Help me help you get better.

[Dave_S]

Re: Help me help you get better.

How i typically play, any pointers? (Besides the denials, I gave most of those up on purpose since dude invited me)

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[Boiler569]

Re: Help me help you get better.

I would say there's almost no reason to start a block break with round strikes. If you think about it, round strikes are your power strikes, they cost more stamina and do more damage. Why would you want muffle that damage up front? The only reason you'd combo like that is if you went for three hooks and the guy blocked them. Then you could do a double upper combo for some good damage on someone who isn't rocked and just holding their guard up.

Round strikes also leave you open for ducks which is the favorite go to lean when rocked. No reason to reinvent the wheel. Stick with what works.

Cool thx, yea I agree.

I think this is unfortunate and wish it were changed somehow. Maybe two round strikes break down block as much as three straight strikes or something. idk.

I don't want super volume fighters to cut thru my guard like butter but dang....no reason to even throw round-round-round strikes to start block-break. Just makes block-breaking even more static (and IMO gimmicky) than I thought it was :/

[SteveM584]

Re: Help me help you get better.

How i typically play, any pointers? (Besides the denials, I gave most of those up on purpose since dude invited me)

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Post a match with a resisting opponent if you want real pointers on how to improve.

[Poulpy]

Re: Help me help you get better.

1. I will always keep my block up during the first rock. This allows me to gauge my opponent’s patterns and determine if he knows how to block break. If he doesn’t, I hold block and wait. If he does: if the combo starts with a 12 and then I get hit with another straight punch, I immediately duck and hold it there for a good second. If the guy is throwing different angles strikes, I pick a lean direction and pray. If you make him miss even one strike you can go back to blocking with impunity. That’s the number one mistake I see with swaying during block breaks. They do it for the duration of the rock and end up getting KOed. Just slip one punch and hold on block.

2. If the opponent isn’t rocked: 1123, 1212 headkick

If he is rocked: Here is the ancient block breaking technique passed down by our forefathers - 16 134 No one sees the block break coming because it doesn’t start with a 12 and it doesn’t end with a big strike like an overhand or headkick, limiting your chance of getting countered and KOed. If you’ve rocked and block broken your opponent at least once, this block breaker is almost always going to drop them. During the first rock sequence of the fight I will add a punch onto the combo - 16 1234. Eventually if they haven’t been KOed yet, you can do a simple 1234 combo and they are likely to be knocked out on the way down, bypassing the whole FTF sequence.

3. Never did. Honestly, if I’m fighting someone that I know if going to clinch me, I hover around the right stick with my right thumb. You sacrifice some striking ability but you’re better off overall. Also, I throw a lower output of strikes and stick to two punch combos while forcing distance with jabs and movement.

4. Sounds condescending but I generally don’t lose that often, at least not enough to build a streak, but I would imagine going to quick match instead of ranked might be a little less frustrating for you.


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Thats very interesting, im stuck in top 500/1000 and can't move up since a while.

Im bad at break block, only thing who work for me is straight right, right high kick or jab spinning side kick but it make me vulnerable against good player.

I want to try what you say but i dont understand all the number.. like 16 1234 or other number in this thread.

Also for ground game on my grappler i have a jjb transition lvl2 from bizzaro pack. Video of the move show you can pass from full guard to side control but i cant make it work after 2 or 3 deny and big stamina advantage. ( have wrestling lvl 3 equipped too)
Also i put jjb and wrestling sweep but if i want a sweep from the bottom, i always do the jjb move. How i can choose ? Khabib have bbj and wrestling move : same problem..

[xtremeba1000]

Re: Help me help you get better.

1. I will always keep my block up during the first rock. This allows me to gauge my opponent’s patterns and determine if he knows how to block break. If he doesn’t, I hold block and wait. If he does: if the combo starts with a 12 and then I get hit with another straight punch, I immediately duck and hold it there for a good second. If the guy is throwing different angles strikes, I pick a lean direction and pray. If you make him miss even one strike you can go back to blocking with impunity. That’s the number one mistake I see with swaying during block breaks. They do it for the duration of the rock and end up getting KOed. Just slip one punch and hold on block.

2. If the opponent isn’t rocked: 1123, 1212 headkick

If he is rocked: Here is the ancient block breaking technique passed down by our forefathers - 16 134 No one sees the block break coming because it doesn’t start with a 12 and it doesn’t end with a big strike like an overhand or headkick, limiting your chance of getting countered and KOed. If you’ve rocked and block broken your opponent at least once, this block breaker is almost always going to drop them. During the first rock sequence of the fight I will add a punch onto the combo - 16 1234. Eventually if they haven’t been KOed yet, you can do a simple 1234 combo and they are likely to be knocked out on the way down, bypassing the whole FTF sequence.

