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  • Evil97
    MVP
    • Apr 2016
    • 1099

    #16
    Re: Quitting shouldn’t cost 30 points

    Well said boopy
    Last edited by Evil97; 12-27-2018, 06:42 PM.

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    • bmlimo
      MVP
      • Apr 2016
      • 1123

      #17
      Re: Quitting shouldn’t cost 30 points

      Im also in favor of lagger being kicked faster, laggers are a cancer they have to be discourage to play online

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      • FlaccoNumba5
        Rookie
        • Nov 2016
        • 345

        #18
        Re: Quitting shouldn’t cost 30 points

        grown men ragequitting out video games kills me

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        • HereticFighter
          Rookie
          • May 2018
          • 421

          #19
          Re: Quitting shouldn’t cost 30 points

          Originally posted by FlaccoNumba5
          grown men ragequitting out video games kills me
          Grown men saying that it HURTS them is quite frankly ridiculous. Its a game guys. There are many parts of playing this game that take away from the experience and thats just the game. Its glitchy, its a mess sometimes, you get knocked out by a punch that misses by 8 inches and lotsa people rage quit... But man sometimes its great fun.

          Grow up guys come on this is getting silly.

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          • Good Grappler
            Pro
            • May 2018
            • 615

            #20
            Re: Quitting shouldn’t cost 30 points

            It shouldn’t even be called “rage” quitting. There’s too much ego surrounding the subject of quitting.

            When some quits, they’re simply saying,
            “Ok, you’re way better than me. I have no chance of winning this. In fact, this isn’t even competitive, and I have no interest in continuing this matchup. It’s a foregone conclusion, and I don’t want to waste anymore of your time, because frankly this is unenjoyable for me. So, I give up. You win, well done. Let’s both move on to another fight, where hopefully we both find a more enjoyable matchup.”

            But instead people are all like “haha this tryhard just quit. He’s such a loser. He tried so hard, then quit when it didn’t go his way. He should be banned.”

            Like WTF? Where’s this negative attitude come from? So when you’re rolling in BJJ and your opponent taps, do you look down on them as a “rage quitter”? Did they “deprive you of the experience”? No, they tapped. It’s over, out of mind. Should be the same with MMA gaming. You still get the points, you still get the W. You guys act like by quitting, the player is automatically some bad human being worthy of some form of penalty. It’s not like that at all... it’s a verbal submission. Acknowledgement of defeat.

            “Rage quitting” is a term for players who leave games in a way that either negatively impacts other players, or with a motive to avoid some sort of outcome. That doesn’t exist in this game.
            Xbox GT: the relaxed guy

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            • HereticFighter
              Rookie
              • May 2018
              • 421

              #21
              Re: Quitting shouldn’t cost 30 points

              Originally posted by Good Grappler
              It shouldn’t even be called “rage” quitting. There’s too much ego surrounding the subject of quitting.

              When some quits, they’re simply saying,
              “Ok, you’re way better than me. I have no chance of winning this. In fact, this isn’t even competitive, and I have no interest in continuing this matchup. It’s a foregone conclusion, and I don’t want to waste anymore of your time, because frankly this is unenjoyable for me. So, I give up. You win, well done. Let’s both move on to another fight, where hopefully we both find a more enjoyable matchup.”

              But instead people are all like “haha this tryhard just quit. He’s such a loser. He tried so hard, then quit when it didn’t go his way. He should be banned.”

              Like WTF? Where’s this negative attitude come from? So when you’re rolling in BJJ and your opponent taps, do you look down on them as a “rage quitter”? Did they “deprive you of the experience”? No, they tapped. It’s over, out of mind. Should be the same with MMA gaming. You still get the points, you still get the W. You guys act like by quitting, the player is automatically some bad human being worthy of some form of penalty. It’s not like that at all... it’s a verbal submission. Acknowledgement of defeat.

              “Rage quitting” is a term for players who leave games in a way that either negatively impacts other players, or with a motive to avoid some sort of outcome. That doesn’t exist in this game.
              i disagree with that, most people quit after i knock them out or tap them. Thats a rage quit.

              I just find it hilarious

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              • Good Grappler
                Pro
                • May 2018
                • 615

                #22
                Re: Quitting shouldn’t cost 30 points

                Originally posted by HereticFighter
                i disagree with that, most people quit after i knock them out or tap them. Thats a rage quit.

