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  • steelcityjames
    Pro
    • Dec 2010
    • 877

    #4651
    Re: Boxing Off-Topic

    Brilliant performance by Mikey Garcia!

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    • JayBee74
      Hall Of Fame
      • Jul 2002
      • 22989

      #4652
      Re: Boxing Off-Topic

      Originally posted by steelcityjames
      Brilliant performance by Mikey Garcia!
      Yeah, Easter made it interesting for a while although I don't think he was doing as well as Berstein stated earlier in the fight. Mikey was doing all of the hurting with precision power punching many times breaking through the guard. There were a couple of later rounds that were close to 10-8's for Garcia.

      As for facing Spence....I don't know....

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      • gmac0322
        MVP
        • Aug 2009
        • 1650

        #4653
        Re: Boxing Off-Topic

        Originally posted by JayBee74
        Yeah, Easter made it interesting for a while although I don't think he was doing as well as Berstein stated earlier in the fight. Mikey was doing all of the hurting with precision power punching many times breaking through the guard. There were a couple of later rounds that were close to 10-8's for Garcia.

        As for facing Spence....I don't know....
        Yup. Very good entertaining fight. Easter has a very good chin and it was nice to see that he is the complete opposite of boner. I dont think Spence is the right move for Mickey. At least go for a smaller 147er first and ease your way in. I think Spence handles him rather easy.

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        Last edited by gmac0322; 07-29-2018, 11:43 AM.

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        • edaddy
          MVP
          • Jun 2004
          • 2848

          #4654
          Re: Boxing Off-Topic

          Originally posted by gmac0322
          Yup. Very good entertaining fight. Easter has a very good chin and it was nice to see that he is the complete opposite of boner. I dont think Spence is the right move for Mickey. At least go for a smaller 147er first and ease your way in. I think Spence handles him rather easy.

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          Completely agree..entertaining fight..Easter hung in there and didnt wilt under Garcias pinpoint punching and pressure..Easter gained valuable experience from that fight and will be back..yea easter is a class act the opposite of Broner..I think Garcia knows he cant go up 12 lbs and deal with Spence..its either a money grab with a built in excuse or there will be a catch weight offering spence alot of money he cant refuse..I think Maggliana nailed it when he said Garcia is really coming up from featherweight..Spence looked excited for the fight..I dont know why a Crawford Spence fight isnt being hyped more..I would rather see that than Garcia Spence...
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          • JayBee74
            Hall Of Fame
            • Jul 2002
            • 22989

            #4655
            Re: Boxing Off-Topic

            Originally posted by edaddy
            Completely agree..entertaining fight..Easter hung in there and didnt wilt under Garcias pinpoint punching and pressure.
            I saw some wilting but I see what you are saying. To Easter's credit, he finished the fight.

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            • pietasterp
              All Star
              • Feb 2004
              • 6240

              #4656
              Re: Boxing Off-Topic

              Random thoughts on the recent bouts, most of which have been covered already in this thread...

              - Jaime Munguia is a big, strong kid, but he's effectively a cruiserweight campaigning at super welterweight. Once again proving that the most valuable ability in boxing today is not speed or technique, it's the ability to lose/gain massive amounts of weight quickly. I'm personally tired of this farce, and I'd like to see boxing go back to same-day weigh-ins. There's no evidence that day-before weigh-ins are any safer, and if anything, it's potentially more dangerous because you're putting guys into the ring that aren't even in the same weight class. There's no reason a guy should have a functional 10 or 15+ pound weight advantage in a fight; it completely obviates the point of having weight classes in the first place.

              - Mikey Garcia has been one of the best pound-for-pound fighters for a long time now, and there's no one at lightweight or below that can challenge him. The fights are all at 140 and increasingly, 147, which is too bad because that seems like just a bit above where his natural 'best' fighting weight is. It seems crazy to me that he wants to go up 2 weight classes and fight the best in the division as his very first welterweight bout, but if that's what he wants to do...so be it. I'm constantly complaining that people don't fight each other in their primes, so I guess I can't blame a guy for wanting the best.

              I like Mikey. He's been one of my favorite fighters for quite some time now, so I want to see him keep challenging himself.

              - Did anyone happen to see the Thomas Mattice v. Zhora Hamazaryan fight from "ShoBox: The New Generation" a few weeks back? By far one of the worst decisions I've ever seen, bordering on Olympics-level shenanigans by the judges. It's obvious the promotional interests really needed Mattice to win, and made it happen in highly hilarious fashion. If you missed the "fight", it consisted of Hamazaryan knocking down Mattice in the early rounds (nearly knocking him out), nearly knocking him down on several occasions later in the fight, and essentially dominating every round beyond any serious doubt. Hamazaryan did not get the decision.

              Mattice looks genuinely confused for a brief second when they announced his name as the winner. If this wasn't a nationally televised fight, they could probably have gotten away with it. Heck, they probably will get away with it anyway. But this one is just so bad, it's going to follow the fighter around (rightly or wrongly) for the rest of his career. Which I suspect won't be very long and/or distinguished, based on what I saw on a prospect-undercard bout...

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              • JayBee74
                Hall Of Fame
                • Jul 2002
                • 22989

                #4657
                Re: Boxing Off-Topic

                Originally posted by pietasterp
                It seems crazy to me that he wants to go up 2 weight classes and fight the best in the division as his very first welterweight bout, but if that's what he wants to do...so be it. I'm constantly complaining that people don't fight each other in their primes, so I guess I can't blame a guy for wanting the best.
                The 135 to 147 successful jump has been done before most notably by Duran (against Leonard) and Shane Mosley (against Oscar), but there was no overwhelming size advantage enjoyed by the smaller man (in fact Duran looked fuller and stronger than Leonard). Against Spence that would not be the case.

