Mayweather-Ortiz Sept 16th

[bigeastbumrush]

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I agree with everything they said there, except Floyd didn't have is hands up as I recall, he had them down by his side, almost giving the impression like they were going to hug some more.

I wouldn't be suprised if Ortiz didn't here Cortez say "lets go" if he said it at all. Afterall, why would a ref who just called "time in" be standing there with his mouth hanging open staring off into space like he just woke up from a Wisdom Tooth Extraction.

In fact, I am positive that Ortiz din't hear him because he was looking to the ref after the sucker punch and Cortez was still standing there with his tongue hanging out. In fact the THWACK from the sucker punch startled Cortez, he looked confused for a second, Floyd hit Ortiz again and went down.....And then Cortez jumps into action.

Floyd wins this fight without the sucker punch, but Cortez's actions need to come under review. I think he needs to be sent to the glue factory.

Where?

Cortez checked with Ortiz and then signaled them to fight. What am I missing here?

Floyd didn't drop his guard and neither should have Ortiz...especially after illegally fouling someone which seems to be the last priority on everyone's minds.

Dude...how many times did you expect them to hug? Seriously?

[King_B_Mack]

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Question. If two guys are boxing and one of the guys stops because he's checking out some girl in the fourth row's rack, should the other boxer just stand there with his hands on his hips waiting for him to pay attention before slugging him?

[Basketball GURU]

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Pretty good post fight analysis..

[fistofrage]

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Where?

Cortez checked with Ortiz and then signaled them to fight. What am I missing here?

Floyd didn't drop his guard and neither should have Ortiz...especially after illegally fouling someone which seems to be the last priority on everyone's minds.

Dude...how many times did you expect them to hug? Seriously?

Only time I watched it was live and it all happened so fast, the theatre went nuts. And the camera angle live was behind Ortiz. I am looking forward to seeing the replay next Saturday.

Not sure why Ortiz kept trying to hug Mayweather. I think after the headbutt, Ortiz turned into a schoolgirl. Tee Hee Hee, Smile, Giggle, hug Floyd repeatedly. Not sure what was going on, it was like some Trading places Disney movie.

[BatsareBugs]

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By the looks of that GIF there, the bout had restarted. Ortiz just kept trying to tap gloves/hug even after they had already tapped gloves. Ortiz's fault for not being ready. I agree with bigeastbumrush, you already tapped gloves and got a "close hug", so what the heck are you doing?

I hate waiting and we've been waiting since when? 2008/2009? I'm tired of the obstacles Pacquiao and Mayweather keep bringing up that's barring the only fight the probably matters between those two. Quit wasting time with the Ortiz's/Marquez's/Margarito's of the world. Agree to a fight and get it over with.

[NINJAK2]

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Pretty good post fight analysis..

This guy is right. After finally seeing it those punches were sneakey rather than dirty and FM had all the right in the world to do what he did. It appeared that FM lulled Ortiz into a false sense of security by appearing to let Ortiz hug him again (after Cortez already gave the ok to continue fighting) then unloaded on him. Anyway Ortiz's act was way more classless than what FM did imo.

[ex carrabba fan]

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MMA might not have the world "buzzing" like Floyd gets the world buzzing, but the sport overall? There's no reason to bash boxing but if "this is the highest point its been in in a long time" I shudder to think what will happen after Floyd/Pac face off.

In ten years I would lean towards MMA being the go to combat sport over boxing. And I wouldn't be surprised if boxing was in the gutter by then.

[bigeastbumrush]

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MMA might not have the world "buzzing" like Floyd gets the world buzzing, but the sport overall? There's no reason to bash boxing but if "this is the highest point its been in in a long time" I shudder to think what will happen after Floyd/Pac face off.

In ten years I would lean towards MMA being the go to combat sport over boxing. And I wouldn't be surprised if boxing was in the gutter by then.

And MMA has what to do with the boxing match this past Saturday night?????

[ex carrabba fan]

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And MMA has what to do with the boxing match this past Saturday night?????

