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  • Haz_____
    Banned
    • Aug 2018
    • 299

    #46
    Re: Quitting shouldn’t cost 30 points

    Originally posted by GrimLeiper
    Why do other games ban matchmaking after quitting from ranked?
    Most other games that do bans for quitting are team multiplayer games where if you quit you ruin the game for your teamates, and most likely cause them to lose.

    Significant difference from quitting a UFC 3 match.

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    • GrimLeiper
      Rookie
      • Nov 2016
      • 353

      #47
      Re: Quitting shouldn’t cost 30 points

      Originally posted by Haz_____
      Most other games that do bans for quitting are team multiplayer games where if you quit you ruin the game for your teamates, and most likely cause them to lose.

      Significant difference from quitting a UFC 3 match.
      So why should my experience be cut short because the other player realises it's going to be a tough fight and can't be bothered?

      And why should we cater to this defeatist attitude?

      I play the game to play the game. Whether it's a team game or not, quitting early ruins my experience. But that's okay I guess, because it's not a team multi-player.



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      • HereticFighter
        Rookie
        • May 2018
        • 421

        #48
        Re: Quitting shouldn’t cost 30 points

        Originally posted by GrimLeiper
        So why should my experience be cut short because the other player realises it's going to be a tough fight and can't be bothered?

        And why should we cater to this defeatist attitude?

        I play the game to play the game. Whether it's a team game or not, quitting early ruins my experience. But that's okay I guess, because it's not a team multi-player.



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        Here's the thing, you're never going to stop it. Even if you couldn't quit in game people would just close the application. I look at it as the ultimate win, bitch can't even keep fighting and just gave up.

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        • tomitomitomi
          Pro
          • Mar 2018
          • 987

          #49
          Re: Quitting shouldn’t cost 30 points

          Originally posted by GrimLeiper
          Why should they cater to people who quit early? Why do other games ban matchmaking after quitting from ranked? Why should my experience be ended prematurely because someone else can't be bothered?

          This isn't working out for me... bye.

          Why do other games give the option to surrender? The games you are thinking of are multiplayer games where one person abandoning the game harms his team. You are acting like you are the victim as if you can't just find another match in 2 minutes.

          Like HereticFighter said, people are going to rage quit regardless. Even if you implemented extremely harsh penalties for quitting (which would then screw people who have to quit due to an emergency or bad internet etc) then your opponent would just drop the controller and let you do what you want. You'd think that still deprives you of your precious gaming enjoyment.
          Last edited by tomitomitomi; 12-31-2018, 11:40 PM.
          ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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          • FlaccoNumba5
            Rookie
            • Nov 2016
            • 345

            #50
            Re: Quitting shouldn’t cost 30 points

            If someone quit idc really. What irks me is not getting the amount of points I would’ve if my opponent didn’t quit. Would really appreciate that being changed in the future

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            • RomeroXVII
              MVP
              • May 2018
              • 1663

              #51
              Re: Quitting shouldn’t cost 30 points

              Originally posted by FlaccoNumba5
              If someone quit idc really. What irks me is not getting the amount of points I would’ve if my opponent didn’t quit. Would really appreciate that being changed in the future
              Especially how annoying it is to gather points the higher you're ranked. I'll lose 20 pts to a Max Holloway if I use Ricardo Lamas or Jose Aldo, but if I were to win that bout I would only get 4-5 points, it's absurd. Not to mention, if they rage quit, you get 1 or 2 points.
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              • HereticFighter
                Rookie
                • May 2018
                • 421

                #52
                Re: Quitting shouldn’t cost 30 points

                Originally posted by RomeroXVII
                Especially how annoying it is to gather points the higher you're ranked. I'll lose 20 pts to a Max Holloway if I use Ricardo Lamas or Jose Aldo, but if I were to win that bout I would only get 4-5 points, it's absurd. Not to mention, if they rage quit, you get 1 or 2 points.
                I think thats really a function of how high your score is vs the other player. Even the rage quit part. I've had guys rage quit and i still get 10+ points. I would guess that these guys i'm probably close in rank so i get basically the normal amount.

                You probably get 1 or 2 points because they DNF all the time and have a low score.

                Do you actually notice a different points amount if the SAME person quits vs finishes the fight? It kinda seems like you only get 1-2 vs those guys cause they probably have a score of like 1000 or less from constant rage-quitting.

