Ugly Knock Outs - Give me your worst examples

[Malaach]

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Do you gud think you should be able to punch guys when they get up from a of or you think it would be cheese?I kind of want it but then I think with all the kds maybe not

You can do that I have a clip of that as well.

[Malaach]

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Pretty neat but I wish they had actual mechanics in the game that allowed cage KOs. This will be a rare instance in the game, and in real life cage KOs happen all the time.

It would be nice I agree, but at the moment I think this is close as we are going to get.

[melo627]

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You can do that I have a clip of that as well.

Really?post it

[Malaach]

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Really?post it

Let me make sure I'm understanding correctly. Are you talking about hitting someone in the new Knockdown positions before standing up? Or knocking someone back down as they are trying to stand up?

That way I'm sure of what clip. Hitting someone back down as they are trying to stand up was capable in EA UFC 2.

[Malaach]

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Hitting people as they are standing back up has always been possible in the EA UFC series. It was just more severe to do in EA UFC 2. I have several clips of this in EA UFC 2.

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It's not as easy to do in EA UFC 3. But during an active Knockdown positions you can follow up with strikes I've practiced this.

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[Malaach]

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Here's a few more I found that I was practicing. One clip is landing a knee to a ground sitting opponent in an active Knockdown position.

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The second clip is landing a knee on a falling opponent for a KO.

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[Malaach]

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I'm not sure how I feel on that, on one hand it can lead to some brutally well timed KO's.
On the other hand, it can feel a little cheap as timing a body kick after certain alert KOs will kick them in the face on the way down, a body knee will happily go to the head of a grounded opponent, you can also drop them, then as the animation of them getting up plays. you can time a unblockable headkick that will drop them again or more likely just KO them.

My issue with these its a risk the player didn't instigate, yes, they got knocked down, but they didn't choose to get back up immediately while there opponent was at very close range, and that's what gets you KO'd.

I kinda wish you had the option to stay on your back after all KDs, maybe have alerts pop you back up if you flick RS up before the animation finishes.

Definately agree instigating GnP can be way to hard sometimes from a KD. The AI wouldn't do the GnP finish ever either, it'd get me down, then stand over me wailing strikes..

I understand what you mean but such things are already possible in the game I practiced such things in the beta. I haven't quite seen anything like in the Bellator FC clip I posted in the other thread. But the clips I posted here show it is possible to hit someone with unblockable strikes while in an active Knockdown position. They are not easy to land though. You need quick responses to be able to land shots like I posted in the above clips.

As well a GC posted a gif of landing a kick to the head of a ground opponent. The game can't prevent things like this from happening. Timing shots on someone getting up has been possible in EA UFC 1 & 2 as well. Especially with front kicks.

Which is why me personally I wish EA UFC 3 had a way to for the knocked down fighter to crawl/ scoot on the ground like UFC Undisputed had. Because it makes people a sitting duck like in my Bruce Lee vs Garbrandt clip from EA UFC 2.

[AeroZeppelin27]

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I understand what you mean but such things are already possible in the game I practiced such things in the beta. I haven't quite seen anything like in the Bellator FC clip I posted in the other thread. But the clips I posted here show it is possible to hit someone with unblockable strikes while in an active Knockdown position. They are not easy to land though. You need quick responses to be able to land shots like I posted in the above clips.

As well a GC posted a gif of landing a kick to the head of a ground opponent. The game can't prevent things like this from happening. Timing shots on someone getting up has been possible in EA UFC 1 & 2 as well. Especially with front kicks.

Which is why me personally I wish EA UFC 3 had a way to for the knocked down fighter to crawl/ scoot on the ground like UFC Undisputed had. Because it makes people a sitting duck like in my Bruce Lee vs Garbrandt clip from EA UFC 2.

Huh? I know you can do it in the beta, its easy as Hell, my issue is the knocked down player has no control over getting back up during a alert KD, so the player who scored the knockdown can time an unblockable strike that you have no control over.

I know you could do it in UFC 2 as well, but you chose when you got up in UFC 2 so its a risk for getting up in a risky position. It's satisfying to punish people for it.
My issue is in 3, you have no control over certain get ups, and I found it quite easy to time an unblockable head kick while my opponent went through the alert KD animation, it felt cheap as from the moment the animation begins to ends they aren't in control of the fighter.

I'm not saying you shouldn't be at risk getting up when you opponents in range. I'm saying you should be able to choose to stay down off all KDs, not just heavy ones.