I was responding to quotes about a discussion that happened a few pages back.

The overall discussion centers around if boxing is doing great, good, average or bad. MMA comes into play as they were discussing other combat sports.

[Bumi]

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MMA might not have the world "buzzing" like Floyd gets the world buzzing, but the sport overall? There's no reason to bash boxing but if "this is the highest point its been in in a long time" I shudder to think what will happen after Floyd/Pac face off.

In ten years I would lean towards MMA being the go to combat sport over boxing. And I wouldn't be surprised if boxing was in the gutter by then.

I don't really want to get the thread off track, so I'll just say this. Floyd, by his lonesome makes more money, from a single fight, than every UFC/MMA fighter combined.

Boxing is alive and well. It's death and demise has been greatly exaggerated.(imo) When Floyd rides off into the sunset, someone will rise and take his place. Just as he took the place of RJJ, who took the place of SRL, who took the place of Ali. So on and so forth.

Just watch when the PPV numbers come out. I'm hearing it was a huge success in the UK.(Floyd is loved in the UK, for some reason?)

[Po Pimp]

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MMA might not have the world "buzzing" like Floyd gets the world buzzing, but the sport overall? There's no reason to bash boxing but if "this is the highest point its been in in a long time" I shudder to think what will happen after Floyd/Pac face off.

In ten years I would lean towards MMA being the go to combat sport over boxing. And I wouldn't be surprised if boxing was in the gutter by then.

Boxing will NEVER die! When was the last time there wasn't a marquee fighter in boxing? I'll wait...

[100% Texan]

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Don't fall for Dana White and Joe Rogans's BS MMA propoganda.

Boxing is fine.

Boxing always reloads in talent.

MMA fanboys always talk about "What happens when Pacquiao retires?"

A new up and comer will arise. Pacquiao was unknown to casual boxing fans until 2009.

Lots of good fighters out there,

Gary Russell Jr.
Yuriorkis Gamboa
Nonito Donaire
Andre Ward

etc.

Not to mention the Olympics breeds Boxing stars.

Don't fall for the hype.

[ex carrabba fan]

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Floyd is Floyd though, that's why I asked about the sport overall. I am honestly curious. Floyd will always be a money maker, no doubt about it.

Hopefully there are some future Floyd's out there, I would love to see a highlight of them right now. Thank you Texan for listing some fighters.

Po Pimp, I don't think it will ever "die" but I wouldn't be surprised if it wasn't doing so great a decade from now. Seems like too many shadies involved behind the scenes or just outright jerkoffs like Bob Arum.

[100% Texan]

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Seems like too many shadies involved behind the scenes or just outright jerkoffs like Bob Arum.

totally agree, that scumbag needs to leave this sport.

[aholbert32]

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I don't really want to get the thread off track, so I'll just say this. Floyd, by his lonesome makes more money, from a single fight, than every UFC/MMA fighter combined.

Boxing is alive and well. It's death and demise has been greatly exaggerated.(imo) When Floyd rides off into the sunset, someone will rise and take his place. Just as he took the place of RJJ, who took the place of SRL, who took the place of Ali. So on and so forth.

Just watch when the PPV numbers come out. I'm hearing it was a huge success in the UK.(Floyd is loved in the UK, for some reason?)

One fighter doesn't make a sport. Two fighters don't either. Pac and Floyd are huge draws but the fact that they draw significant money doesn't mean the sport is healthy. MMA has 4 guys right now who have sold more than 1 million PPV buys (Lesnar, GSP, Rampage, Evans). Boxing has two and Boxing has the advantage of being a top sport for over 80 more years than MMA.

There has never been a span of time this long when boxing didn't know who the next great PPV guy is going to be. The depth of great boxers in the 70's, 80's and 90's kept it from collapsing. Boxing doesn't have the depth currently. Who is going to sell PPVs when Pac and Floyd are gone. Alverez? Martinez? Berto? Bradley? Most sports fans don't know who the hell those guys are.


I love both sports but you are fooling yourself if you think Boxing is as healthy as its ever been