UFC 170: Rousey v. Mcmann/Evans vs.Cormier - February 22

[Gotmadskillzson]

Re: UFC 170: Rousey v. Mcmann/Evans vs.Cormier - February 22

I have interest in this card again. I want to see how DC holds up against another high caliber wrestler like himself.

[p_rushing]

Re: UFC 170: Rousey v. Mcmann/Evans vs.Cormier - February 22

Interesting comments from Cummins. I wonder what is going to happen with Cormier's head if it is true. Cormier may be better now without all that fat, but who knows. If Cummins shut him down and made him cry, look out.

[The Chef]

Re: UFC 170: Rousey v. Mcmann/Evans vs.Cormier - February 22

No protection comes from paying for the site and it actually leaves you more likely to be sued. The UFC could sue the site and get those records through a subpoena. If you registered, they will have all of you personal information and can file suit immediately. People who registered are pretty much sitting ducks for Zuffa because Zuffa now has your personal information and along with the site access records they dont have to go through any other steps to file suit or prove you accessed the site.

Here is what Zuffa has to go through if you dont register:

1) They have to sue the site you accessed
2) They have to subpoena the site and ask for all IP addresses that accessed the site to watch a specific UFC fight.
3) They then have to subpoena the cable/satellite provider and ask them to identify the owner of the IP Address. Most cable companies will object to that sort of request.
4) If they do provide the information, Zuffa could file suit but they face a tough burden of proof.....because just because my IP address accessed a site doesnt mean that I watched it. It couldve been someone else in my house. It couldve been someone else using or stealing my wifi etc.

This is similar to what the music biz did post Napster. They sued enough people to scare people away from using sites like Kazaa/Limewire to download music. They won a few cases by default because people didnt respond to the suit and waved those judgments around as if they were proof that their lawsuits were successful and to further scare people. This is what the UFC is doing now.

Again if you are going to access streams, dont provide your personal information. Even if you dont, there is a less than 1% chance you will get sued. That is your best bet (other than using IP changing/hiding software) to avoid a lawsuit.

Interesting, very much appreciate the knowledge drop. I guess I was a fool for having some sort of thinking that because I paid for it I was somehow protected. Gonna shoot you a PM to ask more questions as to not muddy up this thread.

[Pappy Knuckles]

Re: UFC 170: Rousey v. Mcmann/Evans vs.Cormier - February 22

The Chael thing isn't gonna happen. He is still in Brazil filming Tuf. It looks like they are just gonna move the fight to 172 or 173. I would love if they move it to 172 since I'm going.


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You almost got your wish. On Fox Sports Live, Dana said the original plan was to put DC/Rashad on the Baltimore card.

[ex carrabba fan]

Re: UFC 170: Rousey v. Mcmann/Evans vs.Cormier - February 22

Cummins has balls

Cormier may have caught some feelings

[Pappy Knuckles]

Re: UFC 170: Rousey v. Mcmann/Evans vs.Cormier - February 22

Cummins has balls

Cormier may have caught some feelings

Cormier took that **** to heart for sure lol. This Cummins guy is gonna get punished in there.

[aholbert32]

Re: UFC 170: Rousey v. Mcmann/Evans vs.Cormier - February 22

You almost got your wish. On Fox Sports Live, Dana said the original plan was to put DC/Rashad on the Baltimore card.

I was in tears earlier when I heard that Rashad was going to need surgery so they Baltimore was out. That wouldve been the most stacked card I've ever seen live. About equal to UFC 129 in Toronto.

[p_rushing]

Re: UFC 170: Rousey v. Mcmann/Evans vs.Cormier - February 22

here is the interview on FS1 if you didn't see it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dgBCEej1tnw

[Majingir]

Re: UFC 170: Rousey v. Mcmann/Evans vs.Cormier - February 22

lol, part of Rouseys interview:

[Pappy Knuckles]

Re: UFC 170: Rousey v. Mcmann/Evans vs.Cormier - February 22

Rashad is on the shelf for six months. I was hoping he'd be back a bit sooner. That's too bad.

[ex carrabba fan]

Re: UFC 170: Rousey v. Mcmann/Evans vs.Cormier - February 22

Since the card is coming up I thought I'd post here, but is anyone else worried about the state of the UFC? I'm taking everything into account and everything that's led up to this card. From small to big. I just get this feeling like the UFC isn't heading in a great direction.

I was watching the Countdown show for the card and even something was off about it. Just seemed so drab and the analysts on there made me so irritated. The most cookie cutter analysis they could find.

Overall it's like I'm not excited about the product right now.

From injuries, to production, to Dana, to the watered down cards... I'm getting worried. I am thinking the UFC is trying to evolve too fast for its own good. Like they bit off more than they could chew and the fact that they are trying to market to a broader audience I feel like is alienating its current fans. I can't even put my finger on any specific instance but overall, I haven't really been too hyped for these cards. It sucks but I can now freely admit to myself that I do not get that same feeling I used to with the UFC.

I think there is legit reason to be worried too is what makes me sick.

