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  • ex carrabba fan
    I'll thank him for you
    • Oct 2004
    • 32744

    #16
    Re: UFC agrees to deal with FOX?

    Originally posted by TheShizNo1
    Everyone doesn't know what MMA is. They know what UFC is.
    I agree.

    And in the past I'm pretty sure that's hurt the UFC and the sport overall.

    People tuning into Kimbo Slice or any other event on network TV in the past probably assumed, "oh this is that UFC thing that people have been talking about", and proceed to witness a giant cluster****. They witnessed guys who were nowhere near the elite of the sport and might have been extremely turned off.

    I'm just glad the UFC will finally be able to say "OK this is truly us, this is what MMA should look and feel like, we have the best MMAers on the planet. Let us put on a real show". As Aaron said, now this will be the litmus test as to how America reacts to MMA.

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    • VanCitySportsGuy
      NYG_Meth
      • Feb 2003
      • 9351

      #17
      Re: UFC agrees to deal with FOX?

      I noticed none of the reports mentions if Zuffa is going to control the production of the events. I'm assuming the answer is yes.

      I'm also going to guess that the cards will air on Sat nights and not during any month of Sweeps. As much as a I love the UFC, I don't see it pulling in big numbers.

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      • LingeringRegime
        Hall Of Fame
        • Jun 2007
        • 17089

        #18
        Re: UFC agrees to deal with FOX?

        This is such great news for the sport.

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        • aholbert32
          (aka Alberto)
          • Jul 2002
          • 33106

          #19
          Re: UFC agrees to deal with FOX?

          Originally posted by VanCitySportsGuy
          I noticed none of the reports mentions if Zuffa is going to control the production of the events. I'm assuming the answer is yes.

          I'm also going to guess that the cards will air on Sat nights and not during any month of Sweeps. As much as a I love the UFC, I don't see it pulling in big numbers.
          Yep, Dana and Lorenzo stated they will never let a network control production.

          I see them pulling huge numbers for Saturdays which is all Fox wants. If they do 6 million thats a huge win for both the UFC and Fox. The schedule will probably be a card in January (the weekend in between the Championship game and the NFL), April (Avoiding May Sweeps), August (Avoiding Football) and December (Avoiding College Football).

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          • aholbert32
            (aka Alberto)
            • Jul 2002
            • 33106

            #20
            Re: UFC agrees to deal with FOX?

            Originally posted by VanCitySportsGuy
            This is great news. I've never heard of the Fuel Channel and couldn't name a single show on FX but I'm assuming Sportsnet will still cover all of the events.

            White has always said if they the UFC is on Network TV, they will have PPV quality cards.

            I know the UFC is going to load up the first show. I would be shocked if Lesnar isn't on it. The bad news for the UFC is that every big fight that is on Fox takes away a big fight that could have been on PPV. The PPV business is where Zuffa makes their money.

            PPV sales in 2011 are on pace to be down from 2010. Having big fights on Fox could hurt PPV sales in 2012 and beyond. If you're a casual fan and you get 4 big cards on Fox and let's say 8 Fight Night type cards a year, is there even an incentive to pay for PPV's?

            Some of the cards today aren't that good because most fighters aren't active enough. Zuffa needs to address this problem. If you're healthy, you should be fighting 3 times a year.

            Another issue I want to see the UFC address is some sort of season ticket for PPV's. Off the top of my head, I've paid for almost every PPV this year but I don't get any perks for doing it. For my loyalty (I spend a lot of money on UFC products where it's PPV's, Live Events, Fan Expo, etc..), I want to be rewarded with either a discount or free swag.
            There are still incentives to buy PPV's depending on the fight. PPV sales are down because of injuries. Look at last year: Before August 2010, we had a Lesnar fight, a Rampage-Rashad fight, a card with both BJ Penn and Anderson Silva on it and one St. Pierre fight. This year, weve only had one St. Pierre fight. Rampage fought Hamill and BJ fought Fitch which both hurt sales. Sales will pick up starting with the Jones/Rampage fight. The rest of the year will be huge if it stays injury free.

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            • aholbert32
              (aka Alberto)
              • Jul 2002
              • 33106

              #21
              Re: UFC agrees to deal with FOX?

              Deal will be announced officially on Thursday at 1. Wonder how this affects the next season of TUF. Will Spike promote a lame duck season?

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              • ex carrabba fan
                I'll thank him for you
                • Oct 2004
                • 32744

                #22
                Re: UFC agrees to deal with FOX?

                Originally posted by aholbert32
                Yep, Dana and Lorenzo stated they will never let a network control production.

                I see them pulling huge numbers for Saturdays which is all Fox wants. If they do 6 million thats a huge win for both the UFC and Fox. The schedule will probably be a card in January (the weekend in between the Championship game and the NFL), April (Avoiding May Sweeps), August (Avoiding Football) and December (Avoiding College Football).
                Yeah I remember Dana being really emphatic about not letting anyone control their telecasts/presentation/show.

                It's well noted that this was a problem with a potential deal with HBO in the past.