3. Never did. Honestly, if I’m fighting someone that I know if going to clinch me, I hover around the right stick with my right thumb. You sacrifice some striking ability but you’re better off overall. Also, I throw a lower output of strikes and stick to two punch combos while forcing distance with jabs and movement.

4. Sounds condescending but I generally don’t lose that often, at least not enough to build a streak, but I would imagine going to quick match instead of ranked might be a little less frustrating for you.


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I forgot to ask this before, can you explain the 1-6 1-3-4 combo?
I know its Jab-____? Jab-Lead hook- Rear uppercut.
Is 6 a rear hook ?

[Nugget7211]

Re: Help me help you get better.

I forgot to ask this before, can you explain the 1-6 1-3-4 combo?
I know its Jab-____? Jab-Lead hook- Rear uppercut.
Is 6 a rear hook ?

6 is a rear uppercut, 4 is rear hook. That combination is jab, rear uppercut, jab, lead hook rear hook.

The full breakdown is:

1-Jab
2-Straight
3-Lead hook
4-rear hook
5-lead uppercut
6-rear uppercut
7-lead overhand
8-rear overhand
9-lead round kick
10-rear round kick

Not everyone uses 9 and 10 for kicks, but my coach/gym does.

[xtremeba1000]

Re: Help me help you get better.

6 is a rear uppercut, 4 is rear hook. That combination is jab, rear uppercut, jab, lead hook rear hook.

The full breakdown is:

1-Jab
2-Straight
3-Lead hook
4-rear hook
5-lead uppercut
6-rear uppercut
7-lead overhand
8-rear overhand
9-lead round kick
10-rear round kick

Not everyone uses 9 and 10 for kicks, but my coach/gym does.

Wow, that is totally different then the mma gyms in Texas i've been to, thanks for the info

[Nugget7211]

Re: Help me help you get better.

Wow, that is totally different then the mma gyms in Texas i've been to, thanks for the info

Some places would use 7-8 for push kicks, it varies a lot, but that's a good general MMA number system.

[Dave_S]

Re: Help me help you get better.

6 is a rear uppercut, 4 is rear hook. That combination is jab, rear uppercut, jab, lead hook rear hook.

The full breakdown is:

1-Jab
2-Straight
3-Lead hook
4-rear hook
5-lead uppercut
6-rear uppercut
7-lead overhand
8-rear overhand
9-lead round kick
10-rear round kick

Not everyone uses 9 and 10 for kicks, but my coach/gym does.

Is accurate for ufc 3? I was searching numbers a while ago and found a lot of variation from gymnasiums and disciplines.

[Nugget7211]

Re: Help me help you get better.

Is accurate for ufc 3? I was searching numbers a while ago and found a lot of variation from gymnasiums and disciplines.

It's always going to vary a little person to person, but the first 6 are basically universal, or as close as you're really going to get.

[rabbitfistssaipailo]

Re: Help me help you get better.

R monkey. ..any tips for fighting in South paw ...I kind of find it hard to launch offense ...and I tend to switch to orthodox .

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[Abstrakt fists]

Re: Help me help you get better.

It's always going to vary a little person to person, but the first 6 are basically universal, or as close as you're really going to get.

Yep, first 6 are from boxing so they have always been the same. The rest you get into more discipline specific moves like kicks, knees and elbows. So depending on what the discipline uses the rest will vary. Especially since the stand up coaches in MMA come from so many different backgrounds. Muay thai you need knee and elbow numbers, tai kwon do has no punches Etc..

[xFINISHxHIMx]

Re: Help me help you get better.

Is it even possible to duck or sway away against Hook spam? I use back lunge but not even that is getting away fast enough all the time. It works sometimes when I have distance on him but not always.

I can't figure this out.

[HereticGabriel]

Re: Help me help you get better.

Aside from outgrappling someone in clinch, how do you effectively punish someone spamming or constantly going for it? I find trying to throw a counter shot after the deny takes too long and they can block, same with the takedown deny that shoves them to the side...

[Dave_S]

Re: Help me help you get better.

Is it even possible to duck or sway away against Hook spam? I use back lunge but not even that is getting away fast enough all the time. It works sometimes when I have distance on him but not always.

I can't figure this out.

I'm not retracted, but I don't really try to sway against hooks. I block, duck, and lunge backwards.