Circling Out --- Sprint Option For UFC 4

[aholbert32]

Re: Circling Out --- Sprint Option For UFC 4

What is the criteria for a good argument?

How can I frame L3 as the input for sprint better?

Nah...im good.

[1212headkick]

Re: Circling Out --- Sprint Option For UFC 4

Damn is this what my threads are like?



The johnmangala special as I call it.



This is somehow worse take than arguing that Bruce Lee was legitimate badass but he trained to fight on the streets. I guess Fortnite and CoD historically made billions because they were simply the most realistic shooters on the market.

edit: I think Romero would be a great GC but I wouldn't recommend it to you as it seems like a very thankless job.

Cod made **** tons of money when it was more realistic then it transformed into an arcade shooter with loot boxes. Pro players trash fortnite and several said they’re going to stop playing. Pubg sold millions of copies because it was realistic. Fight night was legendary because it was realistic. There’s a list of legendary games because of their realism. 2k is realistic. MLB the show is realistic. Do I really need to invalidate you more?

[aholbert32]

Re: Circling Out --- Sprint Option For UFC 4

Thank you, I appreciate that.

Is there a time limit for how long you can play the game before the beta? If it were up to me, the first thing I would do to keep it simple with regards to checking bugs and whatnot, is to check if the tracking works when it comes to evading strikes with the lunges , follow it up with the initiation of grappling, and then whatever new mechanic that may be added in for the new game, test that out and try to think outside the box with what may bypass it's intended use.

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The events are tricky. Here is what we did during the first event for UFC 3 (early development).

- Ate Breakfast.
- Talked about the plans for the game and other future developments (one day when I'm not under an NDA, I'll tell you what we discussed).
- Watched a mocap session with Dennis Bermudez.
- Lunch
- Saw a presentation on Career and UT and had a long discussion.
- Played a VERY rough version of the game for 4 hours or so.(only 4 fighters were playable).
- End of day

The late development ones are like this:

- Breakfast
- Play UT
- Play Career
-Break to discuss our notes
- Lunch
- Free play
- Break to discuss our notes
- More free play.
- End of day around 9-10pm

Keep in mind, you are playing a new game so you are trying to learn new mechanics and inputs. All in all you probably play the game for 10-15 hrs during an event.

[aholbert32]

Re: Circling Out --- Sprint Option For UFC 4

It's becoming obvious you don't want me to have better arguments because you can't go to your goto shutdown that the argument is not 'fun' or good enough.

What is the criteria for a good argument?

How can I frame L3 as the input for sprint better?




At least I'm remarkable.

You haven't added anything to this discussion but signal to ahol you're ready for him.

Nah..I'm good.

[johnmangala]

Re: Circling Out --- Sprint Option For UFC 4

Nah....I'm good.

What is the criteria for a good argument? How can I present L3 as the input for sprint better?

The johnmangala special as I call it.

At least I'm remarkable. You haven't added anything to this discussion but signal to ahol you're ready for him.

[aholbert32]

Re: Circling Out --- Sprint Option For UFC 4

What is the criteria for a good argument? How can I present L3 as the input for sprint better?


At least I'm remarkable. You haven't added anything to this discussion but signal to ahol you're ready for him.

Nah...im still good.

[RomeroXVII]

Re: Circling Out --- Sprint Option For UFC 4

The events are tricky. Here is what we did during the first event for UFC 3 (early development).

- Ate Breakfast.
- Talked about the plans for the game and other future developments (one day when I'm not under an NDA, I'll tell you what we discussed).
- Watched a mocap session with Dennis Bermudez.
- Lunch
- Saw a presentation on Career and UT and had a long discussion.
- Played a VERY rough version of the game for 4 hours or so.(only 4 fighters were playable).
- End of day

The late development ones are like this:

- Breakfast
- Play UT
- Play Career
-Break to discuss our notes
- Lunch
- Free play
- Break to discuss our notes
- More free play.
- End of day around 9-10pm

Keep in mind, you are playing a new game so you are trying to learn new mechanics and inputs. All in all you probably play the game for 10-15 hrs during an event.

Got it, so whatever issues are prevalent in UFC 3, just to get it out of the way, I'd likely look to see if those said issues were fixed in the upcoming game, then work on the new mechanics and stick to what I said earlier.

Thank you for listing what you said, that gives me a good idea on what you guys have to work with.

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[johnmangala]

Re: Circling Out --- Sprint Option For UFC 4

Nah...im still good.

So does that mean you're gonna stop going to your vintage talking point that devs don't listen to us because our arguments are poor. You haven't provided what exactly you are looking for... If you did we could follow the criteria and you wouldn't have problems with people like me because I genuinely would try to fix my argument style.

I just want to know how I can say L3 should be the input for sprint any better. You are the one making the claim the arguments are not good enough, you should provide what you are looking in a adequate argument that is respected.

[aholbert32]

Re: Circling Out --- Sprint Option For UFC 4

Got it, so whatever issues are prevalent in UFC 3, just to get it out of the way, I'd likely look to see if those said issues were fixed in the upcoming game, then work on the new mechanics and stick to what I said earlier.

Thank you for listing what you said, that gives me a good idea on what you guys have to work with.

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Here is the tricky part. Lets say you had a ton of issues with the clinch in UFC3. So many that it would fill a page......and then GPD says "Here is the new and improved clinch" for UFC4.

