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  • XFactah416
    MVP
    • Oct 2008
    • 1708

    #166
    Re: Strikeforce and M-1 Global: Fedor vs. Silva - Feb 12, 2011

    Fedor is a legend.

    However, Fedor has been slowing down, starting from the Arlovski fight IMO. Arlovski was doing well before he jumped into the flying overhand right of death. Rogers was holding his own before getting killed by that overhand right of death. He's losing his speed and that's what made Fedor so dangerous. (and he's becoming insanely predictable too)

    The Werdum fight was him getting overanxious, but this time.. Big Foot showed how important size + skill is. It's one thing to fight Hong Man Choi, Gary Goodridge, Zulu, etc.. and it's another whole thing to fight someone like Big Foot. Big Foot is good and very talented.. although in reality not this unstoppable force. Fedor should have won this fight back in say like 2007.

    Fedor ain't stepping in there with Overeem, and it's a shame that we'll never get to see that fight. He'd be crazy to. Then again, I'm not even sure if Overeem gets past Werdum anyway..

    And no, Fedor won't be dropping to 205. He's never cut weight before in his life. Cutting weight is a science and Fedor trains out in obscurity. Even then, who says that cutting weight solves all your problems? He could easily look lethargic and drained out. I also don't think Fedor loves fighting to the point where he would want to drain himself out before fights. He's said it himself as fighting really isn't the number one priority in his life.

    I'm also disappointed to see Andrei lose again. AA's standup defense is AWFUL and it's a shame because Andrei has so many good tools..
    Last edited by XFactah416; 02-13-2011, 05:05 AM.

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    • daniverson1973
      GO RAYS!!!
      • Sep 2007
      • 1296

      #167
      Re: Strikeforce and M-1 Global: Fedor vs. Silva - Feb 12, 2011

      "I have a chin like a truck bumper, and the strength of a BigFoot"

      I LOVE IT

      http://www.mixedmartialarts.com/news/302469/Silva-I-have-a-chin-like-a-truck-bumper-and-the-stength-of-a-bigfoot/
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      • daniverson1973
        GO RAYS!!!
        • Sep 2007
        • 1296

        #168
        Re: Strikeforce and M-1 Global: Fedor vs. Silva - Feb 12, 2011

        i dont see Overeem or anybody (in strikeforce) stopping this guy
        I'd rather see him fight Overeem in the HWGP final, but If he matches up with Werdum for a 'rematch', he has chance for some redemption, and silence any doubters
        sorry but i dont give Kharitonov any chance at all
        If Barnett meets him in the final that could present and extremely interesting matchup

        I think Pezao is better than Lesnar (and i love lesnar)

        too bad dana & Coker couldnt cross promote a fight between Cain and Bigfoot

        BrownPride proved he can handle a big man like Brock with one condition: he tore his shoulder badly and cannot fight again until late this year or next
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        anyway-if he wins the tournament, i can see Bigfoot dominating & defending the top of strikeforce for a long time, and bringing more popularity&respect to the organization
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        • CaptainZombie
          Brains
          • Jul 2003
          • 37851

          #169
          Re: Strikeforce and M-1 Global: Fedor vs. Silva - Feb 12, 2011

          Originally posted by daniverson1973
          i dont see Overeem or anybody (in strikeforce) stopping this guy
          I'd rather see him fight Overeem in the HWGP final, but If he matches up with Werdum for a 'rematch', he has chance for some redemption, and silence any doubters
          sorry but i dont give Kharitonov any chance at all
          If Barnett meets him in the final that could present and extremely interesting matchup

          I think Pezao is better than Lesnar (and i love lesnar)

          too bad dana & Coker couldnt cross promote a fight between Cain and Bigfoot

          BrownPride proved he can handle a big man like Brock with one condition: he tore his shoulder badly and cannot fight again until late this year or next
          _________________
          anyway-if he wins the tournament, i can see Bigfoot dominating & defending the top of strikeforce for a long time, and bringing more popularity&respect to the organization
          My man, it will never happen with a UFC/SF cross promotion.
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          • daniverson1973
            GO RAYS!!!
            • Sep 2007
            • 1296

