Help me help you get better.

[FCB x Finlay]

Re: Help me help you get better.

You were, but you stepped on your own dick. I can see four different things that prevented you from claiming an easy win off that cheeser.

1. You generally had good timing, but you need to make sure you get your punch off first before they start swaying and firing. You got hit and rocked a couple times because you threw your hook just a fraction of a second too late.

2. You didn't let your head health recover all the way. You'd get tagged and then immediately go back to your strategy. With sway combo guys it's a dangerous game so you must make sure you're at full health before heading back into the fray.

3. Your block breaking is horrendous. You threw four 12s in a row at that guy's block. He would've been fried after the first 121 if you would've just thrown a big strike. Which leads into my next point. . .

4. You threw a big strike with next to no stamina and it got you flatlined. Not only did you wait too long and throw too many punches on the guard before you threw the big overhand right, you did it when you were fully drained and he was back from being rocked. You can't do that ever. Not even when they are rocked.

For the block breaker you should do the classic 1212 head kick at the very least. It leaves you open for a counter at the end, but that guy sucked enough that he wouldn't have gotten you with it. You can look at my first reply in this thread for my favorite block breakers though.

Thanks, my block breaking was horrendous that fight.

http://xboxdvr.com/gamer/FCB%20x%20F...video/47184541
that better

[1212headkick]

Re: Help me help you get better.

This is an ask me anything topic without the veneer of sarcasm like the other guy’s thread. I will open up my entire breadth of knowledge to anyone who asks with no snark or condescension. Even to those that do not like me.

From guard breaks to dealing with head movement, if you ask I will give you in depth answers with proper English and grammar. This isn’t a topic to complain about the game, it’s about getting better.

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how do you read strikes and counter properly

[Dave_S]

Re: Help me help you get better.

Well counters are always initiated with a flick.....

Thanks for the assistance, and the thread. I figured out. Must be right stick issue that happens online only for some reason. Works in practice mode against myself.

[xFINISHxHIMx]

Re: Help me help you get better.

That's how you do it without being a D. Take note.

[Evil97]

Re: Help me help you get better.

My stand up is garbage. I need the TG boopy treatment when I get back from my trip.

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[rabbitfistssaipailo]

Re: Help me help you get better.

R monkey ... I mostly play offline ...my pal is a sway spammer and he uses the 1123 to break my block ...you already answered my second question already.

My question is how do you deal with a sway spammer ...I'm not on ps plus so the recent online tuner is of no help for me ?



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[1212headkick]

Re: Help me help you get better.

R monkey ... I mostly play offline ...my pal is a sway spammer and he uses the 1123 to break my block ...you already answered my second question already.

My question is how do you deal with a sway spammer ...I'm not on ps plus so the recent online tuner is of no help for me ?



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throw single hooks and uppercuts when they sway and work the body. abuse back lunge

[RetractedMonkey]

Re: Help me help you get better.

R monkey ... I mostly play offline ...my pal is a sway spammer and he uses the 1123 to break my block ...you already answered my second question already.

My question is how do you deal with a sway spammer ...I'm not on ps plus so the recent online tuner is of no help for me ?



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It's very difficult without the patches and tuners. I don't think you need PS Plus to download the updates. You just need to be online. That's how it is for Xbox I think.

You just need to back lunge over and over to drain his stamina. Throw single hooks and uppercuts while standing still. You can also throw three hooks in a row while standing still if he only comes forward.

Make sure you block and cancel your strike if you get hit. Honestly, I wouldn't even play the game if I didn't have any of the patches or tuners.

[bmlimo]

Re: Help me help you get better.

What to do against over aggressive clinch spammer guys?(AKA D.C players)

[RetractedMonkey]

Re: Help me help you get better.

What to do against over aggressive clinch spammer guys?(AKA D.C players)

You have to basically hover your right thumb on the right stick and always be ready to deny. It will lessen your offensive capabilities but it's okay because you should also be throwing way less strikes. Circle out and keep your distance. Pepper them with straight punches to the head and body and use the lead body hook.

Use these combos:

1
12
112
1-2-3
1-2-3body
1-2body
1-rear uppercut
Lead uppercut - rear hook


Just gotta be careful and patient.

[Boiler569]

Re: Help me help you get better.

Do you have any block-breaking combos that start with 3 round strikes?

I've tried Lead Hook - Rear Hook - Lead Hook - Rear Uppercut and assume that's the 'best' combo starting with 3-round strikes there is, but haven't really had much success.

