Circling Out --- Sprint Option For UFC 4

[johnmangala]

Re: Circling Out --- Sprint Option For UFC 4

Why do you need me to respond to your idea?

This isnt prejudice. I havent prejudged you in anyway. My reason for not responding is based solely on my past experiences with you. This isnt discrimination. I respond to plenty of sim minded people. I just wont respond to you.

You need to let it go at this point because I'm not going to respond to you about your point. You have plenty of people here who have already responded. You can send your idea to GPD on Twitter. You can PM the 6 other GCs.

You just wont get what you want from me.

Except ignoring my ideas because you don't like your past experience with me... Is discrimination. An example of favoritism and bias. You are not being objective with my ideas but ignoring them because of who wrote it.

L3 as the input for sprint is more user friendly, intuitive, and accessible. Philly thought it was a good idea, so since you don't like discussing with me... Why don't you discuss the idea with Philly and the many others. They agreed with me on this.

The idea contradicts your narrative that comp hates running and you don't like your agenda being confronted.

[1212headkick]

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No problem my guy. Yep, I specifically replied to that part because it was the only one where I feel that needed to be addressed. In general with regards to pressure, I definitely feel where the point is coming from.

The few things that nullifies pressure in game is a superior grappler i.e using the clinch, hit stun TDs and GA TDs, and once you get them to the ground, denials have to be on point. And, from a realistic perspective, I'm not even a fan of the grappling in game and I'm a wrestler, but that's why we're here as a community to HELP give solid feedback without having to bash the GCs, Dev's, etc etc.

If they didn't care about how we felt, we would have been left with the various issues we had in the beginning of the game. Geoff even dropped a tuner that really helps against pressure with regards to getting rocked and whatnot.

I think out of every single MMA game that has been created, in terms of fluidity (especially offline) this game has done extremely well. I love the striking in game, I love the undeniable TDs, low singles, cage animations that were added, so many things. But like everything, things can always be done better and since we know UFC 4 is confirmed, now is the time to speak up and let what you desire to be in the next game have a chance to be implemented, as long as it comes with concise reasoning.

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Were not trying to bash them but simply voicing their inefficiency. Because its facts that alot of the stuff we voice falls flat. When theyre only listenening to a select few the game will remain broken unrealistic and simply not fun to play. If its only fun for 100 people that means the game has failed. Geoff trys but he needs to realize that someone has to take an L on the unrealism stance.

More realism=more sales. We live in age where the more realistic you make a game the better it does. I said a year ago it was not realistic to only move straight back especially with the stiff arm retreat. You think dominick cruz is going to always back up to the cage to avoid strikes? lunging and head movement are going to make you take an L. Trying to maintain a distance is going to make you take an L. The counter to pressure is pressure and thats wrong on so many levels and practice mode is the worst ive seen in 20 years of gaming.

[aholbert32]

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Except ignoring my ideas because you don't like your past experience with me... Is discrimination. An example of favoritism and bias. You are not being objective with my ideas but ignoring them because of who wrote it.

L3 as the input for sprint is more user friendly, intuitive, and accessible. Philly thought it was a good idea, so since you don't like discussing with me... Why don't you discuss the idea with Philly and the many others. They agreed with me on this.

My idea contradicts your narrative that comp hates running narrative and you don't like your agenda being confronted.

You really need to look up the word "discrimination."

Why do I need to discuss your ideas with you? I went into detail all day yesterday about the issues I have with the way you present your points and your stubbornness when someone presents arguments counter to what you want.

I have no obligation to speak to you. I have no obligation to address your points. I post here for fun and I dont enjoy speaking to you. So let it go. Its OK. There are plenty of other people to talk to.

I've just spent the last day being "confronted" by you. I dont give a **** about confrontation. Some would argue I actually like it. Like I said before I'm going to stay in my lane and only discuss AI or Stats. If it aint that, I'm only talking to people about gameplay through PM....and you aint one of those people.

[aholbert32]

Re: Circling Out --- Sprint Option For UFC 4

We live in age where the more realistic you make a game the better it does.

Do you think UFC 3 is more realistic than UFC 2?

[RomeroXVII]

Re: Circling Out --- Sprint Option For UFC 4

Were not trying to bash them but simply voicing their inefficiency. Because its facts that alot of the stuff we voice falls flat. When theyre only listenening to a select few the game will remain broken unrealistic and simply not fun to play. If its only fun for 100 people that means the game has failed. Geoff trys but he needs to realize that someone has to take an L on the unrealism stance. More realism=more sales. We live in age where the more realistic you make a game the better it does.

