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[johnmangala]

Ferguson v Cerrone @ UFC 238

<blockquote class="embedly-card"><h4><a href="https://twitter.com/bokamotoESPN/status/1126970170931437569?s=19">Brett Okamoto on Twitter</a></h4><p>Breaking: UFC close to finalizing a bout between Tony Ferguson and Cowboy Cerrone for UFC 238 on June 8 in Chicago. https://t.co/weCcXApXjP</p></blockquote>
<blockquote class="embedly-card"><h4><a href="https://twitter.com/bokamotoESPN/status/1126974128190156800?s=19">Brett Okamoto on Twitter</a></h4><p>So, not only has Cowboy Cerrone accepted a fight against Tony Ferguson four weeks from now ... less than one week removed from a fight against Al Iaquinta ... I heard he inquired about making it five rounds. He feels like he's just warming up at five rounds. Mad. Man.</p></blockquote>

Damn did not think this fight would happen, let alone so SOON... Just next month. I really don't know what to expect from this line, other than it'd probably be close. Maybe Ferguson creates negative perception like Holloway did with his health problems and becomes the underdog. If it's still the same Ferguson (if not somehow even better), I would have him as a slight favorite.

Cerrone matches up well at the same time, precise strikes that can put Ferguson down and at this point maybe keep him down. Grappling is mostly neutral, but Ferguson probably had a slight edge. But in terms of striking Cerrone is a clear favorite. I think Ferguson pulls it off again tho, probably by decision- doubt he submits Cerrone he does others.

[p_rushing]

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Damn did not think this fight would happen, let alone so SOON... Just next month. I really don't know what to expect from this line, other than it'd probably be close. Maybe Ferguson creates negative perception like Holloway did with his health problems and becomes the underdog. If it's still the same Ferguson (if not somehow even better), I would have him as a slight favorite.

Cerrone matches up well at the same time, precise strikes that can put Ferguson down and at this point maybe keep him down. Grappling is mostly neutral, but Ferguson probably had a slight edge. But in terms of striking Cerrone is a clear favorite. I think Ferguson pulls it off again tho, probably by decision- doubt he submits Cerrone he does others.

Does Ferguson have the edge grappling? Cerrone is the bigger, probably stronger fighter. That matters as Cerrone should be able to keep him down. Cerrone is also better off his back and Ferguson can attack but I think he only has 2 non-choke subs. Cerrone is much more rounded at least in the cage.

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[johnmangala]

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Does Ferguson have the edge grappling? Cerrone is the bigger, probably stronger fighter. That matters as Cerrone should be able to keep him down. Cerrone is also better off his back and Ferguson can attack but I think he only has 2 non-choke subs. Cerrone is much more rounded at least in the cage.

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I think Ferguson's more crafty, he doesn't look as clean grappling as Cerrone does tho. Cerrone is more efficient and dynamic grappler but Ferguson seems to be more effective, especially when he's hurt. To me the point is Cerrone has a significant advantage in striking but their grappling is more competitive. You're probably right that Cerrone is a better grappler overall. If the fight is 3 rounds Ferguson fares better, whereas 5 rounds could favor Cerrone. Ferguson has been more resourceful in the end despite being wild and inefficient. Cerrone generally does better the longer a fight goes. Ferguson is the same but also similar to fighters like Holloway and DJ where they can start strong but go even harder in the later rounds. He has been very hittable and gets dropped almost every fight, Cerrone can exploit that. Cerrone is doing better against pressure lately maybe due to the pressure of becoming a father, Ferguson tho is more adaptable and crazy. Mainly, Ferguson is better at overcoming adversity overall.

[Gotmadskillzson]

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Sage Northcutt was destroyed in his One FC debut. KO'ed in the first round 29 seconds in by a punch. That punch caused 8 fractures to Sage's skull and it took a 9 hour surgery to repair it.

https://www.tmz.com/2019/05/19/sage-northcutt-surgery-fractures-mma-one-knockout-fight/#

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[p_rushing]

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Sage Northcutt was destroyed in his One FC debut. KO'ed in the first round 29 seconds in by a punch. That punch caused 8 fractures to Sage's skull and it took a 9 hour surgery to repair it.

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He was fighting a good fighter and probably the best fighter of his career. Dana ruined him. There was no reason to hype him so fast. It was fine to sign him, but he needed to fight nobodies or stay in the regional season.

I don't know if he really is a MMA fighter. He doesn't keep his hands up, just like here and never saw the punch coming. He fights like he can't be hit in the head like in Karate. He is still young enough to put it together, but I don't know if he can after all the hype.

[Gotmadskillzson]

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Well yeah Cosmo Alexandre was definitely out of his league, even at the age of 37. Dude is a former multi time kickboxing and muay thai champion. To be fair, Sage fought nothing but nobodies in the UFC. His manager need to be fired. You can't jump from fighting nobodies to a seasoned multi champion in striking. That is a big leap. I guess they were banking the dude would be slow at the age of 37, NOPE.