Same with Lead Hook - Rear Hook - Lead Hook - Rear Straight

I'm able to break the block down pretty well but not get much damage. Seems my stamina is pretty gassed after the three round strikes, so any straight strikes thereafter are pretty weak.

Is there even a reason to throw a block-breaking combo starting with 3 round strikes?......starting with 3 straight strikes is always better it seems.....both in terms of stamina cost as well as speed....do you agree?

If so, do you think round strike block-breaking needs a boost (or straight strike block breaking needs nerf of some sort?)

[RetractedMonkey]

Re: Help me help you get better.

Do you have any block-breaking combos that start with 3 round strikes?

I've tried Lead Hook - Rear Hook - Lead Hook - Rear Uppercut and assume that's the 'best' combo starting with 3-round strikes there is, but haven't really had much success.

Same with Lead Hook - Rear Hook - Lead Hook - Rear Straight

I'm able to break the block down pretty well but not get much damage. Seems my stamina is pretty gassed after the three round strikes, so any straight strikes thereafter are pretty weak.

Is there even a reason to throw a block-breaking combo starting with 3 round strikes?......starting with 3 straight strikes is always better it seems.....both in terms of stamina cost as well as speed....do you agree?

If so, do you think round strike block-breaking needs a boost (or straight strike block breaking needs nerf of some sort?)

I would say there's almost no reason to start a block break with round strikes. If you think about it, round strikes are your power strikes, they cost more stamina and do more damage. Why would you want muffle that damage up front? The only reason you'd combo like that is if you went for three hooks and the guy blocked them. Then you could do a double upper combo for some good damage on someone who isn't rocked and just holding their guard up.

Round strikes also leave you open for ducks which is the favorite go to lean when rocked. No reason to reinvent the wheel. Stick with what works.

[1212headkick]

Re: Help me help you get better.

what are the best combos to mix it up to the head and body?? how do you not be predictable

[Abstrakt fists]

Re: Help me help you get better.

what are the best combos to mix it up to the head and body?? how do you not be predictable

I am not as good as retracted but I will throw in some thoughts here.


1-2body
1-1-2body
1-2-1body
1-2-3body

Mix in the body kick if they aren't blocking low. Mostly use 2-3 shot combos that end with a body shot.

Not being predictable is the secret sauce. You have to think of each time you engage as almost a separate battle. On some level it is rock, paper, scissors because most the stand up is predictive rather than reactive. If you pick rock everytime then I will start picking paper everytime. For example people who always lead with the leg kick will get checked after a few engagements. Usually people mix it up, but most people fall into a rhythm and repeat a cycle. Rock, then scissors, then paper and repeat. An example is the heavy head movement people, most sway left throw a hook, sway right throw a hook, duck and uppercut. So against them you learn to hook when they sway and uppercut when they duck because you learn the pattern.

The secret to not being predictable is to not have a pattern. Don't do things the same way or the same order. Lead with different strikes, do the same thing twice in a row (but not 3 times), mix in the crazy spinning stuff from time to time just so it is in their head. You have to get them defending against the wrong strikes. Make them think a leg kick is coming and throw a head kick. Pretend to be predictable, throw the same pattern a few times and then change it when they think they have you down.

I am sure retracted will have some good thoughts to add but those are my 2 cents.

[RetractedMonkey]

Re: Help me help you get better.

what are the best combos to mix it up to the head and body?? how do you not be predictable

1-2body is the meta favorite at this point. It's fast and accurate.

1-2-3body Is great for when your opponent shells up. The body hook hits almost every time.

1-3body for if your opponent doesn't start blocking their body. Gets rid of the second punch that their block will absorb, saving you time and stamina.

1-rear uppercut This one has surprising range and is more damaging than a straight punch.

2body-3body It is fast and does good stamina damage. Also less predictable than the classic 1body-2body. Throwing that after the speed nerf tends to get you caught with uppercuts.

1body-lead hook fast and great to mix it up with

3body-lead hook Throw this one standing still when you know your opponent is up in your face and done throwing punches.

1body-overhand Once you get them thinking about blocking the body, you can start cracking them with overhands. Works well standing still or moving.

2body-head kick This one is best thrown standing still. If you've worked all your other combos, your opponent should be in a rhythm trying to block their body. So it leaves their head wide open for a super fast head kick.

The key to landing body kicks is standing still and throwing a straight before them. It has beta level body kick combo speed. You can even throw a 1-2 and then body kick. Just make sure the straight comes out last before the body kick (either direction). The body kick has so much range, you can get away with throwing it standing still at a distance.