Boxing Off-Topic

[edaddy]

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My interest is at an all time low and it pains me to have to say it. I'll watch fights that are free on a regular cable network, but I'm done paying for streaming services and PPV cards. The greedy powers that be are the ones who drove and continue to drive fans away . Oh well, it is what it is...

Man you are spit on I am a lifelong diehard boxing fan and participated in the sport. I remember the days of Tuesday night fights Friday Night fights big fights being on ABC and PPV fights that t had to ti be generational . The grade attitude and overall fighting for legacy of boxing has deteriorated to the point I cant watch it!! we got youtubers talking about they are the face of boxing and champions and contenders not fighting each other !! Terrible PPV fights for 80 a pop and boxers more worried about sicisl media than being great!!! when charlo ran against Canelo then said he looking for the next bag against crawford U was done my man!! Greedy promoters boxers and kiddie fans have ruined this sweetscience!!

[steelcityjames]

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I'm with you, steelcityjames. I'm moving towards being "out" on boxing in general. And we are among the last of the die-hards!

Without significant changes, boxing is going to be right next to "cockfighting" in the hierarchy of sports.

It sucks. It's been my favorite sport since I was a little kid in the 1970s. I've enjoyed watching and scoring fights for decades but today's boxing is a shell of what it used to be.

[steelcityjames]

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Man you are spit on I am a lifelong diehard boxing fan and participated in the sport. I remember the days of Tuesday night fights Friday Night fights big fights being on ABC and PPV fights that t had to ti be generational . The grade attitude and overall fighting for legacy of boxing has deteriorated to the point I cant watch it!! we got youtubers talking about they are the face of boxing and champions and contenders not fighting each other !! Terrible PPV fights for 80 a pop and boxers more worried about sicisl media than being great!!! when charlo ran against Canelo then said he looking for the next bag against crawford U was done my man!! Greedy promoters boxers and kiddie fans have ruined this sweetscience!!

Man....back in the day I couldn't wait for Tuesday Night Fights on USA Network. They always featured a great mix of household names and up and coming prospects. It was absolutely glorious

[Kayla]

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Can't wait for the fight between Tyson Fury and Francis Ngannou next weekend. This should be a great fight to watch that Fury is likely to win but Ngannou certainly has the power and ability to give him some tough time.

[allBthere]

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Can't wait for the fight between Tyson Fury and Francis Ngannou next weekend. This should be a great fight to watch that Fury is likely to win but Ngannou certainly has the power and ability to give him some tough time.

you forgot to include /sarcasm lol

[edaddy]

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you forgot to include /sarcasm lol

I agree that fight is a perfect money grab and they actually trying to make it look like a competitive fight!! onlt instructions fury is getting is to carry Ngua until after the 6th other than that this is a wirkd champ
vs a below average amatuer so!! but ths is the state of boxing

[pietasterp]

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I might not even watch that fight if it were on regular old ESPN...

[JayBee74]

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Didn’t see the fight but… WOW!

[KG]

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You could see the Mike Tyson influence on Ngannou. He was doing a good job of setting up the shots upstairs with those jabs to the body.


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[ojandpizza]

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Didn’t watch but the typical Twitter posters all had Ngannou winning. The 2-3 people I saw actually score it (idk who they were) said 95-94 Fury. Compubox stats looked to show slight edge to Fury in most rounds too.. regardless looks like this was a great showing from Ngannou or horrible showing from Fury, maybe a bit of both?

Does Fury look better/more motivated for a fight with Usyk, or is he done. Does Ngannou box again down the road?

[JayBee74]

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Didn’t watch but the typical Twitter posters all had Ngannou winning. The 2-3 people I saw actually score it (idk who they were) said 95-94 Fury. Compubox stats looked to show slight edge to Fury in most rounds too.. regardless looks like this was a great showing from Ngannou or horrible showing from Fury, maybe a bit of both?

Does Fury look better/more motivated for a fight with Usyk, or is he done. Does Ngannou box again down the road?

Before the 10th (and final) round DraftKings had Ngannou the favorite to win the fight at -125, with Fury not too far behind at +100. One of the three judges gave Fury the last round.

[allBthere]

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I watched it and Tyson looked terrible.

HE should be embarrassed and someone like AJ should try to fight either Francis or Tyson asap. imo both are so beatable but major props where it's due to Francis.

I think one major point of confusion for Fury was Francis switching to southpaw for a good portion of the fight.

My own obvious thing I noticed was before and after the knockdown whenever Francis was in orthodox he would try to counter Fury's 1-2 with his own hook which is what caused the knockdown. Fury should have been coached to throw the jab and feint like he's going for the 2, let the hook whiz by then throw his big right - mix it up and throw his own hook as well. It was like clockwork - everyone in the building knew the hook was coming and when and Tyson still didn't know how to deal with it.

Tyson's punches are also not technically sound imo. I always hear what a good boxer he is, but he can't seem to throw proper punches. There's a lot of arm punches and weird wrist alignment - he's just really big and really awkward.

So the big takeaway is Francis's stock skyrocketed in the boxing world so Usyk, Wilder or AJ should all be chomping at the bit to fight him. As well as he did, any top heavy should be able to beat him down. The whole fight was very low volume as well - I'd be surprised if either threw over 100 punches! (slight exaggeration there). Cash in! the time is now!

The only thing that saved that fight was the drama from the knockdown - otherwise it wasn't very good aside from the hype. Scores were a bit dubious as well.

[JayBee74]

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Fury's co-promoter is suggesting Ngannou fight the fast-declining Joe Joyce. That's his way of telling the Cameroonian that the rematch timetable is controlled by Fury.

[Money99]

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Terrance Crawford was tweeting about how boxers need to come together and control the sport and engage fans more. Too many belts, too many champs, etc.

I completely agree, but I thought it was hilarious coming from a fighter who was one-half of the reason he and Spence didn't fight years ago, when both were in their 147 lb primes and before any serious car accidents.

Then, about a week after he makes this post, he tweets at the WBA about getting him one of those belts.

The fighters are no better than the promoters. Too many of them hide behind multiple belts, weight classes and catchweights.

I'm 100% pro fighter. These men and women should be working together to form a union that pays for basic needs and their fair share of purses.
At the same time, they also need to stop skating around each other for years to let the fights 'marinate', or hide behind some obscure belt so they don't have to fight a fellow champ as one of their mandatories.
Crawford is the poster child of the modern fighter who does all of the above.

[allBthere]

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There is no voice of how to do things the right way.

There are 4 sanctioning bodies which would each function as a 'league' so to change things to be united/professional they would have to unite or one would have to be head and shoulders above the rest making the others serve as feeder leagues.

The key is how is it financially motivating for the fighters and promoters in the future. What does a pathway look like where things are best for the fans and how do we get there?

To my mind, I can't think of a way. The ONLY thing I can think of that would realistically make a difference would be some kind of boxers union. The union would end up controlling the the whole sport which itself could be a big problem as well. Not to mention boxing is genuinely an international sport.

I'm not sure how else it could work beyond just leaving it the way it is.