                I just find it hilarious
                Well that’s different, and obviously not what I’m referring to at all.

                More people have rage quit against me than anyone else in history. I’ve had all 10 fights in my fight history say I won by “DNF” before (seriously, I have a screenshot). I’ve encountered the type of impulse quits you’re referring to plenty of times. I don’t even think about those anymore, it’s just a part of the game for me.

                I’m talking about the quits that are middle of a round, as a result of reaching a point where winning is impossible, yet there’s still several minutes left in the fight.

                If you’re on Xbox, I can show you what that feels like. We can run a 5 rounder, should be an educational experience for you. I’m sure you’ll be contemplating all your options by the end of round 3.
                Xbox GT: the relaxed guy

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                • ryangil23
                  Rookie
                  • May 2016
                  • 418

                  #23
                  Re: Quitting shouldn’t cost 30 points

                  Sometimes if I'm up against someone who plays in a spammy way or are just annoying in some way and I end up in a position where they are severely damage from and have low stamina, I'll toy with them and purposely not try and finish them. I want them to quit. If they don't then they are just wasting their time and that's fine with me as well.

                  I don't mind if someone quits on me though. I'm all about maximising time (although I make sure exceptions for scumbags like I said above). Once someone has already been knocked down a few times and have low stamina, the match is already over to me. All I want is to get it over with and move on to the next match. If they quit and save me time so I can have more time in other matches where I can learn and get better then I'm all for it.

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                  • Kingslayer04
                    MVP
                    • Dec 2017
                    • 1482

                    #24
                    Re: Quitting shouldn’t cost 30 points

                    Originally posted by Good Grappler
                    Well that’s different, and obviously not what I’m referring to at all.

                    More people have rage quit against me than anyone else in history. I’ve had all 10 fights in my fight history say I won by “DNF” before (seriously, I have a screenshot). I’ve encountered the type of impulse quits you’re referring to plenty of times. I don’t even think about those anymore, it’s just a part of the game for me.

                    I’m talking about the quits that are middle of a round, as a result of reaching a point where winning is impossible, yet there’s still several minutes left in the fight.

                    If you’re on Xbox, I can show you what that feels like. We can run a 5 rounder, should be an educational experience for you. I’m sure you’ll be contemplating all your options by the end of round 3.
                    Another thing that I feel contributes to all of this is the fact that the game allows for 10 knockdowns per fight and the dominating player takes his time, refuses to end it and keeps dropping them again and again with no follow-up... I've always found this so immersion breaking. Ref should get in there after like the 3rd KD and stop it, TKO. These things (i.e. damage and stoppages) should really be revisited for UFC 4.

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                    • bmlimo
                      MVP
                      • Apr 2016
                      • 1123

                      #25
                      Re: Quitting shouldn’t cost 30 points

                      Originally posted by Good Grappler
                      Well that’s different, and obviously not what I’m referring to at all.

                      More people have rage quit against me than anyone else in history. I’ve had all 10 fights in my fight history say I won by “DNF” before (seriously, I have a screenshot). I’ve encountered the type of impulse quits you’re referring to plenty of times. I don’t even think about those anymore, it’s just a part of the game for me.

                      I’m talking about the quits that are middle of a round, as a result of reaching a point where winning is impossible, yet there’s still several minutes left in the fight.

                      If you’re on Xbox, I can show you what that feels like. We can run a 5 rounder, should be an educational experience for you. I’m sure you’ll be contemplating all your options by the end of round 3.
                      Sound like heavy lay n pray kkk

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                      • Blackman316
                        Pro
                        • Jan 2018
                        • 820

                        #26
                        Re: Quitting shouldn’t cost 30 points

                        I see your point, but this caused me to never touch UT anymore in EAUFC2 after the first week. People would just quit when you take them down and you would NEVER get your dailies. Still haven't touched it in EAUFC3.


                        It's different in cardgames, for instance, where you can just move on when you know you're beat. Here a lucky punch could still win you the game.

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                        • Supreme_Bananas
                          Pro
                          • Apr 2016
                          • 944

                          #27
                          Re: Quitting shouldn’t cost 30 points

                          Originally posted by Blackman316
                          I see your point, but this caused me to never touch UT anymore in EAUFC2 after the first week. People would just quit when you take them down and you would NEVER get your dailies. Still haven't touched it in EAUFC3.


