UFC 106: Forrest vs Tito

[Wet Bandit]

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Carwin took one good shot...not like 80 or so as Cain did. Carwin finished the fight, and Cain couldn't. Carwin could handle his opponents strength really well, Cain sort of did, but not really well.

"I finish fights! ....how wants to see fights finished out here!?!?"

-Carwin took one good shot in one minute. Cain took three or four good shots in 15 minutes. I'm not sure those ratios favor Carwin.

-Yeah, Carwin finished his fight, by knocking out a guy who had been TKO'd three times in 13 fights, despite only once facing a serious striker. To say Gonzaga's chin is suspect would be a massive understatement.

And yeah, Cain was unable to finish Kongo. But Kongo had only been finished, in any way, once in his previous 19 fights.

It is, in fact, easier to knock Gonzaga out, even if you're not a striker, than it is to finish Kongo.

[allBthere]

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-Carwin took one good shot in one minute. Cain took three or four good shots in 15 minutes. I'm not sure those ratios favor Carwin.

-Yeah, Carwin finished his fight, by knocking out a guy who had been TKO'd three times in 13 fights, despite only once facing a serious striker. To say Gonzaga's chin is suspect would be a massive understatement.

And yeah, Cain was unable to finish Kongo. But Kongo had only been finished, in any way, once in his previous 19 fights.

It is, in fact, easier to knock Gonzaga out, even if you're not a striker, than it is to finish Kongo.

I like some of those points, but to me another thing to add to the mix is in my eyes gonzaga is a way better fighter than kongo - saying he's been tko'd a few times isn't that big of a deal to me. he lost to randy freakin couture...I think gonzaga is a really good fighter

psst...he's awesome in undisputed too.

[DTX3]

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Florian vs Guida in works for Nov. 21st.

Lightweights Kenny “Ken Flo” Florian (11-4) and Clay “The Carpenter” Guida (25-10) are in talks to square off at UFC 106 from the Mandalay Bay Events Center in Las Vegas, Nevada, on Nov. 21, adding more pop to an already powerful-looking fight card.

Michael David Smith was the first to float the possible 155-pound match up, and MMAmania.com has since been able to confirm that it is indeed under consideration. Bout agreements, however, have not been signed at this time.

“Ken Flo” recenly took lightweight champion BJ Penn into the championship rounds earlier this month in the main event of UFC 101: “Declaration” before getting submitted for the first time in his career by the jiu-jitsu “master” late in the fourth round.

However, during that fight, Florian continued to demonstrate the reason he is — and has been — one of the most improved 155-pound fighters in the world over the last three years. He hung right there with the champ — who is the top lightweight fighters in the sport today — for much of the contest.

The 33-year old previously fought for the UFC title one other time, falling to Sean Sherk by unanimous decision in a battle for the vacant strap back at UFC 64: “Unstoppable” in late 2006.

Between those two title fight appearances, the Boston-area native put together an impressive six-fight win streak over many of the toughest fighters in the division, including Joe Lauzon, Din Thomas, Roger Huerta and Joe Stevenson.

Earlier this week, the finalist from the inaugural season of “The Ultimate Fighter” had this to say to the Boston Herald following the loss to Penn:


“I’m still at the top of the division and in one or two fights I think I can put myself back into contention to fight for the belt again. In order to do that, I’m going to have to face some tough guys.”

Ask and you shall receive — they don’t come much tougher than Clay Guida.

“The Carpenter” has only compiled a record of (5-4) since joining the UFC at the beginning of 2007, but that includes four action-packed split decisions and an opponent list with names like Tyson Griffin (split decision loss), Roger Huerta (late round technical knockout after being ahead on the scorecards), Marcus Aurelio (split decision win), Mac Danzig (unanimous decision win), Nate Diaz (split decision win), Diego Sanchez (split decision loss) and Din Thomas (controversial unanimous decision loss).

Basically, he’s fought and performed well against a good number of the division’s best competition, including current number one contender Diego Sanchez at TUF 9 Finale, which is certainly a candidate for “Fight of the Year” in 2009

Like Florian, Guida seems to get better with every fight. And he never backs down from an opponent. Both guys coming off big time losses, so there’s going to be a lot on the line when these two face off in late November.

It, too, has all the makings for another “Fight of the Year” candidate.

UFC 106 will feature a main event heavyweight title bout between two absolute monsters as champion Brock Lesnar will look to defend his gold for the second time against his newest challenger, Shane Carwin. “The Huntington Beach Bad Boy” Tito Ortiz is also set to make his return to the Octagon against UFC Hall of Famer, Mark Coleman, after spending nearly a year and a half on the sidelines.

What a card 106 will eventually be.

[TwelveozPlaya21]

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Wow I can't wait for this card, I love lesner, I don't mind seeing Tito back in the UFC. But I am super hyped up for Florian vs Guida, Guida is just a fun *** fighter..

[ex carrabba fan]

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If Tito shows out this could be one of the best overall cards that I can remember.

[TwelveozPlaya21]

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If Tito shows out this could be one of the best overall cards that I can remember.

I think he's gonna wanna show the fans and dana white and company that he still can fight at a top level...

[DTX3]

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I updated the first post with the current card.

[allBthere]

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Mark Coleman must be among the most active in the UFC during recent times.