                I have to assume FOX is gonna let UFC do what the please. Also I'm undecided on how they'll do the first time around on SAT night. I could see it going either way but I would lean more towards it being a success.

                Depending on how often the promote with commercials and the internet, and who they put on the card, I could easily see it being a homerun.

                Why wouldn't it be a success?

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                • redsrule
                  All Star
                  • Apr 2010
                  • 9396

                  #23
                  Re: UFC agrees to deal with FOX?

                  Originally posted by aholbert32
                  Deal will be announced officially on Thursday at 1. Wonder how this affects the next season of TUF. Will Spike promote a lame duck season?
                  That will be interesting. Considering they were already showing stuff for the new one.
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                  • VanCitySportsGuy
                    NYG_Meth
                    • Feb 2003
                    • 9351

                    #24
                    Re: UFC agrees to deal with FOX?

                    Originally posted by aholbert32
                    There are still incentives to buy PPV's depending on the fight. PPV sales are down because of injuries. Look at last year: Before August 2010, we had a Lesnar fight, a Rampage-Rashad fight, a card with both BJ Penn and Anderson Silva on it and one St. Pierre fight. This year, weve only had one St. Pierre fight. Rampage fought Hamill and BJ fought Fitch which both hurt sales. Sales will pick up starting with the Jones/Rampage fight. The rest of the year will be huge if it stays injury free.
                    I do agree the injuries have hurt the PPV sales. I still dislike the fighters not staying active. I remember watching an interview with Dana a couple weeks ago and even he said if a fighter is healthy, they should be fighting 3 times a year.

                    I'm interested to see if Jones/Rampage gets a million buys. Since Jones won the title, he was on Leno, a K-Swiss commericial, and a Bud Light commericial. He has the look and talent to become the biggest star in the UFC.

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                    • aholbert32
                      (aka Alberto)
                      • Jul 2002
                      • 33106

                      #25
                      Re: UFC agrees to deal with FOX?

                      Originally posted by VanCitySportsGuy
                      I do agree the injuries have hurt the PPV sales. I still dislike the fighters not staying active. I remember watching an interview with Dana a couple weeks ago and even he said if a fighter is healthy, they should be fighting 3 times a year.

                      I'm interested to see if Jones/Rampage gets a million buys. Since Jones won the title, he was on Leno, a K-Swiss commericial, and a Bud Light commericial. He has the look and talent to become the biggest star in the UFC.
                      I have Jones/Rampage at 700-800k. Still don't know if Jones is a PPV draw yet. But I would not be surprised if it did one million.

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                      • p_rushing
                        Hall Of Fame
                        • Feb 2004
                        • 14514

                        #26
                        Re: UFC agrees to deal with FOX?

                        This is what the UFC needs to grow. They need to put big names on the cards and take the hit to PPV numbers. Then if they do good numbers, they can grow and get bigger contracts. Then if they get big enough, they can remove all PPVs. PPVs are not a good model because you are always going to be limiting your viewers. It has a cap on the amount of money you will make. The UFC will never get as big as the NFL, but I think they could approach the NHL numbers, 8 million for game 7 of finals. In order to get that big though, they need to get off PPV.

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                        • Gotmadskillzson
                          Live your life
                          • Apr 2008
                          • 23441

                          #27
                          Re: UFC agrees to deal with FOX?

                          For the most part, some fighters already fight 3 times a year. UFC's main problem in the past the champions only fight once a year. This year and last year they tried to make the champions fight at least twice a year.

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                          • aholbert32
                            (aka Alberto)
                            • Jul 2002
                            • 33106

                            #28
                            Re: UFC agrees to deal with FOX?

                            Originally posted by Gotmadskillzson
                            For the most part, some fighters already fight 3 times a year. UFC's main problem in the past the champions only fight once a year. This year and last year they tried to make the champions fight at least twice a year.
                            Thats not true. In 2009, Silva, GSP and Penn fought twice and the HW and LHW belts were defended twice.

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                            • Gotmadskillzson
                              Live your life
                              • Apr 2008
                              • 23441

                              #29
                              Re: UFC agrees to deal with FOX?

                              That was recently.........From 1997 to 2008....champions fought once a year. To be more specific, the heavyweight and lightheavyweight. Sometimes it was due to injuries which happens, other times because fighters were ducking other fighters.
                              Last edited by Gotmadskillzson; 08-16-2011, 06:35 PM.

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                              • aholbert32
                                (aka Alberto)
                                • Jul 2002
                                • 33106

                                #30
                                Re: UFC agrees to deal with FOX?

                                Originally posted by Gotmadskillzson
                                That was recently.........From 1997 to 2008....champions fought once a year. To be more specific, the heavyweight and lightheavyweight. Sometimes it was due to injuries which happens, other times because fighters were ducking other fighters.
                                From 2001-2008 (except for 2002), the light heavyweight belt was defended twice a year. Tito defended 3 times in 2001. Chuck defended it 3 times in 2006

                                With the exception of 2004 and 2009 (because of Brock's illness), the HW belt was defended twice a year from 1999-2011.

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