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[Haz____]

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How dare I question his power!

-KO in 4 seconds
-KO in 8 seconds
-KO in 13 seconds
-KO in 16 seconds
-KO in 38 seconds
-6 more KOs in under a 1 minute & 30 seconds

Yeah. Definitely no power. None at all. Pillow fists. Slapper. Can't even throw a punch.

What are you people even talking about.... Take off the blinders. It's OK to have respect for both athletes.



Also, you don't need to fight like Tyson to have "Power". You also don't need to throw every single strike full force to knock someone out. What Conor is doing is using tempo changes with his strikes to set up the power shots. Obviously against Floyd there won't be many opportunities for the power shots. That doesn't mean it's not there..

[ggsimmonds]

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-KO in 4 seconds
-KO in 8 seconds
-KO in 13 seconds
-KO in 16 seconds
-KO in 38 seconds
-6 more KOs in under a 1 minute & 30 seconds

Yeah. Definitely no power. None at all. Pillow fists. Slapper. Can't even throw a punch.

What are you people even talking about.... Take off the blinders. It's OK to have respect for both athletes.



Also, you don't need to fight like Tyson to have "Power". You also don't need to throw every single strike full force to knock someone out. What Conor is doing is using tempo changes with his strikes to set up the power shots. Obviously against Floyd there won't be many opportunities for the power shots. That doesn't mean it's not there..

uh oh now I done it.

Before you get worked up (too late?) catch up on the thread. I don't care what he did in the UFC. This fight against Floyd he did not display impressive power. Justify its absence if you want, doesn't change the fact that it wasn't there.

[Haz____]

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I'm not even a Conor fan at all.

You just don't understand what you're talking about, or watching. If you throw everything full force at Floyd you'll miss every shot. You need to change up your timing, rhythm, and tempo to set up shots to land. That's high level boxing technique whether you like it or not.

Again, it's ok to respect both athletes.

No idea why some of you are being so aggressively bias.

[ggsimmonds]

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I'm not even a Conor fan at all.

You just don't understand what you're talking about, or watching. If you throw everything full force at Floyd you'll miss every shot. You need to change up your timing, rhythm, and tempo to set up shots to land. That's high level boxing technique whether you like it or not.

Again, it's ok to respect both athletes.

No idea why some of you are being so aggressively bias.

So aggressively bias (sic)?

How many of my posts in this thread have you read? I was one of the first to give Conor praise for how well he did in the ring.

I'm just not going to coddle him, his fans, and mma fans in general by acting like there weren't some major flaws and shortcomings.

Nice little false dichotomy there, as if the only two options are throwing everything full power or not demonstrating any power. Any other fallacies you wanna throw at me? Strawmen are always popular.

[Haz____]

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Anyone trying to have a discussion with you is better off talking to a brick wall.

No sweat off my back. Do you bro.

[ggsimmonds]

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Anyone trying to have a discussion with you is better off talking to a brick wall.

No sweat off my back. Do you bro.

Then go impress a brick wall by mentioning Conor's KO times.

[sheredia]

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Please. This was a boxing match, made with boxing rules. Mayweather was the A side and called the shots, as McGregor came to him to make the match.

Boxing rules. Belts on the line. 12 rounds. It was up to McGregor to get in shape to last 36 minutes in the ring, and he didn't. About the only thing he did wrong in this fight, though. Full credit to McGregor, who fared MUCH better than I imagined.

i see what you mean.....it was kind of set up for conor to lose and promote UFC at the same time, which it did quite well, i think. conor promoted his brand and the UFC for the future going forward. there was no way he could get into 12 round shape in the time he was allowed. if anything, conor has a great chin since he took floyd's best and never went down. he lost from sheer fatigue. floyd just took advantage of his inexperience and connected clean shots on a man who couldn't hold up his arms to defend himself, that was it. kudos to conor for taking the fight to floyd and lasting as long as he did. in his defense, if this was not his first pro fight, the ref probably lets it the fight go on until he goes down at least one time.

