Mayweather-Ortiz Sept 16th

[Bumi]

Re: Mayweather-Ortiz Sept 16th

When I saw Tyson bite Holyfields ear, I thought I'd seen it all in boxing.
What once was a great sport has continued to be the punch line in the sports world.
Thanks to Floyd, Boxing will continue the much soiled reputation it has deserved.
What happened the other night was a fighter disgracing the sport he grew up in, and
showing no respect to the profession that has allowed him to become a millionaire.
Low blows and head butts happen, but to sucker punch an opponent during a stop in the
fight is despicable. A life time ban would be appropriate, I've been sick of Floyd hand picking opponents for the last decade and could care less to ever see him fight again.
It even sounds like his own father is losing respect for him:

"Lil Floyd done let money go to his head, man, and when you let money rule your life, you either gotta have a rude awakening or you have to go broke. I'm not saying I want to see either one of them happen, but money is the root of all evil. ... Maybe Floyd needs a loss to come back to reality. Right now, he's undefeated and he's making of ton of money while fighting, but, I don't know, man. I never want to see my son lose because through all the bull****, he's still my son. But Lil Floyd needs some sort of reality check, whether that be in the ring or out."

And not a single mention of the illegal, malicious, dirty headbutt. Multiple ones at that. Yet, Floyd deserves to be banned from the sport for life for fighting once instructed to do so.

Good grief.

[100% Texan]

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And not a single mention of the illegal, malicious, dirty headbutt. Multiple ones at that. Yet, Floyd deserves to be banned from the sport for life for fighting once instructed to do so.

Good grief.

the blind hate clouds their judgement.

[GRUNT007]

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the blind hate clouds their judgement.

I mean this is pure hate. This clip shows the greatness of Floyd. You have a professional fighter 2 inches away loading up and can't hit him. Ortiz was trying to head butt him the whole fight. I saw Ortiz trying to use his head at every clinch. The head butts was apart of Ortiz game plan .

The hate equals massive payday.

[Coast]

Re: Mayweather-Ortiz Sept 16tha

Gotta say, Floyds shoulder rolling is just untouchable in that gif.
Ortiz is inside and yet cant land a single hit aside, I can see why he decided to throw a headbutt.

[Jukeman]

If it was a "stop in the fight" (when the ko had happen) logically the fight wouldnt have stop there unless Floyd was DQed...

Just saying lol


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[Po Pimp]

Re: Mayweather-Ortiz Sept 16th

People just don't appreciate the defensive genius of Mayweather. One of the funniest comments I read was that "Morales and Cano was a real fight!" Yeah, two guys with no defense bloodied up represents the sweet science..LMAO.

Regardless of whether you felt Mayweather committed a sucka move, did Ortiz not have it coming? Like Floyd said "what goes around, comes around." And yes, I cheered when Floyd knocked him on his ***. I didn't even need to see the replay to see that he attempted a blatant headbutt in the clinch. Ortiz deserved it.

[wyrm187]

Re: Mayweather-Ortiz Sept 16th

boxing is in the toilet plain and simple. Fights like this don't help, endings like this certainly dont help, and Floyd Money Mayweather doesnt help. Hes a great boxer who could give a damn about his legacy, the sport of boxing or professionalism. The only one on his level is Manny and he wont fight him.

Was it within the rules what he did? yes but overcome the other fighters tactics and beat him up cleanly. Who the hell wants to see an ending like that when they've paid hard earned money to watch the fight. Thank God I didn't pay for this fight, boxing really is dead and this is why.

[Control-X]

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IMO, Pernell Whitaker first then FM in my book.

To get in on the FM v Pac discussion, I agree that FM wins vs MP. Due to the inferior competition MP has been facing, as is this Marquez joke of a fight, MP has gotten into some bad habits in the ring and is truly why the Top Rank/Bob Arum strategy to get him in the ring.