            #170
            Re: Strikeforce and M-1 Global: Fedor vs. Silva - Feb 12, 2011

            Originally posted by CaptainZombie
            My man, it will never happen with a UFC/SF cross promotion.
            I know,..I'll let it go....

            but i can dream an play UFC vs SF in video games...

            either way, i freaking love the sport, MMA, more now than i ever have, and cant get enough of it, in real life and gaming
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            • Gibbz
              All Star
              • Aug 2005
              • 8240

              #171
              Re: Strikeforce and M-1 Global: Fedor vs. Silva - Feb 12, 2011

              I don't think anyone in Strikeforce has anything for Overeem, even considering what Bigfoot did to Fedor.

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              • Azamien
                MVP
                • Mar 2005
                • 1475

                #172
                Re: Strikeforce and M-1 Global: Fedor vs. Silva - Feb 12, 2011

                Originally posted by DEFTFUNDAMENTALZ
                "This is history, this may be the last time we see him."

                Wow they are reaching for any and everything. Let the man make it official before it becomes history.
                Fedor had just said it might be the last time. He said it at least twice, once when asked to clarify what he said the first time. There's absolutely nothing wrong with Gus following up on that with that you quoted.
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                • Scoop_Brady
                  MVP
                  • Aug 2003
                  • 1022

                  #173
                  Re: Strikeforce and M-1 Global: Fedor vs. Silva - Feb 12, 2011

                  I can't say that I'm surprised by the results last night. I really wanted to see Arlovski pick up the win but he just doesn't have the chin anymore. Time to hang them up for him.

                  As far as Fedor is concerned, he has nobody to blame but himself and M-1. Ever since Pride ended he fought a bunch of cans. That's no way to stay on top of your game. It's like the streak and making money off of Fedor became so important to M-1 that they protected him to keep it going. His last 3 big wins are against Tim Sylvia, Arlovski, and Rogers. Sylvia is a joke and should retire. Arlovski has no more chin, was dominating Fedor before jumping in and getting knocked out, and Rogers had a good record against a bunch of nobodies outside of Arlovski.

                  I would love to see where Fedor would be today had he continued to fight top competition right after Pride ended. He might have lost one or two but I think he'd be at the top of his game and at the top of the weight class. Sucks we'll never know.
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                  • daniverson1973
                    GO RAYS!!!
                    • Sep 2007
                    • 1296

                    #174
                    Re: Strikeforce and M-1 Global: Fedor vs. Silva - Feb 12, 2011

                    Originally posted by Gibbz
                    I don't think anyone in Strikeforce has anything for Overeem, even considering what Bigfoot did to Fedor.
                    strong words

                    i hope we see a Overeem-Bigfoot match for the title
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                    • aholbert32
                      (aka Alberto)
                      • Jul 2002
                      • 33106

                      #175
                      Re: Strikeforce and M-1 Global: Fedor vs. Silva - Feb 12, 2011

                      Thats the problem with fighting outside of the UFC. If you lose once or twice in the UFC, its not as bad because people assume you are fighting the best guys in the sport. Lose outside of it and people assume you are fighting cans. Silva is not a can but he also hasnt beat anyone before winning last night.

                      I'm actually happy with last night results. Scott Coker screwed up this tournament format and deserves what he got. No Fedor and if Overeem loses, there are no more big name fighters in this tournament. I dont think anyone wants to see a Silva-Kharitonov final.

