Mayweather-Ortiz Sept 16th

[bigeastbumrush]

Re: Mayweather-Ortiz Sept 16th

Mayweather Post-Fight Press Conference:

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[ex carrabba fan]

Re: Mayweather-Ortiz Sept 16th

Example 27 as to why I wouldn't care an ounce if the guy retired today.

I love the guy as a boxer, and is probably one of the best to do it, but he makes it difficult for me to like him. It takes a lot for me to let an athlete's attitude/persona affect how I see him as an entertainer.

Dude may get money and handle his own fights, but no matter what he says he's still ignorant as **** to me. Just because you got money and you can do some business doesn't make you intelligent. Definitely not refined in the least and I don't give a damn how much charity you do for the community. You handle yourself like a spoiled buffoon, cursing up a storm whenever a mic is put in your face. Whether that's a persona or not, I wouldn't care if you went away today and never fought Pac. I'm sure a lot of others feel the same way but I don't really care regardless.

[LingeringRegime]

Re: Mayweather-Ortiz Sept 16th

Not to mention that he is a bigot. Saying all those ignorant things about Manny a while back. That type of **** is indefensible.

Seems like everyone has forgot about that.

[ex carrabba fan]

Re: Mayweather-Ortiz Sept 16th

So true. That was pretty much the point of no return for me. Can't get behind an *** clown like that.

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[fistofrage]

Re: Mayweather-Ortiz Sept 16th

Floyd's upbringing leaves alot to be desired. His main issue is that he's always looking for his Daddy's approval and he's never going to get it. Sometimes Floyd acts like a lost little kid. I think he's right when he says he has his Mom's heart. He has just never had the guidance on how to conduct himself in a way that would maximumize his public perception.

He's done some good things, but he's done alot of things that just make you shake your head. I can understand why people think he's a clown. I can understand why some people say Floyd does alot of good things.

Personally, I have a feeling that he's going to end up broke and empty.

Everyone gets mad that Floyd won't fight Manny. Floyd's prized possession to him is his unblemished record. Its not about money or fame or anything else. As soon as he loses his dad will tell him how he knew he would fail. That's why Floyd is so cautious about who and when he fights. As soon as he sees Manny in a decline, he'll take the fight.

[bigeastbumrush]

Re: Mayweather-Ortiz Sept 16th

Floyd's upbringing leaves alot to be desired. His main issue is that he's always looking for his Daddy's approval and he's never going to get it. Sometimes Floyd acts like a lost little kid. I think he's right when he says he has his Mom's heart. He has just never had the guidance on how to conduct himself in a way that would maximumize his public perception.

He's done some good things, but he's done alot of things that just make you shake your head. I can understand why people think he's a clown. I can understand why some people say Floyd does alot of good things.

Personally, I have a feeling that he's going to end up broke and empty.

Everyone gets mad that Floyd won't fight Manny. Floyd's prized possession to him is his unblemished record. Its not about money or fame or anything else. As soon as he loses his dad will tell him how he knew he would fail. That's why Floyd is so cautious about who and when he fights. As soon as he sees Manny in a decline, he'll take the fight.

As soon as Pac takes the same test that Floyd, Ortiz and Mosely have taken, we'll have the fight.

The same way you say that, I will say: as soon as Pac is ready for his last payday, Pac will take the fight. And sail back to the Philippines on a yacht filled with $100s.

[fistofrage]

Re: Mayweather-Ortiz Sept 16th

As soon as Pac takes the same test that Floyd, Ortiz and Mosely have taken, we'll have the fight.

The same way you say that, I will say: as soon as Pac is ready for his last payday, Pac will take the fight. And sail back to the Philippines on a yacht filled with $100s.

I don't care how they get it done, they just both need to fight while they are still considered to be in their prime. That window is closing fast. If one of them slips up against one of these hand picked fighters, that window slams shut.

[Po Pimp]

Re: Mayweather-Ortiz Sept 16th

I don't think thats true. I'm 33 so my boxing prime was the 90's. From 90-200, you had Lewis, Tyson, Bowe, Holyfield as HW elite. You had solid fighters like Douglas, Bruno and Ruddock in the same division. Thats just the HW division.

Thats not even counting Jones Jr., Hopkins, Oscar, Hamed, Camacho, Barrera and Morales. I dont see that depth now a days.

