I just think it was a crappy gameplan not equal wrestling. I dont know why they thought they could bumrush Cain. I know you didnt want to keep it standing long but I think Brock's exhaustion was an equal reason for the loss with Cain's technical punching.
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I just think it was a crappy gameplan not equal wrestling. I dont know why they thought they could bumrush Cain. I know you didnt want to keep it standing long but I think Brock's exhaustion was an equal reason for the loss with Cain's technical punching. -
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No. Brock's wrestling was vastly overrated when compared to Cain's. Brock wrestled in a lot weaker HW division than Cain. Also, Cain adapts his wrestling better to MMA. Brock is obviously a great wrestler, but taking down Frank Mir and Heath Herring is a lot different than talking down Cain Velasquez.
It was just ridiculous how many people counted Cain out because Brock was this super wrestler who can't be stopped.
The problem is, people thought that because Brock had like this weigh advantage that he'd be able to shoot and take down Cain with ease. It's not happening like that when both of them are really, really good wrestlers.
Brock is a really good HW still. Cain is the future though, and tonight is why he was so highly thought of.Comment
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Brock wrestled in a lot weaker HW division than Cain.Comment
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Was it a liver shot? Cain has excellent pin-point accuracy with those hands and feet. A liver shot is almost impossible to overcome.GO COLTS
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Cain was a Junior College National Champion and a 2x All American at ASU. Brock was a Junior College and NCAA National Champion and was an All American his junior year as well. To be a All American at the NCAA level you must place 8th or better at the national tournament.I've heard this "patience is a virtue" junk all my life. I'm happy to say I have no virtue, no scruples, and no desire to wait too long for anything. In my humble opinion instant gratification takes too long!
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Agree, Lesnar's gameplan of rushing him like that was the opposite of everything hes done in the past. I dont know who you give to Lesnar next as Im just not that interested in seeing him fight Mir again or Nelson for that matter. I guess you could always do a rematch with Carwin if he beats Nelson but Im only slightly interested in that one. I guess we will see.Comment
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And not to mention he missed an incredibly large chunk of training time while he was sick.
Calling Brock overrated, in any sense other than the fact that Cain proved the "unbeatable" calls were as nonsensical as most fans realized they were when said, is overreacting.
(Not saying you were, just piggy backing off your post)
Now, the important part of this fight: with guys like Cain, and Brock, and Dos Santos the next couple of years should be fun at the heavyweight division again.Comment
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Agree, Lesnar's gameplan of rushing him like that was the opposite of everything hes done in the past. I dont know who you give to Lesnar next as Im just not that interested in seeing him fight Mir again or Nelson for that matter. I guess you could always do a rematch with Carwin if he beats Nelson but Im only slightly interested in that one. I guess we will see.Comment
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Was it a liver shot? Cain has excellent pin-point accuracy with those hands and feet. A liver shot is almost impossible to overcome.Comment
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Brock will be back for sure. I just think that Cain is a bad matchup for him. Brock made the mistake of bullrushing too quick, and since Cain is patient and methodical he made him pay. If Cain can get by Dos Santos, he may have the belt for a lengthy time. If he loses the belt I can see Lesnar regain the belt.
Uneasy feelings for the win...
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The Hybrid made some noise in the HW division. Lesnar Vs. Shaub on the same card as Cain vs Junior. Just saying. Its not like the HW division is stacked with #1 contendersMLB: New York Mets
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If thats the case, then consider Cain the new El Guapo. Bas Rutten should be proud.GO COLTS
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No. Brock's wrestling was vastly overrated when compared to Cain's. Brock wrestled in a lot weaker HW division than Cain. Also, Cain adapts his wrestling better to MMA. Brock is obviously a great wrestler, but taking down Frank Mir and Heath Herring is a lot different than talking down Cain Velasquez.
It was just ridiculous how many people counted Cain out because Brock was this super wrestler who can't be stopped.I've heard this "patience is a virtue" junk all my life. I'm happy to say I have no virtue, no scruples, and no desire to wait too long for anything. In my humble opinion instant gratification takes too long!
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