Ultimate team micro transactions the death of the mode

[DatIsraeliGuy]

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The fact you people aren't flipping out about this after the Battlefront II backlash is a huge problem, THIS SHOULD NOT BE ACCEPTABLE.

EA literally admitted these lootboxes and microtransactions aren't necessary for making money at all, they make enough money from the fully priced game, why are you so okay with this? Gaming is going to a seriously dark place of greed and we, as consumers, must condemn this or it will become the norm, much like microtransactions are now.

I'm not buying UFC 3, and so should you

[PlatNationRepresent]

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I don't mind the Microtransactions being there, BUT there needs to better more efficient ways to get cards and more coins by actually playing.

I like the sense of progression and accomplishment rewarding the player with coins to buy packs but when then the grind takes like 6 wins in a row or 12 single player wins in a row and I burn through all my temporary cards in the process.

The vanilla ranked mode should reward players with bonus coins, chance to unlock signature moves, fighter card's for UT with daily player specific challenges for different fighters, mix it up so different players get random fighter challenges and you get a little more variation in ranked mode competition rather than most people picking only top tier all the time.

[killakrok]

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I don't mind the Microtransactions being there, BUT there needs to better more efficient ways to get cards and more coins by actually playing.

There arn't better more efficient ways to get cards from just playing the game BECAUSE microtransactions are there.

The harder it is to earn cards from playing the game, the more likely people are to purchase microtransactions to get cards. Same thing with Battlefront 2, same thing with Destiny 2, same thing with NBA 2K18. It's a simple and obvious mechanic.

[PlatNationRepresent]

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There arn't better more efficient ways to get cards from just playing the game BECAUSE microtransactions are there.

The harder it is to earn cards from playing the game, the more likely people are to purchase microtransactions to get cards. Same thing with Battlefront 2, same thing with Destiny 2, same thing with NBA 2K18. It's a simple and obvious mechanic.

Fair enough, Playing devil's advocate I just hope EA has the common sense to do the right thing and make them easier to access after how SWBF2 backfired. The reason I don't mind Microtransactions on a small scale is because some people can't spend as much time on a game in order to keep up with the competition but that doesn't mean it should just be way easier to spend cash rather than play.

But like I said in another post I still don't know whether I'm gonna buy the game new or used. If they are going to make it so Online play sucks, and is only fun for people who like the ground game exploits and Pay 2 win then I'll just buy it a discount and play it offline later, plenty of awesome games coming out in early 2018 to keep me busy till I can find it for 20-30 dollars then if that's the case, otherwise I am a pretty diehard MMA fan and hoping they launch it right and release a game most people can enjoy online without any mandatory pay2win or insane grinding akin to a free2play MMORPG, should not even be a thing in a 60 dollar AAA title.

They have 3 new modes they need to put online also.

Also need to handle ranked records better, not everyone has the time to play 80 matches a day.

[Morgan Monkman]

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Nuff Said.

[mannyonelover]

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Nuff Said.

Absolutely genius whoever made that vid that’s exactly how I feel....
EA take note!!!!


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[killakrok]

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Fair enough, Playing devil's advocate I just hope EA has the common sense to do the right thing and make them easier to access after how SWBF2 backfired.

EA wont "do the right thing" because they never have and have no reason to. They STILL have said they are committed to bringing back microtransactions to Battlefront 2 even after everything that has gone wrong. They have decided on this model for all of their games and aren't going back. The model is already in UFC 3 and it's not going to suddenly be taken out for good if that wasn't the case for Battlefront.

The reason I don't mind Microtransactions on a small scale is because some people can't spend as much time on a game in order to keep up with the competition...

The reason that people won't be able to keep up IS BECAUSE OF MICROTRANSACTIONS. The system is a slower grind and will be imbalanced BECAUSE OF MICROTRANSATIONS. Saying that microtransactions help people who can't spend time on the game is circular logic because they would only need to purchase misconstructions to speed up progression that is slowed because of microtransactions.

EA has stated that their matchmaking takes "fighter attributes, moves, boosts, and perks into account" so there would be no reason for people who have less time invested into the game to need microtransactions to "keep up" since they would just be matched against others who have invested the same time. This makes microtransactions unnecessary and counterproductive to an already existing balance system put in place to balance exactly what microtransactions unbalance.

Again I ask....

How does including microtransactions in this game make this game more enjoyable?

[PlatNationRepresent]

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EA wont "do the right thing" because they never have and have no reason to. They STILL have said they are committed to bringing back microtransactions to Battlefront 2 even after everything that has gone wrong. They have decided on this model for all of their games and aren't going back. The model is already in UFC 3 and it's not going to suddenly be taken out for good if that wasn't the case for Battlefront.