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                • RomeroXVII
                  MVP
                  • May 2018
                  • 1663

                  #53
                  Re: Quitting shouldn’t cost 30 points

                  Originally posted by HereticFighter
                  I think thats really a function of how high your score is vs the other player. Even the rage quit part. I've had guys rage quit and i still get 10+ points. I would guess that these guys i'm probably close in rank so i get basically the normal amount.

                  You probably get 1 or 2 points because they DNF all the time and have a low score.

                  Do you actually notice a different points amount if the SAME person quits vs finishes the fight? It kinda seems like you only get 1-2 vs those guys cause they probably have a score of like 1000 or less from constant rage-quitting.
                  No my guy. I've fought people who are ranked relatively close to where I was ranked, or even higher, and still got less points. The dude BoomXhakaLaka rage quit last time we fought, he was ranked #15, I was #75, and I only got 4 points.

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                  • HereticFighter
                    Rookie
                    • May 2018
                    • 421

                    #54
                    Re: Quitting shouldn’t cost 30 points

                    Originally posted by RomeroXVII
                    No my guy. I've fought people who are ranked relatively close to where I was ranked, or even higher, and still got less points. The dude BoomXhakaLaka rage quit last time we fought, he was ranked #15, I was #75, and I only got 4 points.

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                    Really... thats pretty dumb. I've got one guy that literally quits at the tale of the tape screen when he sees its me. I'm sure i got 8-10 points last time someone rage quit mid fight. He also sent me a very salty message lol.

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                    • HereticFighter
                      Rookie
                      • May 2018
                      • 421

                      #55
                      Re: Quitting shouldn’t cost 30 points

                      Surely they could fix that points issue. Maybe make DNF give you a few extra even?

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                      • Good Grappler
                        Pro
                        • May 2018
                        • 615

                        #56
                        Re: Quitting shouldn’t cost 30 points

                        I’ve changed my mind on the subject, now that I’ve learned how the winner actually does get jixed out of proper point allotment.

                        So I’ll say that the 30 pts is fair, assuming the winner doesn’t get full points for the W.

                        If the winner DOES get full points, 30 is too much, because
                        A) it’s a harsh punishment in the event that you legitimately lose connection/have to leave, etc and
                        B) forfeiting should be a viable outcome for a 1v1 combat sports game. Winning via forfeit should simply be an outcome which shows that you’ve mentally demoralized your opponent. Losing by forfeit should be a humiliating, yet real option when you’re getting dominated. Simply allow proper point allotment, and accompanying animations.

                        I mean if I’m taking a dude down over and over again, he can’t get anything going, and he just rages and taps, that’s fine with me. Show his character shake his head in rage, and leave with his tail tucked.
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                        • Good Grappler
                          Pro
                          • May 2018
                          • 615

                          #57
                          Re: Quitting shouldn’t cost 30 points

                          This reminds me of a match between Afro and Advanced BZ back on UFC 2. I was in the party.

                          Advanced was holding Afro on the ground, laying in his guard, doing no damage. So at one point Afro just dropped his controller and left the room, so Advanced could just finish the fight. But when he came back ten minutes later he still lost a decision.

                          As funny as it was, it still goes to show, there are times when quitting is acceptable.
                          Last edited by Good Grappler; 01-01-2019, 05:51 PM. Reason: Incorrect info
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                          • Painless taken
                            Banned
                            • Sep 2018
                            • 290

                            #58
                            Re: Quitting shouldn’t cost 30 points

                            I don’t even think the point load is severe enough. What do they mean outside division placement which doesn’t matter since you face people from all divisions anyway? They need to have hour + bans like many other competitive game.

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                            • BigSmoke
                              Rookie
                              • Oct 2018
                              • 148

                              #59
                              Re: Quitting shouldn’t cost 30 points

                              I dunno I'm kinda conflicted on this, on one hand I hate it when people quit fights against me, on the other I can't wait to smash that MF'in quit button if I see I'm stuck in a laggy game which shouldn't cost 30 points to quit because I'd rather not slog through a fight that literally takes twice as long as it should getting frustrated wasting my time against opponents who most likely play under those conditions all day.

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                              • Brutha_E
                                Rookie
                                • Jan 2019
                                • 5

                                #60
                                Re: Quitting shouldn’t cost 30 points

                                The flipside is when players are dominant on the standup, then get taken down and quit after a few transition denials. That sucks. It's like "I fought hard and survived your onslaught to get you to the ground, now the tables are turned and you quit". Now I understand it's only a video game and I'm not really bothered (anymore) but it can be a little frustrating at times. A point deduction is a way of saying quitting is not good. Now what I don't mind is someone quitting as soon as they get the L.

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