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  • sheredia
    MVP
    • Apr 2006
    • 2350

    #1966
    Re: Boxing Off-Topic

    Originally posted by pietasterp
    So, this is totally not in the flow of the conversation here, but it's a pet-peeve of mine and I thought I'd waste your collective time with it because Friday/lazy/unproductive.

    The title of this very ON-topic boxing thread is, bizarrely, "Boxing Off-Topic". Shouldn't the title of the thread be simply "Boxing", "Boxing - Other", or "General Boxing Discussion", or something to that effect? I feel like it's a bit misleading that the most substantive boxing discussion on this forum is contained within a thread denoted as "Off-Topic".

    So I'm off to complain about some slightly off-level pictures hanging on the wall of the cafeteria now. I'll just go ahead and see myself out....
    it should have been called "Boxing-Non-Specific".....lol.

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    • TripleJay_X
      Rookie
      • Apr 2016
      • 289

      #1967
      Re: Boxing Off-Topic

      so....fill will the fight happen wilder vs povetkin happen? i heard it was just 0.7 microgram or something like that, probably some remaining rest from 2015 when the drug was still legal.

      I heard Briggs vs. Dimitrenko doesn't happen on 21st may, they never had any contract. Too bad, would like to see in which shape the "Let'sGoChamp" really is

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      • JayBee74
        Hall Of Fame
        • Jul 2002
        • 22989

        #1968
        Re: Boxing Off-Topic

        Originally posted by TripleJay_X
        so....fill will the fight happen wilder vs povetkin happen?
        Maybe...eventually.

        POSTPONED

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        • sheredia
          MVP
          • Apr 2006
          • 2350

          #1969
          Re: Boxing Off-Topic

          any thoughts on Mayweather vs. McGregor? floyd seems pretty sure it will happen, just a matter of when. he looks like a kid at Christmas when talking about the fight...but we all know why. he will just run for 12 rounds and get a sure win for #50 against someone with no professional boxing under his belt. smh..easy money. however, conor is a master counter puncher. his timing is impeccable. floyd has been caught with a few counter punches in the past and been stunned. not many times, but it has happened. it's not like conor would be in any danger of getting hurt because floyd wants that easy win and definitely will not take any chances. he has much more to lose than conor, for a fight like this. conor has everything to gain and he ain't scared.

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          • TripleJay_X
            Rookie
            • Apr 2016
            • 289

            #1970
            Re: Boxing Off-Topic

            Originally posted by sheredia
            any thoughts on Mayweather vs. McGregor? floyd seems pretty sure it will happen, just a matter of when. he looks like a kid at Christmas when talking about the fight...but we all know why. he will just run for 12 rounds and get a sure win for #50 against someone with no professional boxing under his belt. smh..easy money. however, conor is a master counter puncher. his timing is impeccable. floyd has been caught with a few counter punches in the past and been stunned. not many times, but it has happened. it's not like conor would be in any danger of getting hurt because floyd wants that easy win and definitely will not take any chances. he has much more to lose than conor, for a fight like this. conor has everything to gain and he ain't scared.
            ...like in Rocky III vs Hulk Hogan? too bad, mayweather isn't rocky and mcgregor isn't hulk hogan. This one would be more like Tom & Jerry

            But both would have the probably some similarities....a scripted fight

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            • JayBee74
              Hall Of Fame
              • Jul 2002
              • 22989

              #1971
              Re: Boxing Off-Topic

              Originally posted by TripleJay_X
              ...like in Rocky III vs Hulk Hogan? too bad, mayweather isn't rocky and mcgregor isn't hulk hogan. This one would be more like Tom & Jerry

              But both would have the probably some similarities....a scripted fight
              Pretty sure Sly got the idea from Ali versus the Japanese wrestler in 1976. Murky details, but it might have been perceived by Ali's camp as an exhibition, until his opponent stated otherwise 4 days before the match. Muhammad's camp then changed the rules in such a way that Inoki (the wrestler) stayed on his back much of the fight, while kicking from that position. The fight ended in a draw.

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              • sheredia
                MVP
                • Apr 2006
                • 2350

                #1972
                Re: Boxing Off-Topic

                Originally posted by TripleJay_X
                ...like in Rocky III vs Hulk Hogan? too bad, mayweather isn't rocky and mcgregor isn't hulk hogan. This one would be more like Tom & Jerry

                But both would have the probably some similarities....a scripted fight
                tom and jerry....lol. floyd was even quoted as saying..."it would be a tough fight for me". how? tough to run for 12 rounds?

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                • sheredia
                  MVP
                  • Apr 2006
                  • 2350

                  #1973
                  Re: Boxing Off-Topic

                  Originally posted by JayBee74
                  Pretty sure Sly got the idea from Ali versus the Japanese wrestler in 1976. Murky details, but it might have been perceived by Ali's camp as an exhibition, until his opponent stated otherwise 4 days before the match. Muhammad's camp then changed the rules in such a way that Inoki (the wrestler) stayed on his back much of the fight, while kicking from that position. The fight ended in a draw.

                  this is true....read that ali's legs were messed up pretty bad after that fight too.

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                  • sheredia
                    MVP
                    • Apr 2006
                    • 2350

                    #1974
                    Re: Boxing Off-Topic

                    Originally posted by TripleJay_X
                    ...like in Rocky III vs Hulk Hogan? too bad, mayweather isn't rocky and mcgregor isn't hulk hogan. This one would be more like Tom & Jerry

                    But both would have the probably some similarities....a scripted fight

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                    • Money99
                      Hall Of Fame
                      • Sep 2002
                      • 12694

                      #1975
                      Re: Boxing Off-Topic

                      The only way a Floyd vs Connor fight would be interesting is if they fought with some kind of mix between boxing and MMA.