Edit: I forgot to add the biggest reason for me being worried: fighters just fighting not to lose. Champs are not exempt from this either. I think the rules need to be looked at to get more action.

[aholbert32]

Re: UFC 170: Rousey v. Mcmann/Evans vs.Cormier - February 22

Nah, I'm not worried. I actually dont think the cards are "watered down at all". Well not the Fox or PPV cards (the cards that matter). This wouldve been a great PPV if it wasnt for the Evans injury. The next Fox card in April is stacked. The next Jones card is stacked. I even like 4 of the 5 fights on the ppv portion of the Hendricks card in March. After that we have, Belfort/Weidman and Sonnen/W. Silva in May. Cain will be back by Fall. I think this some drop off is expected when 3 of your biggest draws (Cain, GSP, Silva) either retire or are injured in the last 6 mos.

The FS1 and Fight Pass cards are what they are. They are for hardcore fans and to help the sport grow internationally. Now there are a few things that I find troubling like the UFC's plans for a uniform and a few other things that are anti-fighter but for the most part I'm happy with the product.

[TheShizNo1]

Re: UFC 170: Rousey v. Mcmann/Evans vs.Cormier - February 22

I think they're doing great. There's UFC on all the time. I'm shocked if there's two weekends in a row and a card isn't on. I don't think the fights get watered-down either. With more cards, more fights, more fighters, just kind of a bigger chance that an injury happens. That's what hurts cards imo, not a watered down stretched out product.

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[DJ]

Re: UFC 170: Rousey v. Mcmann/Evans vs.Cormier - February 22

Since the card is coming up I thought I'd post here, but is anyone else worried about the state of the UFC? I'm taking everything into account and everything that's led up to this card. From small to big. I just get this feeling like the UFC isn't heading in a great direction.

I was watching the Countdown show for the card and even something was off about it. Just seemed so drab and the analysts on there made me so irritated. The most cookie cutter analysis they could find.

Overall it's like I'm not excited about the product right now.

From injuries, to production, to Dana, to the watered down cards... I'm getting worried. I am thinking the UFC is trying to evolve too fast for its own good. Like they bit off more than they could chew and the fact that they are trying to market to a broader audience I feel like is alienating its current fans. I can't even put my finger on any specific instance but overall, I haven't really been too hyped for these cards. It sucks but I can now freely admit to myself that I do not get that same feeling I used to with the UFC.

I think there is legit reason to be worried too is what makes me sick.

Edit: I forgot to add the biggest reason for me being worried: fighters just fighting not to lose. Champs are not exempt from this either. I think the rules need to be looked at to get more action.

Not worried, but definitely feel like the UFC is stagnant right now. Like 'Bert said, losing GSP, A. Silva and Cain hasn't helped, and I think the quality of the cards is fine for the most part. The promotion of the fights needs to change a bit, though. I think the Countdown shows were awesome in 2006-07 when a lot of casual fans were learning who the fighters were. Sure, some since then have been great, but for the most part, it is predictable storytelling.

Rousey has been a breath of fresh air, not only because she is female but that she has a good backstory and will say whatever is on her mind.

I would like more fighters to take some chances with post-fight interviews. Koscheck was great at this because he would do and say things to get the crowd to boo him more. Drives me nuts when guys say 'I will fight whoever Dana and the UFC tell me to fight'. So boring! Call someone out; say why you want to fight the guy you are calling out, do something to make yourself stand out from the growing crowd of fighters.

[Sandman42]

Re: UFC 170: Rousey v. Mcmann/Evans vs.Cormier - February 22

Since the card is coming up I thought I'd post here, but is anyone else worried about the state of the UFC? I'm taking everything into account and everything that's led up to this card. From small to big. I just get this feeling like the UFC isn't heading in a great direction.

I was watching the Countdown show for the card and even something was off about it. Just seemed so drab and the analysts on there made me so irritated. The most cookie cutter analysis they could find.

Overall it's like I'm not excited about the product right now.

From injuries, to production, to Dana, to the watered down cards... I'm getting worried. I am thinking the UFC is trying to evolve too fast for its own good. Like they bit off more than they could chew and the fact that they are trying to market to a broader audience I feel like is alienating its current fans. I can't even put my finger on any specific instance but overall, I haven't really been too hyped for these cards. It sucks but I can now freely admit to myself that I do not get that same feeling I used to with the UFC.

I think there is legit reason to be worried too is what makes me sick.

Edit: I forgot to add the biggest reason for me being worried: fighters just fighting not to lose. Champs are not exempt from this either. I think the rules need to be looked at to get more action.

I've been feeling the same way. I used to watch everything the UFC put out, but the past six months or so I've been skipping entire cards and haven't bothered to DVR or find them online. I still try to catch the cards and fights that look exciting to me, and I watch most of the PPV main cards. It's really the prelims and some of the FS1/Fight Pass cards that I pass on or watch a few fights. This past weekend I only bothered to watch the Machida fight.

It comes with the territory with the FOX expansion. More cards than ever before which means the big fights are more spread apart which leads to these undercards filled with mediocre debuting guys or TUF retreads which doesn't really appeal to me.