UFC on Versus - Vera vs Jones

[LingeringRegime]

Re: UFC on Versus - Vera vs Jones

Vera has 3 broken orbital bones from that elbow.

Wow.

I hate to say this, but if anyone ever dies in the Octagon, it would be someone like Bones that does it. His angles are brutal. I can't wait to see him against some top tier competition.

[sven]

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Aldo is easily my favorite fighter of the three.

[mgoblue]

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I hate the rule banning 12 to 6 elbows for 2 reasons. First, the strike isn't any more brutal than others in MMA. Second, Joe Rogan goes on and on and on about these strikes whenever a fighter does anything close.

[ex carrabba fan]

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I'm not trying to rain on anyone's parade AT ALL, but I feel as if UFC is trying to manufacture too much "hype" around Jones.

Even in the postfight questions, Rogan asked him about how Jones felt about all the "hype" and living up to it..

I found it all to be a turn off. Let the man breathe.

I understand why they would like to invest in Jones and his upside but it's just sort of gotten out of hand in my eyes.

[Pappy Knuckles]

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If Aldo beats Faber, he is my #1

That's an insane matchup. Despite two losses to Brown, Urijah is still easily one of the best fighters in that division. However, I feel like Aldo is on a mission right now. Urijah defeating him wouldn't shock me in the least bit, but I feel that it's his fight to lose.

Aldo is an incredible striker, but he also fights with intelligence. I thought that his pacing and strategy against Brown was great. He took his time, watched out for his power shots, and took him out when the opportunity presented itself. Aldo and Urijah both have very entertaining styles, I can't wait to see it go down. I don't know if Urijah has ever had to deal with someone who's faster than he is.

[Pappy Knuckles]

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I'm not trying to rain on anyone's parade AT ALL, but I feel as if UFC is trying to manufacture too much "hype" around Jones.

Even in the postfight questions, Rogan asked him about how Jones felt about all the "hype" and living up to it..

I found it all to be a turn off. Let the man breathe.

I understand why they would like to invest in Jones and his upside but it's just sort of gotten out of hand in my eyes.

UFC does the same thing to anybody who is on a roll. Jones is looking like a killer right now, so the more they hype him, the more money both he and the company makes. If he starts losing fights they'll put that energy into the next big thing.

[mgoblue]

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UFC does the same thing to anybody who is on a roll. Jones is looking like a killer right now, so the more they hype him, the more money both he and the company makes. If he starts losing fights they'll put that energy into the next big thing.

It's what every sport does to a young star...NBA rookies, NFL rookies, every other sport does this with young talent...

[BlueNGold]

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Which young stud do you guys "like" the best:
Jones, Aldo or Mousasi or other?

I love thinking about the future of MMA

Jones for me.

I remember the first fight of his that I seen against Stephen Bonnar and all I could say was "Wow". Plus he seems like a really nice, humble guy that knows he still has room to improve.

I love what he said last night about his potential and how he doesn't want to be the guy that never realizes his full potential.

[aholbert32]

Re: UFC on Versus - Vera vs Jones

I'm not trying to rain on anyone's parade AT ALL, but I feel as if UFC is trying to manufacture too much "hype" around Jones.

Even in the postfight questions, Rogan asked him about how Jones felt about all the "hype" and living up to it..

I found it all to be a turn off. Let the man breathe.

I understand why they would like to invest in Jones and his upside but it's just sort of gotten out of hand in my eyes.

Nah. The Hype is real. The guy has DESTROYED three legit UFC vets in Hammill, Bonner and Vera. People who do that deserve the hype they get.

[Sandman42]

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Which young stud do you guys "like" the best:
Jones, Aldo or Mousasi or other?

I love thinking about the future of MMA

I'd have to go with Aldo. He is one of the quickest strikers I have ever seen in MMA. His fight against Brown was something else to watch, just seeing how much quicker he was in landing shots than Brown. I can't wait for his fight against Faber.

[p_rushing]

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Mousasi, but will have to wait to see what he does in the UFC

[MC Fatigue]

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He did the same thing in the Heath Herring fight. Herring landed a couple of good shots and Kongo went into wrestler mode. He really doesn't like getting hit.

Well Kongo isn't a stand up fighter, really - so it's not surprising to see him go for the take down.

He's a ground and pound fighter. He strikes until he can close the distance, then he grapples and takes his opponent down and grounds and pounds. The UFC markets him as a big stand up guy, but he's not.

[allBthere]

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How could he make an argument? I love Jones but no way does this win make him leapfrog the winner of Rampage/Evans.

why not? Lets say Rampage wins - why does rampage get a shot? He is has ****ed-off and hurt the UFC. IMO he's also on the downhill ride to retirement. He's become so much less dynamic and I really think Machida or Rua would embarass him a little bit.

you made me think of this though - what about Rampage - Jones?

I wonder if Rua beats Machida (or gets credit for it at least) and gets the belt, maybe the UFC would consider doing a rubber match in the even that Rampage wins. In that scenario putting bones vs. ramp would make sense.

[aholbert32]

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why not? Lets say Rampage wins - why does rampage get a shot? He is has ****ed-off and hurt the UFC. IMO he's also on the downhill ride to retirement. He's become so much less dynamic and I really think Machida or Rua would embarass him a little bit.

you made me think of this though - what about Rampage - Jones?

I wonder if Rua beats Machida (or gets credit for it at least) and gets the belt, maybe the UFC would consider doing a rubber match in the even that Rampage wins. In that scenario putting bones vs. ramp would make sense.

What? Rampage has lost once since 05 and that was a controversial decision to Forrest. Most former UFC champs get a rematch after 2 wins. If he beats Evans, thats 3 wins in a row w/o a shot. His last 3 wins (Silva, Jardine and Evans) would be bigger wins than anyone Jones has beat. You dont give title shots based on whether you think the challenger can beat the champ. You get title shots if the challenger proves he's deserving of it by beating top competition. With a win over Evans, Rampage proves that.

People do this everytime after someone has a win and its happening again. The Vera win was impressive but lets get real. Other than his win over Mir years ago, his most impressive win was against Kristof Soszynski. He wasnt a top 5 LHW and was barely a top 10 one.

If I'm Ramp and the UFC doesnt give me a title shot after beating Evans, I'm retiring because thats politics keeping him from a shot. Let Jones beat a top 10 guy like a Griffin, Little Nog or Cane before we give him a shot against Machida.

[TheShizNo1]

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Never understood the hype with Vera.