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  • JayBee74
    Hall Of Fame
    • Jul 2002
    • 22989

    #3466
    Re: Boxing Off-Topic

    I would say that was the widest opening I've ever seen for a body shot to come through but Crawford's reflexes are a little above average. This was a total mismatch. The countering champ saw that continually cocked and telegraphed left cross coming from a mile away.

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    • gmac0322
      MVP
      • Aug 2009
      • 1650

      #3467
      Re: Boxing Off-Topic

      I love when fighters actually go to the body and mix it up. Definitely was a wide opening as you said. That speed. Perfect shot

      Sent from my SM-N920V using Tapatalk

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      • sheredia
        MVP
        • Apr 2006
        • 2350

        #3468
        Re: Boxing Off-Topic

        Originally posted by gmac0322
        I love when fighters actually go to the body and mix it up. Definitely was a wide opening as you said. That speed. Perfect shot

        Sent from my SM-N920V using Tapatalk
        crawford is at the top of his game right now and ready for some big name opponents....

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        • ubernoob
          ****
          • Jul 2004
          • 15522

          #3469
          Re: Boxing Off-Topic

          Dude's gonna have to move up though. Ain't nothing there for him now.
          bad

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          • ggsimmonds
            Hall Of Fame
            • Jan 2009
            • 11235

            #3470
            Re: Boxing Off-Topic

            I'm in my circle of honesty today, I'm more of a casual boxing fan and I'm wondering, is it time to jump on the Crawford bandwagon?

            Kidding aside, could Crawford be the next superstar for boxing?

            Originally posted by aholbert32
            I'm talking about people who regularly watch boxing or MMA. Not people who have watched a Conor fight every once in a while.

            The fact that T-Mobile is sold out has nothing to do with people taking the fight as real or competitive. They are going to for the spectacle. ****, if it wasnt for the extremely high ticket prices, I wouldve gone to the fight.

            I went to Canelo/Chavez for the same reason. I didnt think it would be a competetive fight and it wasnt. I went because it was a great spectacle with two of the biggest Mexican fighters fighting each other.

            Conor and Dana are trying to sell a fight. What do you expect them to do? Dana: "Conor is first time professional boxer and he's fighting an all time great. He has no chance" LOL. They are trying to get people to watch the fight.

            The reason why Conor's odds are higher is because 1) Floyd is 40. 2) Conor has a huge following and 3)The odds are still decent if you want to put money on Conor. Most people didnt know who Ortiz was when he fought Floyd. Same with Maidana.
            I think you know why I called it a no true scotsman fallacy.
            No true fight fan would give Conor a chance if what you are saying.

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            • JayBee74
              Hall Of Fame
              • Jul 2002
              • 22989

              #3471
              Re: Boxing Off-Topic

              Originally posted by aholbert32
              The reason why Conor's odds are higher is because 1) Floyd is 40. 2) Conor has a huge following and 3)The odds are still decent if you want to put money on Conor. Most people didnt know who Ortiz was when he fought Floyd. Same with Maidana.
              I think the odds are really decent if you want to put money on Floyd (Mayweather -400, McGregor +300). If you bet Conor at 3-1 you're getting little betting value. I remember when Holyfield opened at 25-1 against Tyson in a massively hyped fight (part of Iron Mike's comeback from prison) and then finally settled in as a 7-1 underdog. Odds are way, way, way too short on the MMA fighter.

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              • GreenLightning
                Rookie
                • Mar 2017
                • 270

                #3472
                Re: Boxing Off-Topic

                The hype machine. Floyd's fights are all the same at least over the last while. No reason to think this will be any different especially in with a guy who is totally out of his element and in the boxing ring has no clue what the hell he has gotten himself into. He has no chance to win and anyone putting money on him to win might as well be burning their money.

                There is no question Conor can make more money in the boxing ring so he will do himself a big favor by trying to keep this close enough so there would be interest in another boxing match with someone who could generate a decent payday for him. He's got a family there is no sense putting himself in harm's way fighting much more in the octagon.

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                • aholbert32
                  (aka Alberto)
                  • Jul 2002
                  • 33106

                  #3473
                  Re: Boxing Off-Topic

                  Originally posted by GreenLightning
                  The hype machine. Floyd's fights are all the same at least over the last while. No reason to think this will be any different especially in with a guy who is totally out of his element and in the boxing ring has no clue what the hell he has gotten himself into. He has no chance to win and anyone putting money on him to win might as well be burning their money.