As it stands. You can exploit automatic getups to continuously knockdown the opponent until you get a stun KD where you can finish the fight or you get a clean KO. It's not hard to exploit once you know what the KDs look like. Usually by throwing a headkick as they're just getting up and posting up with their arm to come back to fully standing.

I'm not saying the Alert KDs have to go or anything, I like them, but you need to be able to cancel that automatic getup if your opponent is swamping you, or be able to block from the moment your hands are off the ground.

Edit: I'd love to see shrimping and scooting and moving around the cage from the ground a la UD3 also.

[Malaach]

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Huh? I know you can do it in the beta, its easy as Hell, my issue is the knocked down player has no control over getting back up during a alert KD, so the player who scored the knockdown can time an unblockable strike that you have no control over.

I know you could do it in UFC 2 as well, but you chose when you got up in UFC 2 so its a risk for getting up in a risky position. It's satisfying to punish people for it.
My issue is in 3, you have no control over certain get ups, and I found it quite easy to time an unblockable head kick while my opponent went through the alert KD animation, it felt cheap as from the moment the animation begins to ends they aren't in control of the fighter.

I'm not saying you shouldn't be at risk getting up when you opponents in range. I'm saying you should be able to choose to stay down off all KDs, not just heavy ones.

As it stands. You can exploit automatic getups to continuously knockdown the opponent until you get a stun KD where you can finish the fight or you get a clean KO. It's not hard to exploit once you know what the KDs look like. Usually by throwing a headkick as they're just getting up and posting up with their arm to come back to fully standing.

I'm not saying the Alert KDs have to go or anything, I like them, but you need to be able to cancel that automatic getup if your opponent is swamping you, or be able to block from the moment your hands are off the ground.

Edit: I'd love to see shrimping and scooting and moving around the cage from the ground a la UD3 also.

I hear you man, I knew exactly what you meant about having the choice to stay down. Kind of like Nate chose to stay down in the McGregor rematch. It's a good idea.

I agree It's easy to hit someone while they're standing back up, but I'm more so talking about actually hitting them while still sitting on the ground its not as easy to hit someone sitting on the ground as it is to hit someone who is trying to stand back up.

Which is why I posted this Bellator FC video of strike combos that transition from Standing into ground game GnP.
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But maybe it's a good thing it's not easy because from the times I tested it in EA UFC 3 it seemed like insta death landing one strike lol.

I like the clip as well because the Bellator FC Knockdown position looks like the new active Knockdown position, in which you were able to stay seated down in that position if you wanted to in that game.

[AeroZeppelin27]

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I hear you man, I knew exactly what you meant about having the choice to stay down. Kind of like Nate chose to stay down in the McGregor rematch. It's a good idea.

I agree It's easy to hit someone while they're standing back up, but I'm more so talking about actually hitting them while still sitting on the ground its not as easy to hit someone sitting on the ground as it is to hit someone who is trying to stand back up.

Which is why I posted this Bellator FC video of strike combos that transition from Standing into ground game GnP.
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But maybe it's a good thing it's not easy because from the times I tested it in EA UFC 3 it seemed like insta death landing one strike lol.

I like the clip as well because the Bellator FC Knockdown position looks like the new active Knockdown position, in which you were able to stay seated down in that position if you wanted to in that game.

Yeah, Diaz McGregor 2 is a good example, or any of Werdums KDs, he usually pretends he's a lot more hurt than he is to get people to dive into that vicious guard.

I'd like fluid transition between standup and ground striking too, I think they've said the FTF states will be a bit easier to survive in retail so I don't think it would be OP personally.

Though I like being able to work the legs of people who lay in guard when they decide to stay down. Usually gets em back up quick, I kinda hope fighters who actually throw Axe kicks can throw them to the body of a downed opponent like in 2, aswell.

Though I've noticed you've really gotta be careful kicking someone when they're down. Get too close and you automatically go to feet-on-hips, when this was happening to me, is let them kick me, as they'd usually accidentally go to feet on hips after 1 or 2 kicks I could quickly ankle sweep them to half guard top and start working them on the ground.

[Malaach]

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Yeah, Diaz McGregor 2 is a good example, or any of Werdums KDs, he usually pretends he's a lot more hurt than he is to get people to dive into that vicious guard.

I'd like fluid transition between standup and ground striking too, I think they've said the FTF states will be a bit easier to survive in retail so I don't think it would be OP personally.

