The OS WWE 'Dirt' Thread

[georgiafan]

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If you want a reason why Rock will/should win the title just look at the ratings for this weeks raw

[Chrisksaint]

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Yeah there is no doubt in my mind that The Rock is winning the title sometime soon, he's a ratings machine while ratings have been declining lately under Punks recent title reign.

[Redacted01]

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So what happens to ratings when Rock drops the belt and disappears again? I guarantee Rock is in the answer, as in drops like one.

[DonkeyJote]

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Dolph can't cash in on him.

And I said beyond Wrestlemania. To me, it is a complete waste if he shows up for 2-3 months and then drops the belt and we don't seem him for another year. Does absolutely nothing at all except damage the good thing Punk has going. I don't mind the Rock being involved, but that is a disgrace to be handed a title shot in July after not showing up since Wrestlemania, win the belt without ever becoming #1 contender, and then dropping it to Cena probably. And then we'll have to sit through 450+ days of Cena just so McMahon's Golden Boy can have the longest modern reign.

Dolph can't cash in on him.

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Why can't Dolph cash in on him? Because it's just for the WHC? There were all kinds of reports a few months ago saying they were considering having him cash in on the WWE title anyway. It's the WWE's rules - they can change them whenever they want. If they want Dolph to cash in on the WWE Title, he can.

I disagree whole heartedly about it being a waste. First of all, guys are "given" title shots all the time. Hell, Ryback was "given" his title shots - he never became the #1 contender by beating anyone. How does it damage what Punk has going? He is the top heel in the business now. That's fantastic, and it isn't going away anytime soon, whether he faces the Rock, Cena, Taker, etc. at Mania. The point of having a super over heel hold the title for this long is to eventually have a white knight come in and take it from him. You build that bad guys up, so that when the good guy beats him, it's that much more important. CM Punk is the internet darling I know - he's phenomenal at what he does, and is probably the very best in the world - but he's the bad guy. And it's his job to lose to the good guy.

And who else is that going to be? It can't be Cena. He's already retained his title against him 3 times. It can't be Ryback, for the same reason. It's not going to be the Undertaker - he's more part time than The Rock is. So unless you want to keep Orton face and build him up, or you believe Sheamus is the guy who should do it, or Triple H (no and no), who elese but The Rock.

And whether it's Cena or somebody else, beating The Rock, the biggest star in the company, like it or not, for the title is huge. I don't see Cena holding it for 450 days either way. But Punk is running out of guys to face. The emergence of Ryback was huge, as it bought them 3 months without having to find someone new. But time is about up.

[ChaseB]

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If you want a reason why Rock will/should win the title just look at the ratings for this weeks raw

Just being on the show should be good enough then, doesn't need the belt.

[ProfessaPackMan]

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Yeah there is no doubt in my mind that The Rock is winning the title sometime soon, he's a ratings machine while ratings have been declining lately under Punks recent title reign.

Ratings for WWE have been getting worse in the last year?

[Chrisksaint]

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Ratings for WWE have been getting worse in the last year?

The key word being lately there.

[ProfessaPackMan]

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Well, you said "recent title reign" but he's been Champion for over a year and he hasn't lost the belt either so that comment threw me off.

And are their ratings declining because of him being champ or because of other things they(WWE)can't necessarily control such as the holidays?

[goh]

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This is not true at all.

Sadly, he'll be worthless with out the mask, as speculated.

I was trying to get Steen signed too. Now you've gone and ruined it.

There's a list of his scheduled appearances between now and Mania. He's making a ton of appearances between now and Mania. Why would him being champ be a bad thing? I don't think anyone expects a long run from him. He wins it (either at RR or EC) and then drops it at Mania, in all likelihood. The only thing they can't, can't, can't let happen is him relinquishing the title. Someone has to beat him for it. Like it or not, though, whether he's part time or not, he's by far the biggest star in the company. Letting him hold the title isn't a bad thing, and someone beating him for the title would be a big deal.