Agreed to an extent. It'd be good to have somebody who's MMA fan first, gamer second, and knows how to articulate themselves accordingly based on the things they want to introduce.

God forbid if there was somebody who was an exploiter as a GC lol.

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[1212headkick]

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Agreed to an extent. It'd be good to have somebody who's MMA fan first, gamer second, and knows how to articulate themselves accordingly based on the things they want to introduce.

God forbid if there was somebody who was an exploiter as a GC lol.

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Well nate diazs broken 1212 was directly kenetics idea. When they patched head movement he tweeted"welp. Head movement is pretty much broken now". So thats basically kinda true

[aholbert32]

Re: Circling Out --- Sprint Option For UFC 4

Agreed to an extent. It'd be good to have somebody who's MMA fan first, gamer second, and knows how to articulate themselves accordingly based on the things they want to introduce.

God forbid if there was somebody who was an exploiter as a GC lol.

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Hmmm....Is that necessarily a good or a bad thing?

We've had discussions in the past about new members and who would be good additions. When it comes to gameplay GCs, I've alwasy wondered if it would be a good idea to have a cheeser or exploiter. Someone who is good at identifying cheese so that it can be addressed earlier.

One problem is that the guys we have on the team arent really cheesers. They play straight up at events. Same with the QC team. So the devs arent really able to identify exploits until its too late and they have to fix them by patch.

The flip side is that exploiter could use his access and influence to keep exploits in the game.

[aholbert32]

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You are showing favoritism, that is a type of discrimination.

So what better arguments entail? You always criticize the method but haven't specified here what you want to see improved. I mean exactly things so there is transparent criteria.

Before something predictable like go to other sites and find consensus. I mean how exactly do you want people to present their ideas? What approach do you recommend. Simply put, you have said what not to do but not what to do exactly.

What's your criteria for a good argument? Like a judge it shouldn't be ambiguous, but instead clear. If there is there is no way to convince you, them you concede you are unreasonable.

For example how can I present L3 as the input for sprint better? I will follow the criteria you provide for respectable arguments.

Let it go. Move on. I'm never going to respond to your questions.

[Phillyboi207]

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Do you think UFC 3 is more realistic than UFC 2?

If UFC 2 did better than UFC 3 I can guarantee it’s cuz Ultimate team is way worse. UT in UFC 2 was actually fun. They completely ruined it this game.

[aholbert32]

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Well nate diazs broken 1212 was directly kenetics idea. When they patched head movement he tweeted"welp. Head movement is pretty much broken now". So thats basically kinda true

Thats false. 100% false.

We didnt see or play with Nate Diaz's moveset until a week before the game's release. He had nothing to do with that. At the last event before release, the only movesets that were available were Diakese, Thompson, Conor and Cruz.

I have no idea where you get this stuff from.

[aholbert32]

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More concessions of unreasonableness and stubbornness.

Yes and I dont have to be reasonable and I never will be to you.

[johnmangala]

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LYes and I dont have to be reasonable and I never will be to you.

What's the criteria for a good argument?

For example how can I present L3 as the input for sprint better? If you don't even let me try to convince you with better arguments... That's discrimination.

[aholbert32]

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If UFC 2 did better than UFC 3 I can guarantee it’s cuz Ultimate team is way worse. UT in UFC 2 was actually fun. They completely ruined it this game.

UFC 3 did well in sales. Its still EA's 3rd best sports game when it comes to sales.

UFC 2 appears to have sold much better. Part of that is because it was released at the height of Conor mania and the tale end of Ronda's run. Part of that could be that UT was better in 2.

I think realism=sales isnt the best argument though. The only sports game that supports that is NBA2k and you could argue that Live's drop off wasnt because 2k was hyper realistic (it isnt) and more that Live has been a dumpster fire for the past decade.

The more complete argument is that a realistic game is a better more fun game and to attempt to show that not just hardcore sim heads want the levels of realism we want.

[1212headkick]

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Heres who should be gcs

Martial
ZHunter
Sugata
Solid Altair
Romero.

Why? Half of them train irl and the other half are gameplay wizards. This would be the dream team. The fact that mma game pushed for equal stats earned him an instant unsub for me. I dont agree with half that list all the time but that list does love the community. Noone asked for holbert and look what happens when we discuss what we want? He feigns his support all the while trashing those he claims to support. No disrespect but hes not right or fit for the job. And ill say it again - we need dev play days. They have to do a better job interacting with us or itll remain a **** show. We need to test the patches before they go live

[aholbert32]

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What's the criteria for a good argument?

For example how can I present L3 as the input for sprint better? If you don't even let me try to convince you with better arguments... That's discrimination.

Nah. I'm good.