                  There is no question Conor can make more money in the boxing ring so he will do himself a big favor by trying to keep this close enough so there would be interest in another boxing match with someone who could generate a decent payday for him. He's got a family there is no sense putting himself in harm's way fighting much more in the octagon.
                  There isnt a single boxer other than Canelo (and he's not fighting Canelo) that could generate more money for Conor than a trilogy fight with Nick Diaz in MMA. Not even close.

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                  • GreenLightning
                    Rookie
                    • Mar 2017
                    • 270

                    #3474
                    Re: Boxing Off-Topic

                    Originally posted by aholbert32
                    There isnt a single boxer other than Canelo (and he's not fighting Canelo) that could generate more money for Conor than a trilogy fight with Nick Diaz in MMA. Not even close.
                    How much can he make in MMA after White takes his pound? I have to disagree with your premise.

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                    • JayBee74
                      Hall Of Fame
                      • Jul 2002
                      • 22989

                      #3475
                      Re: Boxing Off-Topic

                      I didn't know Mcgregor and Diaz made that much money for their rematch (part of UFC 202). I just looked it up:

                      Conor McGregor Total UFC 202 Estimated Pay

                      Fight purse: $3 million.

                      Reebok Sponsorship money: $250.000.

                      PPV Share: $11.5 million.

                      Fight of the night bonus: $50.000.

                      Show money for his Vegas afterparty: $250.000 estimated.

                      Nate Diaz Total UFC 202 Estimated Pay

                      Fight purse: $2 million.

                      Reebok Sponsorship money: $250.000.

                      PPV Share: $10.5 million.

                      Fight of the night bonus: $50.000.
                      Show money for his Vegas afterparty: $150.000 estimated.

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                      • JayBee74
                        Hall Of Fame
                        • Jul 2002
                        • 22989

                        #3476
                        Re: Boxing Off-Topic

                        Andre Ward talking about fighting and beating Joshua.....

                        Oleksandr Gvozdyk didn't look great last night but picked it up in the knockout round.

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                        • aholbert32
                          (aka Alberto)
                          • Jul 2002
                          • 33106

                          #3477
                          Re: Boxing Off-Topic

                          Originally posted by JayBee74
                          I didn't know Mcgregor and Diaz made that much money for their rematch (part of UFC 202). I just looked it up:

                          Conor McGregor Total UFC 202 Estimated Pay

                          Fight purse: $3 million.

                          Reebok Sponsorship money: $250.000.

                          PPV Share: $11.5 million.

                          Fight of the night bonus: $50.000.

                          Show money for his Vegas afterparty: $250.000 estimated.

                          Nate Diaz Total UFC 202 Estimated Pay

                          Fight purse: $2 million.

                          Reebok Sponsorship money: $250.000.

                          PPV Share: $10.5 million.

                          Fight of the night bonus: $50.000.
                          Show money for his Vegas afterparty: $150.000 estimated.
                          And he made even more for the Eddie A. fight. Closer to 20 mil.

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                          • aholbert32
                            (aka Alberto)
                            • Jul 2002
                            • 33106

                            #3478
                            Re: Boxing Off-Topic

                            Originally posted by GreenLightning
                            How much can he make in MMA after White takes his pound? I have to disagree with your premise.
                            Conor would make anywhere from 25-30 mil when you factor in the PPV buy percentage he gets. Conor isnt doing a million dollar PPV fighting Danny Garcia or Keith Thurman. He aint selling a million against Paulie either.

                            Plus the UFC gets 20% of his boxing payday anyway.

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                            • ggsimmonds
                              Hall Of Fame
                              • Jan 2009
                              • 11235

                              #3479
                              Re: Boxing Off-Topic

                              In both boxing and MMA, the purse in Floyd's fights is an outlier.

                              Yeah Conor's biggest payday will be a fight with Floyd, hell everyone's is. That doesn't mean boxing>MMA in money though.

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                              • GreenLightning
                                Rookie
                                • Mar 2017
                                • 270

                                #3480
                                Re: Boxing Off-Topic

                                FS1 replayed the Diaz fights with Conor. Man he has absolutely no chance against a boxer like Floyd.

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