What determines a 10-8 grappling round?

[Phillyboi207]

Re: What determines a 10-8 grappling round?

You could theoretically let your opponent get a few gates to get a better position once you escape so the gates are not entirely accurate. Even then you lose position on most failed submission attempts so practically speaking I do not think you can get 10-8s purely based on submission attempts in the current state of the game.

Fighters do that irl tho

I’ve seen someone like Jake Shields or Ben Henderson put their neck out there to trick their opp into dropping for a guillotine just to get top position.

But hopefully UFC4 has transition based subs so it’ll be much easier to score more successful sub attempts

[Lauriedr1ver]

Re: What determines a 10-8 grappling round?

You can't manually drop though.

You can predict it though, you get rocked and you let a jab hit you, basically works the same. Plus if you are waiting for a later gate to actually escape there better be time left you so can actually do some damage otherwise doing that is pointless.

So yes I believe using later gates as a metric for damage for subs is what should be used.

[tomitomitomi]

Re: What determines a 10-8 grappling round?

Fighters do that irl tho

I’ve seen someone like Jake Shields or Ben Henderson put their neck out there to trick their opp into dropping for a guillotine just to get top position.

But hopefully UFC4 has transition based subs so it’ll be much easier to score more successful sub attempts

But the game in its current state doesn't recognize which submissions are genuine and which ones are like that which is why I wouldn't put much emphasis on submission attempts right now.

You can predict it though, you get rocked and you let a jab hit you, basically works the same.

Fighters do not let their opponents rock or knock them down. They may butt scoot to play possum but that also is not a mechanic at the moment.

[RomeroXVII]

Re: What determines a 10-8 grappling round?

But the game in its current state doesn't recognize which submissions are genuine and which ones are like that which is why I wouldn't put much emphasis on submission attempts right now.



Fighters do not let their opponents rock or knock them down. They may butt scoot to play possum but that also is not a mechanic at the moment.

Imagine, 'Here, I'll let you knock me down'

NOW YOU'VE FALLEN INTO MY TRAP!

[Lauriedr1ver]

Re: What determines a 10-8 grappling round?

Imagine, 'Here, I'll let you knock me down'

NOW YOU'VE FALLEN INTO MY TRAP!

You honestly never done that? It's a hail Mary when your a grapples and works ngl.

[RomeroXVII]

Re: What determines a 10-8 grappling round?

You honestly never done that? It's a hail Mary when your a grapples and works ngl.

I wouldn't LET myself take a concussive hit just to go on the ground, that's ludicrous.

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[Lauriedr1ver]

Re: What determines a 10-8 grappling round?

I wouldn't LET myself take a concussive hit just to go on the ground, that's ludicrous.

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Well rocks mean nothing in this game so why not. I've won at least 4 it five fights this way, usually submissions with Cerrone.

[bmlimo]

Re: What determines a 10-8 grappling round?

I wouldn't LET myself take a concussive hit just to go on the ground, that's ludicrous.

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He use 2 gate sub for sure...

[bmlimo]

Re: What determines a 10-8 grappling round?

Imagine, 'Here, I'll let you knock me down'

NOW YOU'VE FALLEN INTO MY TRAP!

Werdum feelings

[RomeroXVII]

Re: What determines a 10-8 grappling round?

Well rocks mean nothing in this game so why not. I've won at least 4 it five fights this way, usually submissions with Cerrone.

The notion that rocks mean nothing in this game is definitely has to be a difference in skill or division.

If you're getting a crazy amount of rocks, and it's not against a character like Ferguson, Cruz, basically any character who has Weathering Storms + a Distinctive Stamina Stat + High Health Stats, you're not capitalizing when you have your opponent hurt.

The only exception to this is if you're fighting somebody DISGUSTINGLY good at counters where you can't force the finish against them.

I get kos without even having to rock my opponent simply because I timed a move. Whether it be, I timed a spinning heel kick immediately after my opponent whiffed their own, or a front kick when they go for an overhand after a whiffed lead leg, it's more so about timing when it comes to vulnerability.

I had a fight against a Zabit, it was 1 rock a piece heading into Round 3, and I Koed him 12 seconds in Round 3 off of a Superman Punch timed on a side kick, and predicting he would duck the third strike in my next combination, which he did.

Against anybody good, I wouldn't willingly take damage they could capitalize on in later rounds having a health advantage.

EDIT: I see Ortega, Cerrone, Maia, Souza, I'm not jumping into your guard and, if I somehow end up there I'm going to be the most denying dingo ever.

[rabbitfistssaipailo]

Re: What determines a 10-8 grappling round?

Werdum feelings

That's my guy at heavy weight ...

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[Lauriedr1ver]

Re: What determines a 10-8 grappling round?

The notion that rocks mean nothing in this game is definitely has to be a difference in skill or division.

If you're getting a crazy amount of rocks, and it's not against a character like Ferguson, Cruz, basically any character who has Weathering Storms + a Distinctive Stamina Stat + High Health Stats, you're not capitalizing when you have your opponent hurt.

The only exception to this is if you're fighting somebody DISGUSTINGLY good at counters where you can't force the finish against them.

I get kos without even having to rock my opponent simply because I timed a move. Whether it be, I timed a spinning heel kick immediately after my opponent whiffed their own, or a front kick when they go for an overhand after a whiffed lead leg, it's more so about timing when it comes to vulnerability.

I had a fight against a Zabit, it was 1 rock a piece heading into Round 3, and I Koed him 12 seconds in Round 3 off of a Superman Punch timed on a side kick, and predicting he would duck the third strike in my next combination, which he did.

Against anybody good, I wouldn't willingly take damage they could capitalize on in later rounds having a health advantage.

EDIT: I see Ortega, Cerrone, Maia, Souza, I'm not jumping into your guard and, if I somehow end up there I'm going to be the most denying dingo ever.

I do get a lot of flash kos as well, my timing is reasonably good, most come of wheel kicks. But yes I am not the highest level, I'm div 5 sitting between 1400-1650.

You've pretty much answered it in the last paragraph though, some people get a knockdown an dive on it without thinking, thats to do with predicting your oppenents poor ability more than anything.

[RomeroXVII]

Re: What determines a 10-8 grappling round?

I do get a lot of flash kos as well, my timing is reasonably good, most come of wheel kicks. But yes I am not the highest level, I'm div 5 sitting between 1400-1650.

You've pretty much answered it in the last paragraph though, some people get a knockdown an dive on it without thinking, thats to do with predicting your oppenents poor ability more than anything.

My rule of thumb: Don't jump into their guard.

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[Lauriedr1ver]

Re: What determines a 10-8 grappling round?

My rule of thumb: Don't jump into their guard.

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Yes but some people are mongs.

[Good Grappler]

Re: What determines a 10-8 grappling round?

If anyone’s still wondering what a 10-8 grappling round looks like, tune in for the Askren fight on March 2. Hell, you may get to find out what a 10-7 grappling round looks like.