                          It's different in cardgames, for instance, where you can just move on when you know you're beat. Here a lucky punch could still win you the game.
                          You're not missing anything by not playing UT. The reliance on even more cards pack is so big that you just spend hours on not getting moves and boosts, but also high ranked fighters to put them on à la FIFA. At higher levels every single fighter has the exact same moves and stats, it's boring.

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                          • HereticFighter
                            Rookie
                            • May 2018
                            • 421

                            #28
                            Re: Quitting shouldn’t cost 30 points

                            Originally posted by Good Grappler
                            Well that’s different, and obviously not what I’m referring to at all.

                            More people have rage quit against me than anyone else in history. I’ve had all 10 fights in my fight history say I won by “DNF” before (seriously, I have a screenshot). I’ve encountered the type of impulse quits you’re referring to plenty of times. I don’t even think about those anymore, it’s just a part of the game for me.

                            I’m talking about the quits that are middle of a round, as a result of reaching a point where winning is impossible, yet there’s still several minutes left in the fight.

                            If you’re on Xbox, I can show you what that feels like. We can run a 5 rounder, should be an educational experience for you. I’m sure you’ll be contemplating all your options by the end of round 3.
                            The most i've had is 7 out of 10 wins in a row DNF heh. No i don't have xbox i'm on ps4. I've fought lots of good grapplers. G_O_A_T_1099 is no joke on the ground. He will hold most people in side control and **** you to no end. Still takes him 4 rounds to finish me. And i don't quit like a bitch.

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                            • TheGentlemanGhost
                              MVP
                              • Jun 2016
                              • 1321

                              #29
                              Re: Quitting shouldn’t cost 30 points

                              Originally posted by Good Grappler
                              You guys are missing the point entirely.

                              The argument about it being “unrealistic” is invalid. In real life, there are fans to please. Tickets to sell. Quitting would not only tarnish your legacy, but deprive the fans and kill your drawing power.

                              In a videogame, all you play for is the W, because there are no fans to entertain. So quitting doesn’t negatively impact anyone. If your opponent says “I’m done” and forfeits the match, all it does is save you time. You can take your W and move on to the next match.

                              I mean, it’s an MMA game. Making your opponent want to quit is part of the strategy sometimes. I do this all the time, and I get to this point where I can just sense the quit coming. It doesn’t bother me at all, that was my strategy. I wanted them to quit, just saves me the added effort.

                              I just don’t understand the problem. It’s not like a multiplayer game where if someone quits it ****s everyone else over. Its a one vs one combat game. If one person quits, the other gets the W.

                              Edit: it would be nice if there were bonus points for making an opponent quit, but the massive penalty for quitting is unnecessary. It’s not like you hurt anyone by quitting, all you do is save your opponent time. Plus, when the server disconnects, it’s pretty lame to get such massive penalty. A server disconnect is actually what prompted this whole post.
                              I think it also effects your rewards in UT though, but I'm not sure. I haven't exactly been frequenting that mode in this game unlike in UFC 2...bad they butchered that mode.

                              Plus with the way they do perks & etc, I think they go to waste and counted off. If so, I wouldn't mind a free basic pack if certain goals are cut short on top of DNF not going against your perks & bonuses.

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                              • TheGentlemanGhost
                                MVP
                                • Jun 2016
                                • 1321

                                #30
                                Re: Quitting shouldn’t cost 30 points

                                Originally posted by Kingslayer04
                                Another thing that I feel contributes to all of this is the fact that the game allows for 10 knockdowns per fight and the dominating player takes his time, refuses to end it and keeps dropping them again and again with no follow-up... I've always found this so immersion breaking. Ref should get in there after like the 3rd KD and stop it, TKO. These things (i.e. damage and stoppages) should really be revisited for UFC 4.
                                I can't lie, I do this to pressure fighters who just keep pressuring lol, or Conor players. But the KDs are ridiculous.

                                But when it happens to me, it always starts early with crazy rocks, but I never once even thought about quitting. I just don't get the logic of rage quitting, just reflex and take the beating, maybe they can time a few good head kicks to equalize the match at some point, who knows what can happen.

                                Sent from my SM-J700P using Operation Sports mobile app

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