ortiz lost...

It's Ortiz' fault. look people, that butt was BLATANT. It wasnt accidental, or was it one of those that older smarter more seasoned boxers deliberately do but know when to do it so at best its "questionable" that it was deliberate. Ortiz did nothing but show his youth and lack of real ring experience by 1. hitting him with such a blatant butt (which he could have easily been DQ'ed for) and then AFTER the fact trying to hug it out with a man in the ring who is all about business when that bell goes off, forget how he acts during interviews, pre-fight and post fight.

I think the butt pissed Mayweather off. I think He would have rather have went deeper into the fight further frustrating and outclassing this kid because well, he DOES like to show off but after that butt when you look at his face right before he threw the first punch it was like he was thinking "man, you know what I'm cool.. wait.. awww hell naw!!!". I think if it had been a boxer he actually respected (Oscar, Shane, probably even Berto) then I don't think he takes that shot during the "lets hug it out" moment. But Maywether looked at Ortiz after the butt as just some punk who needed to be taught a lesson, and that's exactly what happened.

Here's the thing though, Im not even a fan of Mayweather. I want to see him shut up and finally just get in the ring and fight the fight we ALL really want to see. BUT at the end of the day, some snot nosed kid who talked just as much crap as he did pre-fight walked into the ring with a seasoned pro, a living legend and he pretty much disrespected him in the right. The head butt was like catching a co-worker in bed with your wife or g/f so he was already pissed off. The "lets hug it out" was like "dude, yes I flat out boned your wife, I admit that but cant you just forget it and be friends with me now?"

I don't care for Maywether, but people need to get off his case about this. I think he was just like "man, let me just end this BS right now so I can go home, I'm tired of dealing with this kid". So he ended it. Poor taste? sure, but without that blatant butt, I dont think Ortiz gets knocked out the way he did lol. At the end of the day, Ortiz is the one who set the ball rolling for him to get ragdolled by a Maywether right hand.

[Schisms]

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Lol! Another classless fight from two jerks. Mr. Coward won't fight the obvious fight that will prove he's the best and Ortiz is still a dumb fighter. No one actually expected Ortiz to win. This is just another BS fight in a long line of BS fights that Mr. Coward has to avoid getting his wig flipped by Mr. Pacquiao. It's actually quite funny. Mr. Coward cons these idiots out of money and we have to watch BS fights. He gets paid and we get screwed. I've heard all the arguments about this special drug test that only Manny should take. Another joke. Mr. Coward fights bums without making them take the test. Sheesh! Professional boxing is a joke and Mr. Coward is the punchline. Until this honorless circus act fights Manny Pacquiao and proves me wrong, I'll stand by what I believe. And before anyone accuses me if being a racist...I'm an African American that doesn't respect classless jerks. (Mr. Coward = Floyd Mayweather Jr.)

Promise you, you wouldn't say that to Mayweather's face, and if you were stupid enought to say it you'd be missing a few teeth, keep repping GR Pretty Boy.

[100% Texan]

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ortiz is mentally weak.

after he came to the conclusion that his gameplan won't work and he couldn't get to mayweather consistently, he went for a blatent headbutt to try to intentionally cut open mayweather. (even tried to go for a cheap shot after the headbutt"

then wants to hug and kiss a man that you just headbutted?

"yo bro, i know i just headbutted you and busted open your lip but i'm sorry bro"

wtf.

then cortez had the fighters go to neutral corners while he deducted he point, they touch gloves and ortiz continues with his "i'm sorry" routine

then cortez says "let's go"

they touch gloves AGAIN, floyd puts his guard up, ortiz goes to hug him AGAIN, leaves his guard down, then mayweather rocked him.

instead of doing the logical thing and put his guard up after the first punch, he looks at cortez as to say "are you gonna do somethin about this?"

then with his guard still down mayweather put him to sleep.

absolutely dumb thinking by ortiz. what was this dude thinking?

[Complex]

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I'm not a boxing fan or anything, so I can't say Ortiz is a dirty fighter....He may have attempted, actually connected on a dirty move....helluva headbutt....that move wouldve made WWE fans/superstars proud....The thing is, this is boxing..... I think he got what deserved when Floyd hit him with that 2 piece combo.....Floyd shouldve added a biscuit with it....Floyd should give him a rematch.... Maybe this time Ortiz will be ready to SLUG IT OUT, INSTEAD OF TRYING TO HUG IT OUT.....

No need for a rematch at this point. Pac or nothing right now.

[marq]

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What is funny about this whole situation is this: guys in here are blaming the ref, but he restarted the fight. Also, Ortiz's camp WANTED Joe Cortez. They WANTED him to ref this fight, now they are blaming him. And didn't something similar happen in the NFL last week? Browns-Bengals: Gradkowski snapped the ball and hit a wide open AJ Green while the Browns were slowly leaving the huddle. Was seen as a smart play.

Nothing illegal here, how many hugs and kisses did Ortiz have/need to give. That's why I posted the 49 second video. It was enough already, time to start fighting. Ortiz knows better. But the hate Floyd generates won't allow people to be objective about the situation. Was Floyd supposed to just sit there AFTER the ref restarted the fight? Just saying

[Nakeja71]

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Floyd is a joke and a disgrace to the sport of boxing. I love how Merchant totally burned him in that post fight interview! Larry stood him down. He is amazing.

Floyd nears to quit whining and complaining about how the public hates and disrespects him. He brings it on himself. He is scared to face Pacquaio and he is the most arrogant man on the planet. Gee. I wonder why no one likes you Floyd.

Floyd is scared of a dude who has been knocked out twice? Larry admitted later he probably could not beat Maywaeather. But it is no surprise. It's that built in arrogance in some of those peoples DNA . Public hates him? Depends on who you are and where you live.What you call arrogance I call confidence.

[blackceasar]

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No need for a rematch at this point. Pac or nothing right now.

Agree 100%. If the fight went the distance, split decision or majority but close and it was a good show then MAYBE. But what Ortiz did was pretty much bump himself out of the top elite welterweights for the time being. At 25 Maywether probably could have given him a rematch but at 34 a rematch with this looser is just a waste of precious time. They are in totally two different classes, if Ortiz wants his title back he needs to string together a few wins before even thinking about that.

It really is Pac or nothing right now. If Manny wins (which he should) They just need to ink a deal. Honestly if Pac was to beat Maywether I could see a PC vs Maywether II no matter how the first fight goes because the story would be Maywether attempting to avenge the one loss on his record. Then if Maywether beats pac in the 2nd fight there HAS to be a third to settle it once and for all and I think if that happened, it wouldnt matter who won the third one. Manny is ok with retiring with loosing his last fight. Floyd, if it was a third fight already would have a loss on his record so no bigger. They would end up becoming the two richest men in boxing after cashing in on three stellar and record breaking PPV's.