In fact, ...who is the most active UFC fighter? I know some are more active than others, but it seems like the busiest guys do 4 a year.
Is anyone doing 5 and over?

[DTX3]

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Amir Sadollah vs Phil Baroni under consideration for 106

The Ultimate Fighter (TUF) 7 winner Amir Sadollah is under consideration to welcome Phil Baroni back into the Octagon in a welterweight clash planned for UFC 106 from the Mandalay Bay Events Center in Las Vegas, Nevada, on Nov. 21.

Inside Fights was the first to float the possible 170-pound match up, and MMAmania.com has since been able to confirm that it is indeed under consideration. Bout agreements, however, have not been signed at this time.

Sadollah suffered a series of injury-related setbacks since a submission win over CB Dolloway at TUF 7 Finale. He was expected to follow up that performance against Nick Catone at UFC 91: “Lesnar vs. Couture” on November 15. However, just four days before fight night he had to withdraw because of a leg infection.

After more than a year on the sidelines, Sadollah finally got back into the cage at UFC 101 last month in his welterweight debut. Unfortunately his return was short lived after Johnny Hendricks put him down in the first round (with a little help from much-maligned referee Dan Miragliotta).

Now the likable and hard-working Sadollah will get a chance to erase those bad memories with a big win over potential opponent and master of self-promotion Phil Baroni.


"The New York Bad ***" last appeared in St. Louis back in June of this year, dropping a unanimous decision to fellow MMA journeyman Joe "Diesel" Riggs. The loss marked his first defeat in four fights since rebounding from a three fight losing skid, as well as his first loss at 170 pounds.

The 33-year-old Pride FC, Elite XC and Strikeforce veteran recently agreed to return to where his career essentially began with the UFC, likely facilitated by his good relationship with company president, Dana White, and his colorful ability to promote fights.

Baroni competed eight times inside the Octagon between 2001 and 2005, compiling a lackluster record (3-5) during that span. He fought Evan Tanner and Matt Lindland twice (four total fights) and lost all of those middleweight matches. Baroni is perhaps best known for being upset by up-and-comer Pete Sell thanks to a guillotine choke that put the Long Island, N.Y., native to sleep.

How he performs against the up-and-coming Sadollah on November 21 will say a lot about his future in the UFC — and MMA overall.

UFC 106 will feature a main event heavyweight title bout between two absolute monsters as champion Brock Lesnar will look to defend his gold for the second time against his newest challenger, Shane Carwin. “The Huntington Beach Bad Boy” Tito Ortiz is also set to make his return to the Octagon against UFC Hall of Famer, Mark Coleman, after spending nearly a year and a half on the sidelines.

[ex carrabba fan]

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SMH at how Baroni even got back into the UFC to begin with.

[Wet Bandit]

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Florian/Guida looks like it's being moved to 107. Ben Saunders/Marcus Davis will probably replace it on the main card. That makes a ton of sense. 106 already has a ton of star power, while 107 could use a boost after Rampage dropped out. And 106 was very heavy with grapplers, so it's good to get guys like Saunders and Davis onto the main card.

[goh]

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Mark Coleman must be among the most active in the UFC during recent times.

In fact, ...who is the most active UFC fighter? I know some are more active than others, but it seems like the busiest guys do 4 a year.
Is anyone doing 5 and over?

Koscheck had 4 in 2008 but only 1 this year.
Krzysztof has 4 since december.
This will be Coleman's 3rd this year so he's tied with Krzysztof who I would guess would want to go again this december.

[DTX3]

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Looks like Coleman is out of 106.

If Tito Ortiz plans to make his much-anticipated return to the Octagon at UFC 106 on November 21, he’ll have to do it against someone other than Mark Coleman.

Mike DiSabato from MMA Authentics has confirmed that “The Hammer” has a second degree tear of his medial collateral ligament (MCL) and will be unable to compete at the upcoming event in Las Vegas.

While Ortiz “tweeted” earlier today that Coleman had “sissied out,” DiSabato contends that the “Godfather of ground and pound” asked to have the bout rescheduled for January 2 to allow the injury to heal.

At this time, the UFC has yet to announce any changes to the scheduled fight card or confirm the injury report.

UFC 106 will feature a main event heavyweight title bout between two absolute monsters as champion Brock Lesnar will look to defend his gold for the second time against his newest challenger, Shane Carwin.

[Sandman42]

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Ortiz vs. Forrest now.

http://sports.yahoo.com/mma/news;_ylt=Aq7tZMc_VIdVSORJd1qFV2Y5nYcB?slug=ki-ortizgriffin100809&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

[DJ]

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Ortiz vs. Forrest now.

http://sports.yahoo.com/mma/news;_yl...yhoo&type=lgns

Definitely a tougher first fight back for Oritz than Coleman, but still one that he can win. Forrest needs another whoopin' after running out of the cage like a baby following his loss to Anderson Silva.

Their first fight was close but Tito did win. That first round, before he gassed, Tito looked the best I've seen him since before his first loss to Chuck. He owned Forrest on the ground and landed a lot of hard elbows.

If Tito gets this thing to the ground, it's a wrap. Standup, Forrest has an edge but I don't see him KO'ing Tito.

I'll go with Tito by UD in this one.