[Dave_S]

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Just to possibly clear something up, he did not say he never sparred, only that he didn't in the past month.
Edit: at least I think that is what I heard him say

Last I heard, Robbie Lawler quit sparring a long time ago, and didn't really spar during his championship reign.

I get boxing and mma sparring is different and different injuries can occur, but I like the idea of avoiding unnecessary potential concussions and TBI.

[sheredia]

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There are conflicting stories about whether he sparred. Floyd said he didnt but Floyd isnt always the most reliable source when it comes to him. Ellerbee said that Floyd had prepared for Conor's awkward style. Now the best way to do that is to spar. He couldve just watched tape but Floyd has never been a big tape watcher if I recall correctly or Ellerbee could be lying.

if you look at it from a boxing perspective, floyd didn't do that well. yes, he won by TKO but only after waiting for conor to fatigue, throw some pot shots and wait for a quick stoppage. conor held his own quite well up until that point though. especially for his pro debut. if conor jabs more and doesn't tire out, floyd would have had his hands full. i was waiting for conor to yell at floyd when the fight was stopped "you never got me down, floyd!! you never got me down!!"....(raging bull). lol.

[GreenLightning]

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OK. Then let's see Mayweather fight 38 more times to exceed Chavez's mark.

My point is 50-0 is not the "record" that Mayweather has depicted and sadly the sports media and casual boxing fans have adopted. Chavez's unblemished record in his first 87 fights -- not 50 -- is FAR more impressive and noteworthy.

But our hyperbole-obsessed world is a sucker for anything, so when Mayweather spews this "TBE" BS and how his 50-0 is the most significant achievement in boxing history, we drink that drivel from a fire hose because we're too stupid or lazy to look at facts.

I am not a fan of Floyd and find this TBE BS laughable.

[sheredia]

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I am not a fan of Floyd and find this TBE BS laughable.

yeah, he's The Best Ever at conning the commission to make this a legit fight and count towards his record....to close your career on this fight pretty much says it all. #50-0*

[ggsimmonds]

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i see what you mean.....it was kind of set up for conor to lose and promote UFC at the same time, which it did quite well, i think. conor promoted his brand and the UFC for the future going forward. there was no way he could get into 12 round shape in the time he was allowed. if anything, conor has a great chin since he took floyd's best and never went down. he lost from sheer fatigue. floyd just took advantage of his inexperience and connected clean shots on a man who couldn't hold up his arms to defend himself, that was it. kudos to conor for taking the fight to floyd and lasting as long as he did. in his defense, if this was not his first pro fight, the ref probably lets it the fight go on until he goes down at least one time.

That is what I thought at first, but after rewatching the end I no longer feel that way. Conor went a long time (almost a minute I think) without throwing a punch or getting his hands up to provide a defense. One of Floyd's punches staggered him halfway across the ring and the only reason he did not go down was because of the ropes. I think the ref treated him the same as any other boxer. Feel like he gave him a last chance to clinch but instead Conor raised his head without bringing his arms along and got tagged again, and that was when the ref intervened.

Can't remember who it was but one of the Showtime guys pointed out that surviving when you are rocked is a boxing skill in itself and Conor's inexperience there definitely showed.

I am not a fan of Floyd and find this TBE BS laughable.

May sound odd but for me it is a situation where I don't think he is TBE, but I do think he has earned the right to call himself that.

[Dave_S]

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yeah, he's The Best Ever at conning the commission to make this a legit fight and count towards his record....to close your career on this fight pretty much says it all. #50-0*

Lol if you don't think Rocky Marcinio didn't fight any cans.

About TBE, if you don't think you're the best you probably shouldn't be competing in combat sports.

[pk500]

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You're right, it's easy to just believe your assumptions rather than the man in question. [emoji57]

Yep, the same man in question who said there's no proof he hit women yet was convicted and served time for it. Yep, I'm supposed to believe everything he says.

[ggsimmonds]

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Yep, the same man in question who said there's no proof he hit women yet was convicted and served time for it. Yep, I'm supposed to believe everything he says.

Ah, there it is. I had my suspicions but didn't want to say anything.