The reason that people won't be able to keep up IS BECAUSE OF MICROTRANSACTIONS. The system is a slower grind and will be imbalanced BECAUSE OF MICROTRANSATIONS. Saying that microtransactions help people who can't spend time on the game is circular logic because they would only need to purchase misconstructions to speed up progression that is slowed because of microtransactions.

EA has stated that their matchmaking takes "fighter attributes, moves, boosts, and perks into account" so there would be no reason for people who have less time invested into the game to need microtransactions to "keep up" since they would just be matched against others who have invested the same time. This makes microtransactions unnecessary and counterproductive to an already existing balance system put in place to balance exactly what microtransactions unbalance.

Again I ask....

How does including microtransactions in this game make this game more enjoyable?

I agree with you for the most part, just trying to be optimistic and hope for the best. You should go argue with someone else instead.

[mannyonelover]

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I don’t think micro transactions are going anywhere because the industry is engulfed in them.
Purchasing DLC ,skins ,Extra missions , time savers etc..
Random loot boxes is the issue at hand EA is not the only one call of duty has them like crazy as well
Once again I repeat we live in a capital driven society and I believe EA has every right to sell micro transaction as long as it’s not a form of these random loot boxes , it is a form of gambling built in to our game which is completely invasive tactic in the grand scheme of things... there are many articles on this issue now since it has Raised political attention.
Sell what you must but be specific to what you’re selling!
No more percentages % of a gold item or rare item.
You pay for a silver item you get a Silver item you pay for gold item you get a gold item!!



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[mannyonelover]

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saw this a couple of days ago, should be interesting to see what happens in the future of gaming?

https://www.forbes.com/sites/insertcoin/2017/11/22/from-belgium-to-hawaii-potential-battlefront-2-loot-box-legislation-would-be-complicated/#422b74cf7cbc

[AeroZeppelin27]

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Fair enough, Playing devil's advocate I just hope EA has the common sense to do the right thing and make them easier to access after how SWBF2 backfired. The reason I don't mind Microtransactions on a small scale is because some people can't spend as much time on a game in order to keep up with the competition but that doesn't mean it should just be way easier to spend cash rather than play.

But like I said in another post I still don't know whether I'm gonna buy the game new or used. If they are going to make it so Online play sucks, and is only fun for people who like the ground game exploits and Pay 2 win then I'll just buy it a discount and play it offline later, plenty of awesome games coming out in early 2018 to keep me busy till I can find it for 20-30 dollars then if that's the case, otherwise I am a pretty diehard MMA fan and hoping they launch it right and release a game most people can enjoy online without any mandatory pay2win or insane grinding akin to a free2play MMORPG, should not even be a thing in a 60 dollar AAA title.

They have 3 new modes they need to put online also.

Also need to handle ranked records better, not everyone has the time to play 80 matches a day.

It's only in UT currently. Other online modes shouldn't be effected. If they tried to put MTs in unranked and ranked (I can't see how.. paywall fighters I guess) then there will be an uproar 10x this one.

But yeah, unranked and ranked won't be P2W, and if its any consolation it's so hard to get to the ground now a lot of cheesers aren't going to be able to wrasslehump you.
1-2 spam seems to be the go to cheese now that mount is a breeze to escape.

[chapmandachamp]

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There r only like 10 slots for ur fighter anyway after like a week u will have them all gold and to ur liking so u won’t have to buy ****


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[killakrok]

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There r only like 10 slots for ur fighter anyway after like a week u will have them all gold and to ur liking so u won’t have to buy ****

Again I ask...
How does including microtransactions in this game make this game more enjoyable?

[BilllyBopaw]

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There r only like 10 slots for ur fighter anyway after like a week u will have them all gold and to ur liking so u won’t have to buy ****


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This is like saying there are only 5 slot machines in my son's kindergarden class of 30 children. Absolutely vile, predatory, and perhaps, illegal. EA has flown under the radar for years. Their worst enemy is an informed public.

[PlatNationRepresent]

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It's only in UT currently. Other online modes shouldn't be effected. If they tried to put MTs in unranked and ranked (I can't see how.. paywall fighters I guess) then there will be an uproar 10x this one.

But yeah, unranked and ranked won't be P2W, and if its any consolation it's so hard to get to the ground now a lot of cheesezs aren't going to be able to wrasslehump you.
1-2 spam seems to be the go to cheese now that mount is a breeze to escape.

I am not worried abut Pay2Win affecting ranked. Ranked is fun up till about division 6 and up where it felt like 4 out of 5 matches played out like this, takedown, and block transitions forever.
I only mentioned Ranked because it wasn't fun at that division anymore, people just hold block until they see your takedown meter show you are vulnerable and shoot, that hasn't changed judging by the beta, I don't expect I will be playing that mode much time around so I am hoping Submission Showdown, but mostly Tournaments, and Stand and Bang are available online like quick fight.

Hoping for a lot of stuff but nothing unrealistic for the dev team to pull off. I guess time will tell if I am just wasting my time.