Boxing Off-Topic

[gmac0322]

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Having problems replaying the fight. I don't like that.

Last night I had some audio problems during the event. On the computer it was fine. On the roku app it was in and out

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[edaddy]

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I had canelo winning the fight but I dont think it was as comfortable as the dazn commentators would have you think. It was another fight that I feel could've went 15 rounds. Neither hurt each other and I feel Jacob's was landing more punches in the latter part of the fight. Sad thing is I dont think Jacob's will get a shot at either ggg or canelo again. He might have to go to another weight class

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Good post!!.. I had canelo winning 8-4 ...Jacobs simply didn't put his foot on the gas but a lot of that had to do with Canelo's speed and his defense was superb. I think Jacobs was puzzled for at least 3 quarters of the fight and spent that time figuring out a stance and style that could get to Canelo.. With that said Jacobs knew that a decision wasn't likely and for him to lay back in the 12th round with him starting to solve the Canelo puzzle is inexcusable. Sometimes he gets into that sparring partner mentality which always has frustrated me about him. Those championship rounds he had to press the issue against Canelo but he didn't...GGG fell into that same trap...This is one fight where he should have taken the I am going all out approach..one of us is getting knocked out!!!

[edaddy]

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LOL, he's a great self-promoter.
He's mouthed himself into several significant fights over the past few years despite not deserving any of them.

Yea he is delusional like Broner...but I doubt he gets any big fights because he did the one thing boxers can't do and quit...It took Duran a long time to get the sting of that "no Mas' fight out of the public opinion but he had a more loyal fan base and a proven track record of winning tough fights.. I doubt I would watch Khan again even if it were free..

[pk500]

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Canelo 8-4.

Jacobs was a fool to surrender $875,000 to gain 3 extra pounds and violate the rehydration clause because he never used his height, reach or extra size to pressure Canelo. Danny tried to counter a growing master of counterpunching, and it didn't work.

I doubt he would have fought any differently 3 pounds lighter, so that was a pretty expensive and foolish trade to make.

Jacobs is the Shawn Porter of 160. He's very good, tough and skilled, but not good enough to topple the true kingpins of the division.

I'm not sure Danny will fare that much better at 168, as I don't think his power is nearly as good as advertised. He nailed Canelo with the best punch of the fight from any fighter in around the eighth or ninth, as I recall, and Canelo barely moved backward. That doesn't bode well for success against some of the bigger, tougher animals at 168.

[Money99]

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Canelo 8-4.

Jacobs was a fool to surrender $875,000 to gain 3 extra pounds and violate the rehydration clause because he never used his height, reach or extra size to pressure Canelo. Danny tried to counter a growing master of counterpunching, and it didn't work.

I doubt he would have fought any differently 3 pounds lighter, so that was a pretty expensive and foolish trade to make.

Jacobs is the Shawn Porter of 160. He's very good, tough and skilled, but not good enough to topple the true kingpins of the division.

I'm not sure Danny will fare that much better at 168, as I don't think his power is nearly as good as advertised. He nailed Canelo with the best punch of the fight from any fighter in around the eighth or ninth, as I recall, and Canelo barely moved backward. That doesn't bode well for success against some of the bigger, tougher animals at 168.

Agreed on all counts.
I had Alvarez winning 7-5, but could have easily been 8-4.
I felt Jacobs won 4 of the last 5 rounds, but only 1 of the first 7.

As you stated, Alvarez's counter punching has only gotten better as has his defense.
He is close to Mayweather level for staying in the pocket, avoiding shots and landing his own.
He also clearly has a strong chin and is a very strong body puncher.

However, while Alvarez looks powerful, he doesn't really possess KO power - at least not at 160.
I also wonder, as he grows, when he'll eventually start fighting at catchweights like he did when he was at 154. By the end of his DAZN contract, I wouldn't be shocked if he's fighting between 163-167.

[JayBee74]

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I also wonder, as he grows, when he'll eventually start fighting at catchweights like he did when he was at 154. By the end of his DAZN contract, I wouldn't be shocked if he's fighting between 163-167.

Oscar with some nonsense about Kovalez or Callum Smith at 175.

[pk500]

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Oscar with some nonsense about Kovalez or Callum Smith at 175.

Oscar also is spewing nonsense about Canelo fighting Spence at 160.

He may be the Golden Boy, but it's about time the boxing media and fans call out De La Hoya for being an even bigger BS artist among promoters than Arum or Hearn. We don't know about Haymon because he doesn't speak to the media.

DLH is talking this sh*t only to obscure the fact that many of his fighters can't get the best REAL matchups that the fans want because of continued balkanization among promoters and networks.

Just stop, Oscar. Please.

[Money99]

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Great points pk. Teddy Atlas recently stated on a XM boxing that boxing needs a czar similar to Dana White.
He’s right but that’s a pipe dream.
The only way that happens is if one of the promoters signs all the best fighters.
All of this nonsense would come to an end if the alphabet belts ranked champs from other organizations and forced them to defend against one another.


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[pk500]

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Great points pk. Teddy Atlas recently stated on a XM boxing that boxing needs a czar similar to Dana White.
He’s right but that’s a pipe dream.
The only way that happens is if one of the promoters signs all the best fighters.
All of this nonsense would come to an end if the alphabet belts ranked champs from other organizations and forced them to defend against one another.


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White's power is overstated. Sure, he has a monopoly on UFC fighters. But he also pays them complete sh*t compared to top boxers, and some are defecting to other MMA groups. Plus he has even less of a grasp on the PED scourge that infects MMA than boxing does on its drug problems.

The ideal boxing czar continues to pay top fighters at the going rate while giving fans the matchups they crave.

I know: Dream on.

[ProfessaPackMan]

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Damn, Harold Lederman passed away today.

[JayBee74]

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Damn, Harold Lederman passed away today.

Wow. RIP Harold.

[JayBee74]

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Julian Williams upset Hurd tonight in a bruising inside fighting war. To be fair Williams did most of the bruising with an array of quicker sharper punches. Unofficial scorer Hazzard was generous to Hurd but Adelaide Byrd-like when he gave the 11th to the now ex-champ. (Below is Hazzard's scorecard through 11).



116-111 and two 115-112's weren't too off.

[steelcityjames]

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RIP Harold....didn't always agree with his scoring but he was always insightful and fun to watch/listen to

[gmac0322]

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R.i.p. Lederman. He will be missed.

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[allBthere]

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R.i.p. Lederman. He will be missed.

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agreed. I loved hearing him chime in with so much enthusiasm and love.

"OK JIM, The fighter cannot be saved by the bell at the end of any round, including the 12th and Final ROUND - ...JIM!"