Strikeforce and M-1 Global: Fedor vs. Silva - Feb 12, 2011

[Phillmattic]

Re: Strikeforce and M-1 Global: Fedor vs. Silva - Feb 12, 2011

StrikeForce continuing to progress in the ratings department.

Good news for MMA.

http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2011/2/15...ords-with-over

So far so good for Strikeforce in 2011. Their first major show of the year, Diaz vs Cyborg got the second best ratings of an MMA event in Showtime history. Now it looks like Fedor vs Silva broke all records for MMA on Showtime.

MMA Junkie has the details:

Overall, the Feb. 12 event averaged 741,000 viewers and peaked with 1.1 million for the Antonio Silva vs. Fedor Emelianenko headliner. Both broke Strikeforce's previous bests on Showtime.
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The new ratings records break those previously held by "Strikeforce: Carano vs. Cyborg," an August 2009 event headlined by female fighters Gina Carano and Cristiane "Cyborg" Santos that averaged 576,000 viewers and peaked with 856,000.

[mgoblue]

Re: Strikeforce and M-1 Global: Fedor vs. Silva - Feb 12, 2011

What's even better is now Coker is talking about Fedor fighting the loser of Overeem v Werdum. So there is a chance that Fedor will get a title shot if Overeem loses Werdum

Wow, that is an amazingly stupid fight IMO. You don't see Dana White putting up something like this.

Both Fedor and the loser of Overeem/Werdum would need to be built back up. this fight would pretty much push the loser into a downward spiral.

Each loser should have a less high profile fight, if they care at all about their careers and future stardom.

[Sandman42]

Re: Strikeforce and M-1 Global: Fedor vs. Silva - Feb 12, 2011

That's exactly what I'm saying. If Brock took Fedor down it would be over because Fedor can't match his strength or size. Just like he couldn't do anything with Silva on top of him. If Brock for some reason decided to stand up with him then Fedor would have a chance but, I don't think Brock is that stupid.



Agreed. Silva needs to win the tournament to justify that ranking. And FWIW, Fight Magazine also has Dan Henderson as the 3rd ranking LWH. Maybe someone from that site is on the SF payroll

Silva's top control is much better than Lesnar's though. Couture was able to get back up on Lesnar and he's even smaller than Fedor. So it might be easier for Fedor to get up. Of course Fedor doesn't have great technique in getting up from the bottom, he mostly tries to throw submissions and he did look lost in trying to escape from Silva's mount. It seriously looked like the EA MMA video game were you get stuck in mount and are constantly switching from back control to mount multiple times.

[CaptainZombie]

Re: Strikeforce and M-1 Global: Fedor vs. Silva - Feb 12, 2011

Silva's top control is much better than Lesnar's though. Couture was able to get back up on Lesnar and he's even smaller than Fedor. So it might be easier for Fedor to get up. Of course Fedor doesn't have great technique in getting up from the bottom, he mostly tries to throw submissions and he did look lost in trying to escape from Silva's mount. It seriously looked like the EA MMA video game were you get stuck in mount and are constantly switching from back control to mount multiple times.

LOL! You nailed it right there.

[jeremym480]

Re: Strikeforce and M-1 Global: Fedor vs. Silva - Feb 12, 2011

Wow, that is an amazingly stupid fight IMO. You don't see Dana White putting up something like this.

Both Fedor and the loser of Overeem/Werdum would need to be built back up. this fight would pretty much push the loser into a downward spiral.

Each loser should have a less high profile fight, if they care at all about their careers and future stardom.

Do you remember the Brett Rodgers debacle? SF isn't the sharpest tools in the shed if you know what I'm sayin

[daniverson1973]

Re: Strikeforce and M-1 Global: Fedor vs. Silva - Feb 12, 2011

Do you remember the Brett Rodgers debacle? SF isn't the sharpest tools in the shed if you know what I'm sayin

brett rodgers is a tool, the fight with Overeem was a great laugh

[Phillmattic]

Re: Strikeforce and M-1 Global: Fedor vs. Silva - Feb 12, 2011

I hate when people say fighters need to be built back up like this is pro wrestling.

We already know that a fighter is elite, just put him in there with elite competition.

[aholbert32]

Re: Strikeforce and M-1 Global: Fedor vs. Silva - Feb 12, 2011

I hate when people say fighters need to be built back up like this is pro wrestling.

We already know that a fighter is elite, just put him in there with elite competition.

I dont completely agree. Losing takes the shine off most fighters. If Fedor beat both Werdum and Silva the anticipation for a fight against Overeem would be much higher. Get him a couple of wins and people will start saying thinking "Fedor's back". It may not be true but people will start to think it and it makes them more encouraged to watch the next fight.