Far as the hands down thing ? Yeah that come from cockiness and fighting nobodies your whole career. He learned that night that crap don't fly against high tier opponents. Sage got a life lesson that night. I hope it is the wake up call that he needs to take MMA more serious.

[p_rushing]

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Well yeah Cosmo Alexandre was definitely out of his league, even at the age of 37. Dude is a former multi time kickboxing and muay thai champion. To be fair, Sage fought nothing but nobodies in the UFC. His manager need to be fired. You can't jump from fighting nobodies to a seasoned multi champion in striking. That is a big leap. I guess they were banking the dude would be slow at the age of 37, NOPE.

Far as the hands down thing ? Yeah that come from cockiness and fighting nobodies your whole career. He learned that night that crap don't fly against high tier opponents. Sage got a life lesson that night. I hope it is the wake up call that he needs to take MMA more serious.

Hopefully it helps him, but I just don't see that killer inside him that a MMA fighter needs to have. It isn't point fighting or rolling on the ground.

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[Pappy Knuckles]

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I was disappointed when UFC let Jimmy Smith go, but I'm really happy that he's branched out into other things like Youtube, his podcast, etc. I was always a big fan of him in Bellator, so getting to hear his thoughts in more depth has been awesome. Glad to see how quickly things have taken off for him.

[Pappy Knuckles]

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Just fast forward to around 10:30. Seeing Paulie with the microphone move is killing me right now. I don't really have much interest in the bare-knuckle stuff, but I will definitely watch this one. Everything leading up to this has been hilarious to me.

[Money99]

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Just fast forward to around 10:30. Seeing Paulie with the microphone move is killing me right now. I don't really have much interest in the bare-knuckle stuff, but I will definitely watch this one. Everything leading up to this has been hilarious to me.

I'll likely tune in to see what happens in that fight as well. I'm not into the BK stuff, but this fight intrigues me.

I was just reading that ONE Championship has strict hydration rules so that fighters are essentially fighting at their walk-around weight.
I wish every combat sport utilized this rule.
Sage is typically fighting at 155 and 170, but in this bout he's at 185. Sure tells you a lot about how much these guys cut to gain an advantage.

[p_rushing]

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PFL killed itself by getting in bed with the terrorist and now signing all these wrestlers and most of them foreign. They need to give 1 point for wins where all you do is lay on someone. Last night's card had too much lay and pray going on.

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[WarMMA]

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Just fast forward to around 10:30. Seeing Paulie with the microphone move is killing me right now. I don't really have much interest in the bare-knuckle stuff, but I will definitely watch this one. Everything leading up to this has been hilarious to me.

Man this was funny as hell lol. Some really entertaining stuff. I'll be watching for sure too just cuz of the bad blood these guys have.

[Good Grappler]

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Joe Benavidez’s grappling is very good. He’s extremely under appreciated and underrated in my opinion.

I was going on a fight binge the other day, watching a bunch of Benavidez fights, and damn his scrambling ability is incredible. He’s never in a bad position for more than a few seconds. BJJ just does not seem to work on him, as his record shows.

And I know, there’s a lot of BW/FW fighters who have good scrambling ability. But Joe B really stands out from them because of how dominant he is once he gets a good position.

Some highlights from his career:

- Wagney Fabiano, high level BJJ black belt in WEC. Benavidez came out on top in every grappling scramble. At one point Fabiano secured side control... Benavidez just rolls him over, grabs his neck, and guillotines him.

- Miguel Torres. I believe he’s a 5th degree black belt under carlson gracie. Benavidez completely shrugged off his grappling and eventually guillotined him, granted he had battered him with strikes first.

- Jussier Formiga. Just wow. Especially when you consider that Jussier is arguably the most effective fighter at using BJJ right now in that division, and he’s been on a roll lately, beating guys like Sergio Pettis. Formiga had Joe’s back in the second round, Benavidez just scrambles right out. Safely stays in Formiga’s guard for a minute, shutting down an arm triangle attempt. Eventually gets the finish.

[WarMMA]

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Yh lot's of the smaller guys scramble really well, but Joe B's always been a great scrambler. It's hard to keep him trapped...especially when he's fresh. He's a really underrated guy and I feel he has a decent chance at beating Cejudo again and winning the title. That said, how about UFC 239? Two titles on the line...the card is STACKED. We got a main card full of fights that could have easily been main or co-main events. Jones/Santos, Holm/Nunes, Askren/Masvidal, Rockhold/Jan, ect. Who you got in those fights?

[Good Grappler]

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I’m most stoked for the Askren fight and always will be so long as he’s undefeated. But man, that Rockhold fight is fascinating as well. I keep forgetting about that one.

As we all know, 205 is very weak right now. You look at the top 10, and it’s just filled with unimpressive names. Oezdemir, Reyes, Smith, Latifi, Santos. I’ve felt for a long time that an elite middleweight could come up and cut right through those names. I don’t know if Rockhold’s gonna be the guy, but he damn well could be.