Because it does nothing good for anyone.
It buries the entire current roster. Ryback,The Miz,Daniel Bryan,Chris Jericho,Dolph Ziggler...everyone CM Punk has beaten in the 418 days or whatever it is now. You have a guy that shows up for a month and wins? That's wrestled 9 times in 10 years when there's guys that might wrestle 9 times in a week and can't even get on Raw or SD? Instead of having a guy that hasn't even been there end that long reign...which goes for 'Taker and Lesnar too...they could build a new main eventer on it. It's a slap in the face to guys busting their asses and not even getting on TV. This is why they can't get anyone over. What does winning the title do for The Rock,Brock or Undertaker? Not a damn thing. Unless Rocky is going to hand it over to cousin Roman the next night.

You want to end the longest run in 25 years for a guy to have it for a month then lose it to John ****ing Cena who already won it 10 times and failed to beat Punk numerous times? All that does is **** all over everything and get Cena booed even more than he already is. Does that put anyone over? No. They don't even need to build anyone up to do it. Miz can do it. It'd make him credible again. Worse yet Rock was GIVEN this shot. GIVEN. Not earned in any way what-so-ever. He didn't beat Ryback. He didn't beat Bryan. He didn't beat Ziggler. He didn't beat The Shield. He didn't beat Tyson Kidd. He didn't even beat Zack Ryder or Yoshi Tatsu. He hasn't been there to perform for us so why should he be rewarded? It increases ratings title or not. Shield should've been up his *** the second he showed up because this is the biggest injustice in years. They could've taken him out,put him in no shape to have his match and they would've gotten over further. All the things they could advance with this,all the people they could put over and they want to go backwards. The Rock doesn't even deserve the match let alone the title. So winning it?

[55]

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Why can't Dolph cash in on him? Because it's just for the WHC? There were all kinds of reports a few months ago saying they were considering having him cash in on the WWE title anyway. It's the WWE's rules - they can change them whenever they want. If they want Dolph to cash in on the WWE Title, he can.

Nope, it doesn't work that way at all. The blue briefcase is strictly for a World Heavyweight Championship match only. They are not going to change that at this stage. Only the black briefcase can be cashed in for any title and they don't even have that one anymore since MitB is its own PPV now and not at WrestleMania anymore.

[bigbob]

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Nope, it doesn't work that way at all. The blue briefcase is strictly for a World Heavyweight Championship match only. They are not going to change that at this stage. Only the black briefcase can be cashed in for any title and they don't even have that one anymore since MitB is its own PPV now and not at WrestleMania anymore.

It actually was a rumor that was going around that they were going to have him cash it in on the WWE Champion, so I can back him up on that "rumor".

But it would have been stupid for them to do it.

[woody2goody]

It's true, why have virtually the entire roster try to beat Punk and fail and have The Rock win in his 3rd wrestling appearance in 18 months.

However, look at it this way. Punk could have lost the title several times. He nearly lost to Bryan twice, he should have lost to Ryback 3 times, he would have lost to Cena at Raw 1000 if it wasn't for the Big Show.

Jericho almost beat him at Mania, Cena almost beat him originally for the title.

This reign has been booked well, and even though I don't think Rock deserves the title, Punk hasn't steamrollered all his challengers. If he had, then Rock beating him would be stupid, but as it stands it's believable under the right circumstances.

Something else in this thread shocked me - they're thinking of changing Richie Steamboat's name??? If he is not called Steamboat then it takes away interest for people who haven't seen him before.

Cody and Ted were successful because of their names. Well, it helped them at least in addition to their talent. The young guys need their little push, and having a famous name behind them helps them. Changing the name doesn't, ask Michael McGillicutty (who incidentally is still awesome).

[woody2goody]

It actually was a rumor that was going around that they were going to have him cash it in on the WWE Champion, so I can back him up on that "rumor".

But it would have been stupid for them to do it.

Well I suppose all it would take would be a ruling from a GM. If they can make him defend it against Cena, a Raw superstar, then who's to say they can't change the stipulation attached to the case? It could be fun...

[Red Kafe]

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They really need to bring the light heavyweight title back , the roster is full of athletic high flying wrestlers . Rey, Cara , Kidd, Evan , Justin, Yoshi and hell even Bryan.

[Red Kafe]

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Im going thru the WWE website where has Mason Ryan been?