Though I like being able to work the legs of people who lay in guard when they decide to stay down. Usually gets em back up quick, I kinda hope fighters who actually throw Axe kicks can throw them to the body of a downed opponent like in 2, aswell.

Though I've noticed you've really gotta be careful kicking someone when they're down. Get too close and you automatically go to feet-on-hips, when this was happening to me, is let them kick me, as they'd usually accidentally go to feet on hips after 1 or 2 kicks I could quickly ankle sweep them to half guard top and start working them on the ground.

That would be hilarious if someone tried to GnP you after staying down from an active Knockdown, and you baited them in for a submission like Diaz was trying to do to McGregor.

Yeah they should definitely change that and allow it to be optional to stay seated. Did anyone in the beta have an Axe kick? I imagine it would be more lethal this time. Kind of how stacked guard strikes are more quick now.

I guess EA made the game go to feet on hips to make it harder to stay out of range to throw a bunch of leg kicks on a ground opponent.

I wish the beta was back up. I'm having withdrawals man.

[AeroZeppelin27]

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That would be hilarious if someone tried to GnP you after staying down from an active Knockdown, and you baited them in for a submission like Diaz was trying to do to McGregor.

Yeah they should definitely change that and allow it to be optional to stay seated. Did anyone in the beta have an Axe kick? I imagine it would be more lethal this time. Kind of how stacked guard strikes are more quick now.

I guess EA made the game go to feet on hips to make it harder to stay out of range to throw a bunch of leg kicks on a ground opponent.

I wish the beta was back up. I'm having withdrawals man.

It really is, I did that ALL the time in 2 when I got dropped. I'd get dropped, they'd jump on me and next thing you know I'm in mount or they're in a triangle, it was awesome.

No Axe kicks that I could find, could only attack the legs, or dive into guard with a strike (you can upkick someone who does that, same as you could in 2)

The trick with attacking the legs when downed is throw from idle stance, players who got stuck in feet on hips with me were trying to throw step in leg kicks, but the step in puts them into FoHips.

And same, I can't play 2 any more, started a UD3 career cause I saw that UFC 3 is going to have a similar but expanded career mode, super keen, I hope WFA is created fighters and UFC is real fighters only. Hated having the top 15 fill up with CAFs in 2.

[Malaach]

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It really is, I did that ALL the time in 2 when I got dropped. I'd get dropped, they'd jump on me and next thing you know I'm in mount or they're in a triangle, it was awesome.

No Axe kicks that I could find, could only attack the legs, or dive into guard with a strike (you can upkick someone who does that, same as you could in 2)

The trick with attacking the legs when downed is throw from idle stance, players who got stuck in feet on hips with me were trying to throw step in leg kicks, but the step in puts them into FoHips.

And same, I can't play 2 any more, started a UD3 career cause I saw that UFC 3 is going to have a similar but expanded career mode, super keen, I hope WFA is created fighters and UFC is real fighters only. Hated having the top 15 fill up with CAFs in 2.

I bet GSP has an Axe kick. Probably Jon Jones as well. I don't know who would at Lightweight. But that's good to know about the kicking range to prevent feet on hips. I never really had that problem in the beta.

I'm playing UD 3 right now just made a clip about the ground scooting that EA UFC 3 needs to prevent people from gaming the auto stand up from active Knockdowns.

EA UFC 3 is nice though, it's dangerous throwing Flying strikes like this one.

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[AeroZeppelin27]

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I bet GSP has an Axe kick. Probably Jon Jones as well. I don't know who would at Lightweight. But that's good to know about the kicking range to prevent feet on hips. I never really had that problem in the beta.

I'm playing UD 3 right now just made a clip about the ground scooting that EA UFC 3 needs to prevent people from gaming the auto stand up from active Knockdowns.

EA UFC 3 is nice though, it's dangerous throwing Flying strikes like this one.

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Bones, Cro Cop, Rockhold, Saki maybe and a few prospects I forgot the same of are all folk I've seen throw atleast 1 (not in MMA for Saki) so they should, never seen GSP throw one but I haven't seen all his fights.

And yeah, other than the active KD issue and stamina issues I LOVE UFC 3, super keen.

[Malaach]

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Bones, Cro Cop, Rockhold, Saki maybe and a few prospects I forgot the same of are all folk I've seen throw atleast 1 (not in MMA for Saki) so they should, never seen GSP throw one but I haven't seen all his fights.

And yeah, other than the active KD issue and stamina issues I LOVE UFC 3, super keen.

Yeah they would have Standing Axe kicks. GSP would have a ground Axe kick.