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  • aholbert32
    (aka Alberto)
    • Jul 2002
    • 33106

    #16
    Re: Strikeforce 2/12/11 HW Tournament Round 1 (part 1)

    Originally posted by ex carrabba fan
    How is Strikeforce doing financially?

    Could this be one of their last hurrah's? I can't hate on this idea at all, to a fan they're giving us everything we could ever dream of in terms of seeing the very best they have to offer
    They arent doing great but they have Showtime and Viacom bankrolling them so they should be fine for a little while. The plan with this Tournament is to get Fedor a couple of wins and set up an eventual Fedor/Overeem PPV or CBS fight.

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    • ex carrabba fan
      I'll thank him for you
      • Oct 2004
      • 32744

      #17
      Re: Strikeforce 2/12/11 HW Tournament Round 1 (part 1)

      Thing is I would have really liked to see Fedor get the chance to avenge his loss before he fought Alistair.

      Fedor was in control in that match.. I'm still upset that he fell into that trap.

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      • aholbert32
        (aka Alberto)
        • Jul 2002
        • 33106

        #18
        Re: Strikeforce 2/12/11 HW Tournament Round 1 (part 1)

        Originally posted by ex carrabba fan
        Thing is I would have really liked to see Fedor get the chance to avenge his loss before he fought Alistair.

        Fedor was in control in that match.. I'm still upset that he fell into that trap.
        Thats SF's fault. Should have booked Fedor/Overeem when they had the chance. SF doesnt want Overeem to go another full yr without defending the belt and Werdum is the only reasonable challenger.

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        • ex carrabba fan
          I'll thank him for you
          • Oct 2004
          • 32744

          #19
          Re: Strikeforce 2/12/11 HW Tournament Round 1 (part 1)

          Well since they went this route with the tourney, which I am in favor of, I would have liked to see it set up like:

          Fedor v Silva
          AA v Werdum

          The winners of those face each other

          Alistair v Sergei
          Barnett v Rogers

          Making it possible for Fedor/Alistair to meet in the final

          That would have been ideal to me.

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          • Scoop_Brady
            MVP
            • Aug 2003
            • 1022

            #20
            Re: Strikeforce 2/12/11 HW Tournament Round 1 (part 1)

            I like the idea bt why, oh why, did Strikeforce set it up so that the winner of Fedor/Silva fights the winner of Overeem/Werdum and the winner of Arlovski/Kharitonov fights the winner of Barnett/Rogers? Wouldn't it make more sense to want to build up to a possible final fight of Fedor vs. Overeem or Werdum instead of having the winner of Overeem/Werdum fight Fedor in the 2nd round assuming Fedor gets by Silva?
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            • aholbert32
              (aka Alberto)
              • Jul 2002
              • 33106

              #21
              Re: Strikeforce 2/12/11 HW Tournament Round 1 (part 1)

              Originally posted by Scoop_Brady
              I like the idea bt why, oh why, did Strikeforce set it up so that the winner of Fedor/Silva fights the winner of Overeem/Werdum and the winner of Arlovski/Kharitonov fights the winner of Barnett/Rogers? Wouldn't it make more sense to want to build up to a possible final fight of Fedor vs. Overeem or Werdum instead of having the winner of Overeem/Werdum fight Fedor in the 2nd round assuming Fedor gets by Silva?
              This way is better. 1) You get an almost guaranteed Fedor v. Werdum/Overeem fight. 2) Your way requires Fedor to win two more fights to get a shot at the belt. 3) You would potentially give 4 fighters with less of a claim to a title shot before Fedor. Barnett hasnt fought in over a year in the US. This is Kharitonov's first fight in SF. Rogers has lost to both Fedor and Overeem and Arlovski is coming off 2 straight losses.

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              • Sandman42
                Hall Of Fame
                • Aug 2004
                • 15186

                #22
                Re: Strikeforce 2/12/11 HW Tournament Round 1 (part 1)

                Originally posted by Scoop_Brady
                I like the idea bt why, oh why, did Strikeforce set it up so that the winner of Fedor/Silva fights the winner of Overeem/Werdum and the winner of Arlovski/Kharitonov fights the winner of Barnett/Rogers? Wouldn't it make more sense to want to build up to a possible final fight of Fedor vs. Overeem or Werdum instead of having the winner of Overeem/Werdum fight Fedor in the 2nd round assuming Fedor gets by Silva?
                I thought about this also, but I think its because Strikeforce wants to try and make the most compelling fights with the least amount of risk. They don't want to risk someone like Rogers or Barnett pulling off an upset, ruining the chances of Fedor vs/ Overeem/Werdum.
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                • Scoop_Brady
                  MVP
                  • Aug 2003
                  • 1022

                  #23
                  Re: Strikeforce 2/12/11 HW Tournament Round 1 (part 1)

                  Now that they have said that the belt is on the line from the beginning this makes more sense.
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                  • Sandman42
                    Hall Of Fame
                    • Aug 2004
                    • 15186

                    #24
                    Re: Strikeforce 2/12/11 HW Tournament Round 1 (part 1)

                    Yea. Now it makes it like Overeem vs. Werdum for the title with Fedor/Silva being the #1 contender fight. Then the other side of the bracket is to set up the next contender after that. I really don't have much interest in seeing any of Rogers, Barnett, Kharitanov, or Glass Joe fighting for the title.
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                    • ex carrabba fan
                      I'll thank him for you
                      • Oct 2004
                      • 32744

                      #25
                      Re: Strikeforce 2/12/11 HW Tournament Round 1 (part 1)

                      Still disappointed with the brackets.

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                      • bkfount
                        All Star
                        • Oct 2004
                        • 8467

                        #26
                        Re: Strikeforce 2/12/11 HW Tournament Round 1 (part 1)

                        well it's still a HW tourney, which is awesome. If it actually rolls off as planned, it's great for SF and MMA. I just hope that given how M1 was likely in on this being put together, there won't be any BS when Fedor has to face either Overeem or Werdum.

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                        • Phillmattic
                          MVP
                          • May 2003
                          • 1071

                          #27
                          Re: Strikeforce 2/12/11 HW Tournament Round 1 (part 1)

                          So how does Werdum approach this fight against Overeem? I really don't see Werdum getting this to the ground and there is no way he stands with Overeem for three rounds.
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                          • Sandman42
                            Hall Of Fame
                            • Aug 2004
                            • 15186

                            #28
                            Re: Strikeforce 2/12/11 HW Tournament Round 1 (part 1)

                            Originally posted by Phillmattic
                            So how does Werdum approach this fight against Overeem? I really don't see Werdum getting this to the ground and there is no way he stands with Overeem for three rounds.
                            Same way he fought Fedor. Try and bait Overeem into jumping into his guard.
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                            • aholbert32
                              (aka Alberto)
                              • Jul 2002
                              • 33106

                              #29
                              Re: Strikeforce 2/12/11 HW Tournament Round 1 (part 1)

                              Originally posted by Sandman42
                              Same way he fought Fedor. Try and bait Overeem into jumping into his guard.
                              You think Reem will fall for it? I cant see anyone doing that after Fedor fell for it.

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                              • Phillmattic
                                MVP
                                • May 2003
                                • 1071

                                #30
                                Re: Strikeforce 2/12/11 HW Tournament Round 1 (part 1)

                                Originally posted by aholbert32
                                You think Reem will fall for it? I cant see anyone doing that after Fedor fell for it.
                                Yeah, no way Overeem jumps into his guard. And even if he does, in a cage he'll probably just press Werdum against it and beat the **** out of him.
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