Clottey, Cotto, Magarito, Hatton, old DeLaHoya, old Mosely and now with Marquez, all these guys = bait to MP. Chum in a shark tank. None of them had the combo of speed and or strength to compete and they were easy work.

IMO the biggest issue in the MP vs FM debate is that MP hasn't fought enough slick fighters/FM styled fighters with that hand speed to keep him off balance and that is why it makes it hard for me to believe he will just go in the ring and KO FM like he has every other fighter.

Some people got upset when the topic of MP having not fought any African American fighters came up. It wasn't to say he's scared, but it say that he is unfamiliar with fighting against that slick style many AA fighters in his weight class have. *MP definitely has the power and speed to give FM problems, but with Floyd's speed, accuracy and defensive skills, he wins unless he tries to bang with MP, which he is too smart to do.

Okay so none of Pac's beaten opponents had the combo speed/strength, whatever. And an old scared Sugar Shane Mosley aint a slick AA fighter. FM has that combo speed and strength,etc and is one slick AA fighter.
But the question is will FM really fight MP? LOL

I am not putting the full blame on Mayweather, but to win when a guy is unguarded trying to show you respect and apologize is a cheap way to win and does not show you are a real champion.

Floyd is just being Floyd MONEY Mayweather. I love him this way when he's in the ring. It's all business and nothing personal, whether you as a fan like it or not.

Yes, it's possible to hate someone that much. Floyd may very well be the biggest villain to ever participate in professional athletics.

Even when he does absolutely nothing wrong, after being hit with one of the most vicious headbutts ever seen in a title fight, he's the villain, punk, cheater, etc.

It's pathetic.

Floyd choose to be the bad guy. He prefers to be the villain. What do you expect?

great card last night, i enjoyed all the fight.

to get in on the pac vs floyd matchup, floyd would win on defense alone, this guy is an amazing defensive boxer

On offense, he'll lose though.

No need for a rematch at this point. Pac or nothing right now.

Floyd will fight anybody but not Pac.

It really is Pac or nothing right now. If Manny wins (which he should) They just need to ink a deal. Honestly if Pac was to beat Maywether I could see a PC vs Maywether II no matter how the first fight goes because the story would be Maywether attempting to avenge the one loss on his record. Then if Maywether beats pac in the 2nd fight there HAS to be a third to settle it once and for all and I think if that happened, it wouldnt matter who won the third one. Manny is ok with retiring with loosing his last fight. Floyd, if it was a third fight already would have a loss on his record so no bigger. They would end up becoming the two richest men in boxing after cashing in on three stellar and record breaking PPV's.

Too good to be true. Sadly it will remain a "Dream Match" as Floyd won't fight Manny.

I want Floyd to fight Khan next. I think that's a tougher fight at this point.

This is a believable fight because Floyd can beat Khan. Ask Floyd and he will agree to fight Khan next. Believe me.

Floyd and Pac have gotta have this fight man. I want to see the world explode with excuses and disses when Floyd wins this fight man.

Let the world say what they wanna say now not just against Floyd but Pac as well. The fight can't happen. Floyd doesn't even want to be interviewed about Pac. Floyd won't fight Pac.

And this is why it will be the biggest ppv boxing event ever, Everyone wants to see Floyd Lose and he wont, he will beat Pac to submission....

Agreed (bolded). But you can't see Floyd lose and/or you can't see him beat Pac to submission because again, Floyd won't fight Pac.

I'd said it in Floyd's face and I say it with a smirk on my face.

[Kashanova]

Re: Mayweather-Ortiz Sept 16th

On offense, he'll lose though.

Negative, Counter Punching is a form of offense and Mayweather is the best there is at that...