Like I said, it all goes in cycles. When the heavyweight division was strong, the other weight classes were weak. Also, before the emergence of guys like Tyson, Holyfield and Lewis, you had guys like Pinklon Thomas, Michael Dokes and Trevor Berbick.

There are plenty of exciting and dynamic fighters in pretty much every division except heavyweight nowadays. Conversely, I want you to name some of the fighters in other divisions back when the heavyweight division had talent. The talent pool was NOT that deep.

[Po Pimp]

Re: Mayweather-Ortiz Sept 16th

Floyd's upbringing leaves alot to be desired. His main issue is that he's always looking for his Daddy's approval and he's never going to get it. Sometimes Floyd acts like a lost little kid. I think he's right when he says he has his Mom's heart. He has just never had the guidance on how to conduct himself in a way that would maximumize his public perception.

He's done some good things, but he's done alot of things that just make you shake your head. I can understand why people think he's a clown. I can understand why some people say Floyd does alot of good things.

Personally, I have a feeling that he's going to end up broke and empty.

Everyone gets mad that Floyd won't fight Manny. Floyd's prized possession to him is his unblemished record. Its not about money or fame or anything else. As soon as he loses his dad will tell him how he knew he would fail. That's why Floyd is so cautious about who and when he fights. As soon as he sees Manny in a decline, he'll take the fight.

LOL...you say this as if Manny is older than Floyd.

[Control-X]

Re: Mayweather-Ortiz Sept 16th

...the bottom line is still...

Floyd won't fight Manny.

Floyd will agree to a rematch with Ortiz. Floyd will agree to fight Khan.
Floyd will fight ANYBODY. All except for one.
Floyd won't fight Manny.
That's all there is to it.
Floyd won't fight Manny.

Why?

I think everybody understands.

[Control-X]

Re: Mayweather-Ortiz Sept 16th

LOL...you say this as if Manny is older than Floyd.

Manny may be younger than Floyd by age.
Manny's lifestyle is burdensome compared to Floyd's.
Manny's an everywhere man. A boxer, a politician, actor, businessman, etc.
Stress and headaches makes him older quicker than Mayweather.

[fistofrage]

Re: Mayweather-Ortiz Sept 16th

LOL...you say this as if Manny is older than Floyd.

Floyd to me looks like he'll have these skills another 7 years. Manny, IMO, will decline much quicker, especially when his political and entertainment career take precedent over his boxing career.

[Po Pimp]

Re: Mayweather-Ortiz Sept 16th

What a lot of you fail to realize while waiting for the savior Manny to give Floyd his first L...Marquez gave Manny the fight of his life...twice! Their last fight was only about 3 years ago. I'm sure the third fight will be another brawl. Manny may come out on top because Marquez is now 38, but if Marquez could do that to Pacman, imagine what Floyd would do. Only difference is that Floyd won't take much punishment back, and Floyd is stronger and quicker than Marquez. Manny may be bigger now than he was when he last fought Marquez, but your face face will always be susceptible to getting lumped up, no matter how big you get.

[aholbert32]

Re: Mayweather-Ortiz Sept 16th

...the bottom line is still...

Floyd won't fight Manny.

Floyd will agree to a rematch with Ortiz. Floyd will agree to fight Khan.
Floyd will fight ANYBODY. All except for one.
Floyd won't fight Manny.
That's all there is to it.
Floyd won't fight Manny.

Why?

I think everybody understands.

Floyd wont fight Khan (Khan is going up to 147 yet) and a Ortiz rematch gives him significantly less money. Thats what matters to Floyd. He had the advantage of having other name fighters like Marquez and Mosley to sell his other fights. After the Ortiz debacle, he's painted into a corner. He has to fight Manny or take a significant cut in revenue.

Barring injuries, the fight will happen in May.

[GRUNT007]

Re: Mayweather-Ortiz Sept 16th

Floyd wont fight Khan (Khan is going up to 147 yet) and a Ortiz rematch gives him significantly less money. Thats what matters to Floyd. He had the advantage of having other name fighters like Marquez and Mosley to sell his other fights. After the Ortiz debacle, he's painted into a corner. He has to fight Manny or take a significant cut in revenue.

Barring injuries, the fight will happen in May.

Floyd could have a rematch with Ortiz and make more in the 2nd fight. He is a master promoter. How the heck could he walk away with 30-40 million for this fight? The casual fan think Floyd took a cheap shot and would come out to see Ortiz get another shot.

Ortiz equal the ultimate underdog and Floyd well is Floyd.