                      No submissions, but you're allowed to rassle a bit. And definitely allow full striking beyond just fists.

                      If it's a straight-up boxing contest, it'll be over fast.
                      McGregor was getting tagged by Diaz quite easily. What would happen if he's facing a world-class pugilist?
                      This might be the only time Floyd would record a legitimate stoppage in decades.

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                      • Money99
                        Hall Of Fame
                        • Sep 2002
                        • 12694

                        #1976
                        Re: Boxing Off-Topic

                        I've entitled this post, "Through the Looking Glass" where I discuss something along the lines of Area 51, JFK and The Perfect Wife mysteries.

                        After reading about Potvekin's failed drug test, and his use of Meldonium before it was banned, it got me thinking about Wlad Klitscho.

                        What if Wlad has been using this same drug since is embarrassing loss to Lamon Brewster? The same fight where he looked winded just getting off his stool.
                        After that fight, he suddenly had a lot more wind and didn't seem to gas nearly as quickly.

                        Fast forward to the Fury fight, and it seemed like he had no wind.
                        Was there drug testing during that bout?
                        Could it be that The Big W, was using the Big M to gain an edge? Did he stop using once it was considered illegal?

                        Some of Potvikin's victims are coming out now saying how much energy he seemed to have in the later rounds.
                        Was that due to the drug?

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                        • TripleJay_X
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                          • Apr 2016
                          • 289

                          #1977
                          Re: Boxing Off-Topic

                          Originally posted by sheredia
                          tom and jerry....lol. floyd was even quoted as saying..."it would be a tough fight for me". how? tough to run for 12 rounds?


                          and only cage-fight..... and for both, fighting with one arm and one eye.

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                          • JayBee74
                            Hall Of Fame
                            • Jul 2002
                            • 22989

                            #1978
                            Re: Boxing Off-Topic

                            Originally posted by Money99
                            Fast forward to the Fury fight, and it seemed like he had no wind.
                            Was there drug testing during that bout?
                            Could it be that The Big W, was using the Big M to gain an edge? Did he stop using once it was considered illegal?

                            Some of Potvikin's victims are coming out now saying how much energy he seemed to have in the later rounds.
                            Was that due to the drug?
                            Have no idea but in Wlad-Fury Klitschko looked like crap from the first second of the fight till the end, so I'm not sure how much endurance had to do with it.

                            Originally posted by Money99
                            The only way a Floyd vs Connor fight would be interesting is if they fought with some kind of mix between boxing and MMA.

                            No submissions, but you're allowed to rassle a bit. And definitely allow full striking beyond just fists.

                            If it's a straight-up boxing contest, it'll be over fast.
                            McGregor was getting tagged by Diaz quite easily. What would happen if he's facing a world-class pugilist?
                            This might be the only time Floyd would record a legitimate stoppage in decades.
                            Yeah, Floyd would cut him to ribbons. Absolutely no contest.

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                            • sheredia
                              MVP
                              • Apr 2006
                              • 2350

                              #1979
                              Re: Boxing Off-Topic

                              Originally posted by Money99
                              The only way a Floyd vs Connor fight would be interesting is if they fought with some kind of mix between boxing and MMA.

                              No submissions, but you're allowed to rassle a bit. And definitely allow full striking beyond just fists.

                              If it's a straight-up boxing contest, it'll be over fast.
                              McGregor was getting tagged by Diaz quite easily. What would happen if he's facing a world-class pugilist?
                              This might be the only time Floyd would record a legitimate stoppage in decades.
                              good point, but when is the last time floyd went for a knockout? not counting the free shot he had against ortiz. due to the uniqueness of the fight and to make it somewhat fair for both, conor could make some demands. one could be, boxing match in an octagon with 8 oz. boxing gloves. 5 mma rounds and scoring. we'll see if floyd will agree to that.

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                              • Money99
                                Hall Of Fame
                                • Sep 2002
                                • 12694

                                #1980
                                Re: Boxing Off-Topic

                                Originally posted by sheredia
                                good point, but when is the last time floyd went for a knockout? not counting the free shot he had against ortiz. due to the uniqueness of the fight and to make it somewhat fair for both, conor could make some demands. one could be, boxing match in an octagon with 8 oz. boxing gloves. 5 mma rounds and scoring. we'll see if floyd will agree to that.
                                Floyd never goes for the KO because his hands are brittle and he lacks world-class power.
                                But that's against the top boxers in the world who know how to take a punch and roll with it.

                                Diaz shook McGregor huge with a right-hand. So much so, Diaz even did a little flex following the shot.
                                What will happen if/when Floyd tags him with a right-hand. And he's so much faster than Diaz that he'll probably follow it up with another 3 or 4 punches.

                                I also think 8oz gloves would help Floyd more than McGregor.
                                He'd be even faster and pack even more whollop.

                                Unless the fight allows for grappling as well as striking with knees, elbows, legs, etc, McGregor is going to get hurt something fierce.
                                I'm no Floyd fan at all, but he is a world class pugilist. He will hit Connor so fast and with so many combinations, he'll need a locksmith to untie him.
                                And it won't matter if it's 3 or 5 min rounds. Floyd's always been a tireless worker and trains like his life depends on it. I can't recall a fight where he looked gassed.

                                The only chance McGregor has would be if it was fought with full MMA rules and inside an octogon.
                                If it's purely a boxing exhibit, oh boy. Good night Irene.

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