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                      • redsrule
                        All Star
                        • Apr 2010
                        • 9396

                        #176
                        Re: Strikeforce and M-1 Global: Fedor vs. Silva - Feb 12, 2011

                        ^I agree with you there. They are also screwed if overeem wins the whole thing. Thats why Coker said Fedor would be a reserve fighter, even though he lost.
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                        • XFactah416
                          MVP
                          • Oct 2008
                          • 1708

                          #177
                          Re: Strikeforce and M-1 Global: Fedor vs. Silva - Feb 12, 2011

                          Originally posted by redsrule
                          ^I agree with you there. They are also screwed if overeem wins the whole thing. Thats why Coker said Fedor would be a reserve fighter, even though he lost.
                          Why are they screwed if Overeem wins?

                          Overeem is seen by many as the one of the best HWs in the world despite no actual MMA (note, I said MMA, not K-1) accomplishments outside of beating up Brett Rogers (whoop dee do). If anything, it brings legitimacy if Alistair wins. However, as I mentioned before, I wouldn't be shocked if Werdum beats Overeem in all honesty, since again, it's all fine and dandy that Overeem is an awesome striker, but MMA is different and we still haven't seen Overeem in any sort of adversity.

                          They're screwed that Fedor lost because Fedor vs Overeem was the dream fight and the "ideal" matchup. THAT was the fight that people wanted to see before Fedor lost to Werdum and got pounded on by Big Foot. Werdum was supposed to be a gimme for Fedor as Werdum doesn't have much striking to speak of and most would've assumed that Fedor wouldn't drop down into a world class BJJ practitioners guard.

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                          • redsrule
                            All Star
                            • Apr 2010
                            • 9396

                            #178
                            Re: Strikeforce and M-1 Global: Fedor vs. Silva - Feb 12, 2011

                            Originally posted by XFactah416
                            Why are they screwed if Overeem wins?

                            Overeem is seen by many as the one of the best HWs in the world despite no actual MMA (note, I said MMA, not K-1) accomplishments outside of beating up Brett Rogers (whoop dee do). If anything, it brings legitimacy if Alistair wins. However, as I mentioned before, I wouldn't be shocked if Werdum beats Overeem in all honesty, since again, it's all fine and dandy that Overeem is an awesome striker, but MMA is different and we still haven't seen Overeem in any sort of adversity.

                            They're screwed that Fedor lost because Fedor vs Overeem was the dream fight and the "ideal" matchup. THAT was the fight that people wanted to see before Fedor lost to Werdum and got pounded on by Big Foot. Werdum was supposed to be a gimme for Fedor as Werdum doesn't have much striking to speak of and most would've assumed that Fedor wouldn't drop down into a world class BJJ practitioners guard.
                            They are screwed if overeem wins because the winner of the tournament gets the title shot at overeem. If overeem wins, he cant fight himself...
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                            • The Chef
                              Moderator
                              • Sep 2003
                              • 13684

                              #179
                              Re: Strikeforce and M-1 Global: Fedor vs. Silva - Feb 12, 2011

                              Originally posted by redsrule
                              They are screwed if overeem wins because the winner of the tournament gets the title shot at overeem. If overeem wins, he cant fight himself...
                              The whole thing is silly really. If he wins then they have to figure out a #1 contender and its going to be between a bunch of losers from the tournament. If he loses then there is a clear cut #1 contender but the champ lost in the tournament so he shouldnt even have the belt anymore. The whole thing is ridiculous imo.
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                              • CaptainZombie
                                Brains
                                • Jul 2003
                                • 37851

                                #180
                                Re: Strikeforce and M-1 Global: Fedor vs. Silva - Feb 12, 2011

                                Strikeforce would greatly benefit from a production revamping, especially ditching both Frank Shamrock and Gus Johnson. Shamrock just pisses me off to no end with his stupid comments and ridiculous jokes.

                                I don't mind women's MMA, but that video and hype for Gina's return was just kind of horrible.

                                I agree that they are totally screwed if Overeem wins this. The title should have been on the line throughout the tournament if your going to have Overeem in it or have it the winner gets a shot at his title without him being in it.
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