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Re: Mayweather-Ortiz Sept 16th

When I saw Tyson bite Holyfields ear, I thought I'd seen it all in boxing.
What once was a great sport has continued to be the punch line in the sports world.
Thanks to Floyd, Boxing will continue the much soiled reputation it has deserved.
What happened the other night was a fighter disgracing the sport he grew up in, and
showing no respect to the profession that has allowed him to become a millionaire.
Low blows and head butts happen, but to sucker punch an opponent during a stop in the
fight is despicable. A life time ban would be appropriate, I've been sick of Floyd hand picking opponents for the last decade and could care less to ever see him fight again.
It even sounds like his own father is losing respect for him:

"Lil Floyd done let money go to his head, man, and when you let money rule your life, you either gotta have a rude awakening or you have to go broke. I'm not saying I want to see either one of them happen, but money is the root of all evil. ... Maybe Floyd needs a loss to come back to reality. Right now, he's undefeated and he's making of ton of money while fighting, but, I don't know, man. I never want to see my son lose because through all the bull****, he's still my son. But Lil Floyd needs some sort of reality check, whether that be in the ring or out."

I'd like to know where you got this from, because not only are you quoting something incorrectly, but money is not the root of all evil... do you even believe the stuff you're typing on here

[fistofrage]

Re: Mayweather-Ortiz Sept 16th

Here's my take on the fight.....

I am no Floyd fan, but I really don't care that he basically sucker punched Ortiz after being head butted.

Floyd has nice teeth and Ortiz looked like he wanted to knock them out with his head. I would have cold cocked Ortiz too.

I was watching the fight which was in a Theatre in Grand Rapids. We always come out in droves for Floyd fights and the place goes nuts when he says he hails from Grand Rapids, Michigan. There were quite a few Ortiz fans or Floyd Haters in the crowd. Its awesome to watch the fights in full HD on a 100 foot screen.

Anyway, most people in there had been drinking during the day, myself included, but none of us really knew that the fight had started again. What was Cortez doing? I guess he said fight, but it was odd that he wouldn't be paying attention.

And what happened to Ortiz? When Floyd suckered him it seemed to have the same effect as a hit of Xtacy. He's all smiles, giggling like a school girl.

Ortiz doesn't have the heart or killer instinct to be a contender again. All he was concerned about was hugging and kissing Floyd.

I guess I don't understand how you could have enough rage built up to launch a headbutt like that and then 2 seconds later want to make out and hug Floyd.

Something is loopy in Ortiz's head. Hopefully he gets it sorted out, but I doubt he'll be a serious contender again.

Paid $17 to watch it in the theatre. Thought the undercards were very entertaining. The PPV as a whole was well worth the price.

[ty5oke]

Re: Mayweather-Ortiz Sept 16th

I thought the smiles and giggles form Ortiz were his way of dealing with the embarrassment.

[NINJAK2]

Re: Mayweather-Ortiz Sept 16th

the blind hate clouds their judgement.

Wow. That is dispicable!! I did not get to see the fight but Ortiz deserved what happend to him after seeing that! Floyd is imo the best defensive fighter since Roy Jones Jr.(in his prime). The guy despite his attitude is too good and I really don't think Pac has much of a chance against him even if the fight did happen.

[DaveDQ]

Re: Mayweather-Ortiz Sept 16th

Exactly! Ortiz didn't have a chance after the first right hand from Floyd. Another question for the Ortiz lovers, why didn't he get up? The answer is he knew he lost the fight before the headbutt that's why he reacted as such


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That's a question I had too. Was he really knocked out there? I think it was pretty obvious that frustration was setting in. He was not able to hit Mayweather. Even when he had him against the ropes, Mayweather was too elusive. That headbutt was frustration motivated and shows how much of a man Ortiz....isn't. And when he got knocked down I think he decided to give up.

[bigeastbumrush]

Re: Mayweather-Ortiz Sept 16th

Another reason I'm glad Floyd called out Merchant is the uncalled for bias in every HBO fight from him and Lampley.

Lampley was going nuts when Ortiz was throwing haymakers and missing and I'm sitting there like- what fight are you watching?

Ortiz didn't land a thing and Lampley was having an orgasm on the mic.

You could just see the line of questioning coming from Merchant. Long overdue since Floyd called him out. I think he's had run-ins before in the ring with James Toney too.