Dev question: I still want to know who asked for this?...

[GamingPractitioner]

Let me first say that this is not "hating" or "bashing" because thats not what i'm here to do. I just simply want to know why out of all the past and present request for a PRIDE FC mode we instead got.....kumite. Now i am getting a feel of the 80's vibe of it and i DO enjoy it because its something different but I seriously want to know how something like this made it and Pride didn't.

[aholbert32]

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Let me first say that this is not "hating" or "bashing" because thats not what i'm here to do. I just simply want to know why out of all the past and present request for a PRIDE FC mode we instead got.....kumite. Now i am getting a feel of the 80's vibe of it and i DO enjoy it because its something different but I seriously want to know how something like this made it and Pride didn't.

I'm not a dev but the answer seems pretty obvious:

1) A Pride mode requires money. EA would have to pay additional money to get the likeness rights to Pride fighters who arent in the game. 21 of the 33 fighters that were in Pride mode in UD3 would require EA to negotiate individual likness deals.

2) The audience that EA is targeting likely doesnt know or care about Pride. EA isnt targeting hardcore MMA fans or OSers with this game. EA isnt going to put in resources to create a mode that the target audience they want doesnt know or care about.

[martialxd]

Re: Dev question: I still want to know who asked for this?...

okay
just add soccer kick 😂
everything will be fun

[Haz____]

Re: Dev question: I still want to know who asked for this?...

I'm not a dev but the answer seems pretty obvious:

1) A Pride mode requires money. EA would have to pay additional money to get the likeness rights to Pride fighters who arent in the game. 21 of the 33 fighters that were in Pride mode in UD3 would require EA to negotiate individual likness deals.

2) The audience that EA is targeting likely doesnt know or care about Pride. EA isnt targeting hardcore MMA fans or OSers with this game. EA isnt going to put in resources to create a mode that the target audience they want doesnt know or care about.

Even if you don't have licensed Pride fighters, they still have rights to the brand don't they? Even if not a "Pride" branded ring, just an MMA arena in a Kickboxing style ring like Pride, Rizin, DREAM, One has done would be super cool, different, but still actually realistic and fitting of the sport.

Instead we get full Mortal Kombat, with zany sound effects....


*eyes roll so far back into my skull it literally hurts*

[rabbitfistssaipailo]

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Even if you don't have licensed Pride fighters, they still have rights to the brand don't they? Even if not a "Pride" branded ring, just an MMA arena in a Kickboxing style ring like Pride, Rizin, DREAM, One has done would be super cool, different, but still actually realistic and fitting of the sport.

Instead we get full Mortal Kombat, with zany sound effects....


*eyes roll so far back into my skull it literally hurts*

The way the game is built , they can't put in a boxing ring to replace the octagon. The would have to make another game entirely for that. The devs have explained this before.



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[Find_the_Door]

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The way the game is built , they can't put in a boxing ring to replace the octagon. The would have to make another game entirely for that. The devs have explained this before.



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I don't buy that - all that literally changes is just the boundaries

[ryangil23]

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Is the Kumite ring, if you can call it a ring, not bigger than the normal octagon? It feels bigger anyway.

[Gion]

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I don't buy that - all that literally changes is just the boundaries

Magical rope physics that require incredible amounts of time and money are also needed
It's not like there was some boxing series developed by the same company that easily made rope physics in 2004 on a ps2 or anything

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[rabbitfistssaipailo]

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Is the Kumite ring, if you can call it a ring, not bigger than the normal octagon? It feels bigger anyway.

A ring is square shaped , with sharp corners , the way the game is built won't allow it.

It would have to be rebuilt for that unless you want bugs and ****.

It's possible , don't get me wrong but I don't think we will see pride mode except with CAFs but it's stretch.

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[ryangil23]

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A ring is square shaped , with sharp corners , the way the game is built won't allow it.

It would have to be rebuilt for that unless you want bugs and ****.

It's possible , don't get me wrong but I don't think we will see pride mode except with CAFs but it's stretch.

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I’m not a game dev so maybe it’s a lot more complicated than it sounds but would making the boundary a square rather than an octagon be that hard?

[rabbitfistssaipailo]

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I’m not a game dev so maybe it’s a lot more complicated than it sounds but would making the boundary a square rather than an octagon be that hard?

From what I heard yes . But don't quote me .

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[Irish0331]

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I’m not a game dev so maybe it’s a lot more complicated than it sounds but would making the boundary a square rather than an octagon be that hard?

It may not be as easy as just throwing it together over the weekend, but i'm not buying that it's some incredibly difficult thing to pull off seeing as how it's been pulled off already going back many years and a couple of consoles.

[WarMMA]

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I'm not a dev but the answer seems pretty obvious:

1) A Pride mode requires money. EA would have to pay additional money to get the likeness rights to Pride fighters who arent in the game. 21 of the 33 fighters that were in Pride mode in UD3 would require EA to negotiate individual likness deals.

2) The audience that EA is targeting likely doesnt know or care about Pride. EA isnt targeting hardcore MMA fans or OSers with this game. EA isnt going to put in resources to create a mode that the target audience they want doesnt know or care about.

I understand your 1st point, but the 2nd isn't really a matter imo. What I mean is they dont have to know or care about it. Im sure they dont know wth Kumite is either. Its suppose to be just a fun mode right? Same thing Pride could have been to them. I feel like a casual audience would enjoy Pride more than this silly Kumite thing. Like if they had Pride instead of Kumite, you dont think casuals would enjoy the japanese ruleset where they can stomp and kick opponents in the face?

[johnmangala]

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I'm not a dev but the answer seems pretty obvious:

1) A Pride mode requires money. EA would have to pay additional money to get the likeness rights to Pride fighters who arent in the game. 21 of the 33 fighters that were in Pride mode in UD3 would require EA to negotiate individual likness deals.

2) The audience that EA is targeting likely doesnt know or care about Pride. EA isnt targeting hardcore MMA fans or OSers with this game. EA isnt going to put in resources to create a mode that the target audience they want doesnt know or care about.

Couldn't they just do a pride rules without the fighters?

[KoryDub]

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I don't buy that - all that literally changes is just the boundaries

It changes a LOT about the game in terms of a development standpoint.

It's pretty frustrating watching people type things like "it can't be that hard" while simultaneously NOT holding any type of computer science degree.

This isn't 'coding' they teach in Grade 2 - this is high level and extremely complicated stuff.

Lots of people brush it off because they just don't understand.

I’m not a game dev so maybe it’s a lot more complicated than it sounds but would making the boundary a square rather than an octagon be that hard?

Yes. It's incredibly difficult and time consuming.