                By the way, the "historic" fights I referenced happened under the "same day" weigh-in era (Leonard-Duran 1) and the "day before" weigh-in era (Mosley-De La Hoya 1).

                Originally posted by pietasterp
                - Mikey Garcia has been one of the best pound-for-pound fighters for a long time now, and there's no one at lightweight or below that can challenge him.
                Lomachenko might have something to say about not being able to beat Mikey but that's another story.

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                • pietasterp
                  All Star
                  • Feb 2004
                  • 6240

                  #4658
                  Re: Boxing Off-Topic

                  Originally posted by JayBee74
                  The 135 to 147 successful jump has been done before most notably by Duran (against Leonard) and Shane Mosley (against Oscar), but there was no overwhelming size advantage enjoyed by the smaller man (in fact Duran looked fuller and stronger than Leonard). Against Spence that would not be the case.

                  By the way, the "historic" fights I referenced happened under the "same day" weigh-in era (Leonard-Duran 1) and the "day before" weigh-in era (Mosley-De La Hoya 1).
                  Good points, all. Anyway, I'm all for Mikey giving it a shot. There aren't a whole lot of interesting fights on the horizon that are coming to mind, so I'll take whatever we can get.

                  Originally posted by JayBee74
                  Lomachenko might have something to say about not being able to beat Mikey but that's another story.
                  Touche. Notable oversight on my part. I suppose I meant of the fights that can actually be made right now....

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                  • edaddy
                    MVP
                    • Jun 2004
                    • 2848

                    #4659
                    Re: Boxing Off-Topic

                    Alvarez was impressive stopping Kovalev tonight .Kovalev isnt the fighter he once was but he was still formidable..and was leading on all 3 scorecards..Alvarez found some power from somewhere...
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                    • JayBee74
                      Hall Of Fame
                      • Jul 2002
                      • 22989

                      #4660
                      Re: Boxing Off-Topic

                      Originally posted by edaddy
                      Alvarez was impressive stopping Kovalev tonight .Kovalev isnt the fighter he once was but he was still formidable..and was leading on all 3 scorecards..Alvarez found some power from somewhere...
                      Shocking-I thought Kovalez's power was doing the job.

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                      • JayBee74
                        Hall Of Fame
                        • Jul 2002
                        • 22989

                        #4661
                        Re: Boxing Off-Topic



                        Roy Jones calls it "high on the chin" better known as the temple.

                        EDIT: Kovalez appeared tired as Alvarez landed a windup right hand through a very lazy defense.

                        The "Krusher's" promoter Kathy Duva tried to do some damage control, but mostly highlighted a problem that might lead to an early retirement:

                        “Sergey seems to gas out after six rounds, He was great for six rounds and then he faltered. I assumed he got tired.”
                        Last edited by JayBee74; 08-05-2018, 01:52 AM.

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                        • gmac0322
                          MVP
                          • Aug 2009
                          • 1650

                          #4662
                          Re: Boxing Off-Topic

                          Originally posted by JayBee74


                          Roy Jones calls it "high on the chin" better known as the temple.

                          EDIT: Kovalez appeared tired as Alvarez landed a windup right hand through a very lazy defense.

                          The "Krusher's" promoter Kathy Duva tried to do some damage control, but mostly highlighted a problem that might lead to an early retirement:

                          “Sergey seems to gas out after six rounds, He was great for six rounds and then he faltered. I assumed he got tired.”
                          I will have to check that fight out. I forgot that it was happening. I was watching the Berto vs Alexander fight.

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                          • JayBee74
                            Hall Of Fame
                            • Jul 2002
                            • 22989

                            #4663
                            Re: Boxing Off-Topic

                            A perfect shot in the perfect location. Paulie M. might have been able to KO Kovalez in that situation.
                            Spoiler


                            <iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/35WFvgJm4vw" frameborder="0" allow="autoplay; encrypted-media" allowfullscreen></iframe>

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                            • gmac0322
                              MVP
                              • Aug 2009
                              • 1650

                              #4664
                              Re: Boxing Off-Topic

                              Originally posted by JayBee74
                              A perfect shot in the perfect location. Paulie M. might have been able to KO Kovalez in that situation.
                              Spoiler


                              <iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/35WFvgJm4vw" frameborder="0" allow="autoplay; encrypted-media" allowfullscreen></iframe>
                              Agreed. Completely perfect shot. Great camera work too. Thanks for the video Jay Bee

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                              • edaddy
                                MVP
                                • Jun 2004
                                • 2848

                                #4665
                                Re: Boxing Off-Topic

                                Originally posted by JayBee74


                                Roy Jones calls it "high on the chin" better known as the temple.

                                EDIT: Kovalez appeared tired as Alvarez landed a windup right hand through a very lazy defense.

                                The "Krusher's" promoter Kathy Duva tried to do some damage control, but mostly highlighted a problem that might lead to an early retirement:

                                “Sergey seems to gas out after six rounds, He was great for six rounds and then he faltered. I assumed he got tired.”
                                I agree..to me it looked like he literally got old in the ring. He looked like he was trying to spit out his mouthpiece because he was gassed after the knockdown
                                .people think its a myth but I have seen it too much..alvarez did land a good shot on the sweet spot though..
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