Its much easier to promote a fighter saying "He's on a 5 fight win streak" than "He lost his last two fights".

[Mr5000]

Re: Strikeforce and M-1 Global: Fedor vs. Silva - Feb 12, 2011

I dont completely agree. Losing takes the shine off most fighters. If Fedor beat both Werdum and Silva the anticipation for a fight against Overeem would be much higher. Get him a couple of wins and people will start saying thinking "Fedor's back". It may not be true but people will start to think it and it makes them more encouraged to watch the next fight.

Its much easier to promote a fighter saying "He's on a 5 fight win streak" than "He lost his last two fights".

That's how I feel about it

[mgoblue]

Re: Strikeforce and M-1 Global: Fedor vs. Silva - Feb 12, 2011

I dont completely agree. Losing takes the shine off most fighters. If Fedor beat both Werdum and Silva the anticipation for a fight against Overeem would be much higher. Get him a couple of wins and people will start saying thinking "Fedor's back". It may not be true but people will start to think it and it makes them more encouraged to watch the next fight.

Its much easier to promote a fighter saying "He's on a 5 fight win streak" than "He lost his last two fights".

Exactly...plus IMO Fedor needs to get his swagger back, either through training or whatever. You don't really do that against Werdum or Overeem...

[Scoop_Brady]

Re: Strikeforce and M-1 Global: Fedor vs. Silva - Feb 12, 2011

IMO if a fighter loses a close fight they shouldn't fall down the ladder very far if at all. In Fedor's case, he has had his *** handed to him 2 fights in-a-row and needs to build himself back up. Maybe he didn't get his *** handed to him by Werdum but he was subbed in under a minute so that's good enough for me.

[daniverson1973]

Re: Strikeforce and M-1 Global: Fedor vs. Silva - Feb 12, 2011

yah, Fedor was 'suprisingly' beaten very badly, but 'it did take 2 full rounds' for Silva to get a doctor stoppage and get awarded the victory

Silva is just a lot better and skilled than people think, and if he wins this whole thing, i'll bet he's UFC bound once his SF contract is up...he has a big upside

I think Fedor should come back for at least one more fight or two, and if he really is serious about retirement, go out with a bang, a big victory, like over Alistair or a rematch victory over Silva

[CaptainZombie]

Re: Strikeforce and M-1 Global: Fedor vs. Silva - Feb 12, 2011

This tournament is a joke at this point.

http://www.mmatorch.com/artman2/publish/Affliction2/article_8581.shtml

A report from Sherdog.com last week suggesting the second set of quarterfinal bouts for the Heavyweight World Grand Prix would be delayed has been supported by a separate report from Mike Chiappetta at MMAFighting.com.

According to Chiappetta's report, no final decision has been made on that front, but signs are pointing to the delay being the likely scenario.

Currently, multiple fights are being rumored for an April 9 event, which is now expected to come to the Oracle Arena in Oakland, Calif., and with them filling up and running in California, it looks like there won't be room for the Josh Barnett vs. Brett Rogers and Alistair Overeem vs. Fabricio Werdum fights.

At the very least, running the event in California makes it impossible to book Barnett on the card, as he has not settled issues with the California State Athletic Commission, and his next opportunity to do so wouldn't be until their April 18 meeting.

Adding fuel to the delay is a post from ESPN's Josh Gross on Twitter, who revealed that Strikeforce has secured a June 18 date for an event at the American Airlines Center in Dallas, Texas. Additionally, Gross stated that the Texas State Athletic Commission would license Barnett, but he does not have confirmation that the Grand Prix fights would take place on that event.

But regardless of where the second set of quarterfinal bouts take place, the longer they take to happen, the longer it takes to get the semifinal bouts together, and the longer it takes for the tournament to finish.

[SidVish]

Re: Strikeforce and M-1 Global: Fedor vs. Silva - Feb 12, 2011

Good to see Strikeforce is on top of things. Barnum and Bailey would be proud.

[bkfount]

Re: Strikeforce and M-1 Global: Fedor vs. Silva - Feb 12, 2011

Disappointing, but not at all unexpected. A fast PRIDE style GP in a major promotion just isn't going to happen in the US ever. It's annoying how SF seemingly hasn't even planned this out properly, and is pulling the whole thing out of their ***. Apparently going to Japan relied on Fedor winning, and having issues with getting Barnett licensed is a laughable lack of planning.

The GP loses some steam, but Texas was always the obvious place for the Barnett fight in the US. They might as well "stack" the card with Carano and Herschel Walker, and there's apparently some noise about it ending up on CBS too.

Eh, I'll still watch it.