The fact that the clinch is brand new may eliminate most of the issues you had with UFC 3's clinch. The issue is that now you have to find the bugs/exploits with the new clinch and you only really have 2 days to find them.

[aholbert32]

Re: Circling Out --- Sprint Option For UFC 4

So does that mean you're gonna stop going to your vintage talking point that devs don't listen to us because our arguments are poor. You haven't provided what exactly you are looking for... If you did we could follow the criteria and you wouldn't have problems with people like me because I genuinely would try to fix my argument style.

I just want to know how I can say L3 should be the input for sprint any better. You are the one making the claim the arguments are not good enough, you should provide what you are looking in a adequate argument that is respected.

Lets get specific. Your counter arguments and ability to adapt to new information really sucks. Your initial arguments are usually pretty good even if i disagree with it.

Ok back to what I was doing.


Nah, I'm good.

[kehlis]

Re: Circling Out --- Sprint Option For UFC 4

So does that mean you're gonna stop going to your vintage talking point that devs don't listen to us because our arguments are poor. You haven't provided what exactly you are looking for... If you did we could follow the criteria and you wouldn't have problems with people like me because I genuinely would try to fix my argument style.

I just want to know how I can say L3 should be the input for sprint any better. You are the one making the claim the arguments are not good enough, you should provide what you are looking in a adequate argument that is respected.

For the love of god, stop it.

He isn't going to reply. We can't make him reply.

Let this thread move on.


Also, please remove the image from your signature. It's against the TOS to have.

[tomitomitomi]

Re: Circling Out --- Sprint Option For UFC 4

Cod made **** tons of money when it was more realistic then it transformed into an arcade shooter with loot boxes. Pro players trash fortnite and several said they’re going to stop playing. Pubg sold millions of copies because it was realistic. Fight night was legendary because it was realistic. There’s a list of legendary games because of their realism. 2k is realistic. MLB the show is realistic. Do I really need to invalidate you more?

Mate you already invalidated yourself when you attributed CoD's sales to realism when it has been the most arcadey shooter on the market for 12 years. Why didn't Battlefield sell more than CoD when it is indubitably more realistic?

At least I'm remarkable. You haven't added anything to this discussion but signal to ahol you're ready for him.

Just because you got Matt Serra included doesn't give you the right to bully me like this.

[johnmangala]

Re: Circling Out --- Sprint Option For UFC 4

Lets get specific. Your counter arguments and ability to adapt to new information really sucks. Your initial arguments are usually pretty good even if i disagree with it.

Ok back to what I was doing.


Nah, I'm good.

That's not specific. What are your examples so I can refine them?

I am open to all my earlier counter arguments and adaption being poor. But you haven't specified what is needed instead. Is all you want better counter arguments and acknowledging new information? I thought I was doing that but fair enough.

So here's the opportunity for your new information and counter arguments. I can rebuttal.

L3 for sprinting-
*Back and forward: sprinting/retreat + side to side: circling/lateral sprint.
*Doc stoppages, sliders, circling, rng, etc can be for offline/quick fight while disabled in ranked. KO mode etc already restrict certain techniques. If comp has collectively decided they don't want to deal with 'running', just disable it in ranked and leave it as an option for offline/quick fight.

A 'middle ground' was brought up. What I showed above is more of a middle ground. Having a feature excluded 100% is not a 'middle ground'. because a small portion of the player base doesn't to deal with the nature of MMA.

there's probably more "nah I'm good"s tho

[aholbert32]

Re: Circling Out --- Sprint Option For UFC 4

That's not specific. What are your examples so I can refine them?

I am open to all my earlier counter arguments and adaption being poor. But you haven't specified what is needed instead. Is all you want better counter arguments and acknowledging new information? I thought I was doing that but fair enough.

So here's the opportunity for your new information and counter arguments. I can rebuttal.

L3 for sprinting-
*Back and forward: sprinting/retreat + side to side: circling/lateral sprint.
*Doc stoppages, sliders, circling, rng, etc can be for offline/quick fight while disabled in ranked. KO mode etc already restrict certain techniques. If comp has collectively decided they don't want to deal with 'running', just disable it in ranked and leave it as an option for offline/quick fight.

A 'middle ground' was brought up. What I showed above is more of a middle ground. Having a feature excluded 100% is not a 'middle ground'. because a small portion of the player base doesn't to deal with the nature of MMA.

there's probably more "nah I'm good"s tho

Nah, I'm good. I told you hours ago. You missed your chance to debate me. Keep it moving.

[johnmangala]

Re: Circling Out --- Sprint Option For UFC 4

The middle ground presented is skewed. A true middle ground would be to satisfy both parties (those who want circling in and those who don't).

For the love of god, stop it.

He isn't going to reply. We can't make him reply.

Let this thread move on.


Also, please remove the image from your signature. It's against the TOS to have.

Did you not see the context of this discussion? Did you not notice all the personal attacks by him and harassment? I tried to keep it civil and on topic, but he repeatedly personally attacked me and bullied me by insulting me and my contributions to EA UFC.

I am actually trying to make this thread progress because he came in and derailed it at the start. There is a lot of discrepancies, basically fake news, and he won't own up to it and is fleeing, or 'running' away.

I'm not forcing him to respond.

And I didn't know about the sig, it allowed me to do it so I thought it was allowed.

Just because you got Matt Serra included doesn't give you the right to bully me like this.

Ironic given how you are there at every corner to drop your 'johnmangala special' line. You have been bullying me for years now, every chance you get you come around to nitpick my posts and insult me.