WrestleMania 29 - (4/7/13)

[GnarlyKing]

Re: WrestleMania 29 - (4/7/13)

I think if it hadn't been for the Goldberg chants there's a good chance that Ryback still wouldn't have said much other than "Feed me more!".

I think there were a few token changes to keep Punk happy at first and then Vince gave him a long title run to keep him happy hoping he wouldn't notice while things slowly shifted back. At least it seems that way at times.

[TheMatrix31]

Re: WrestleMania 29 - (4/7/13)

The fabric of society nowadays is such that even if Cena's character is changed, the people will still bitch about it, if not immediately then down the line. Cena changing won't really change things. Say Cena goes under a character change, heel/face change, new music, etc.....does that REALLY go to the ROOT of what's wrong with the company? No.

I mean really, are people who want Cena to change REALLY going to say "wow, they actually changed something about Cena, this is awesome now and I'm going to watch every week and it's gonna be the same as old times and yay!"?! Come on, now.

And this is coming from someone who doesn't care for John Cena's on-screen character at ALL.

Be real, people.

[GnarlyKing]

Re: WrestleMania 29 - (4/7/13)

I agree about Cena. He really isn't the problem. I could live without corny Cena, but I've never been able to understand the widespread hatred of the guy. I think a lot of the people wanting a Cena heel turn are just wanting to recapture the feeling of Hogan's but in reality it would probably go over more like Austin's. I do think over-catering to the kids and the general lack of direction and inability to follow through on anything is the actual problem.

[Chrisksaint]

Re: WrestleMania 29 - (4/7/13)

It's not going to happen, but they could go the route of how Cena has now done everything their is to do in the business as he now has beaten "The Great One" but that The People still don't care. So then he goes on a heelish streak of just not giving a ****.

Like I said it won't happen and it sounded better in my head.

[Bellsprout]

Re: WrestleMania 29 - (4/7/13)

I mean really, are people who want Cena to change REALLY going to say "wow, they actually changed something about Cena, this is awesome now and I'm going to watch every week and it's gonna be the same as old times and yay!"?! Come on, now.

I don't know, people loved a stale-as-**** Hogan joining the NWO until WCW ran that angle into the ground.

[TheMatrix31]

Re: WrestleMania 29 - (4/7/13)

Yeah but that was disgustingly fresh. Nobody even CONSIDERED it happening.

Wouldn't have the same impact now.

[Grumpykore]

Overall good ppv..I'm glad cena won the belt..my kids were pretty excited about that..raw tonight should go off big time..

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[TheShizNo1]

I don't think Cena changing is specifically the problem. I just think that character shows a lot that's wrong w/ wrestling today. Stale, same ole same ole, corny, makes no sense, etc.

I watch hoping it will change. But there hasn't been one solid consistent thing to say it will sadly.

I'm not going to stop watching yet. But what does it say for you as a company that on your biggest stage, you pretty much do absolutely nothing?

[Bellsprout]

Re: WrestleMania 29 - (4/7/13)

I watch hoping it will change. But there hasn't been one solid consistent thing to say it will sadly.

I remember thinking things were different and fresh during the Summer of Punk, then Kevin Nash showed up and put a stop to all that.

That was the closest we've gotten to a real sea change, I think.

[kingkilla56]

Re: WrestleMania 29 - (4/7/13)

I don't think Cena changing is specifically the problem. I just think that character shows a lot that's wrong w/ wrestling today. Stale, same ole same ole, corny, makes no sense, etc.

I watch hoping it will change. But there hasn't been one solid consistent thing to say it will sadly.

I'm not going to stop watching yet. But what does it say for you as a company that on your biggest stage, you pretty much do absolutely nothing?

Its really amazing how this year's mania had absolutely nothing stunning happen. No swerve, no incredible title change, no big statement wins, just nothing. They really sold out for Rock Cena and prayed it would be Rock Hogan, but everybody saw that coming once Rock was given a title shot months ago.

I dont know if Cena heel is necessary, but he needs to drop this goody two shoes choir boy thing. Even when they dare mix it up with him, the Kane embrace the hate, or even Rock ruining my year, it always goes back to square one in the end with him.

[TheMatrix31]

Re: WrestleMania 29 - (4/7/13)

I still can't believe they brought Kevin ****ing Nash back. Stopped the momentum DEAD.

Un-be-lievable.

[ProfessaPackMan]

Re: WrestleMania 29 - (4/7/13)

The fabric of society nowadays is such that even if Cena's character is changed, the people will still bitch about it, if not immediately then down the line. Cena changing won't really change things. Say Cena goes under a character change, heel/face change, new music, etc.....does that REALLY go to the ROOT of what's wrong with the company? No.

I mean really, are people who want Cena to change REALLY going to say "wow, they actually changed something about Cena, this is awesome now and I'm going to watch every week and it's gonna be the same as old times and yay!"?! Come on, now.

And this is coming from someone who doesn't care for John Cena's on-screen character at ALL.

Be real, people.

Thank. You. Sir.

[SmashMan]

Re: WrestleMania 29 - (4/7/13)

But what does it say for you as a company that on your biggest stage, you pretty much do absolutely nothing?

This pretty much sums it up for me. While predictable, I thought the matches themselves were enjoyable. ...there was just no story line progression anywhere, which is annoying.

We were told for weeks that the three-man 'face' team probably couldn't trust each other. So when it turns out that they can't, we're supposed to be surprised?

I honestly can't believe Team Hell No is still a thing, let alone tag team champions. Totally figured they'd break up and feud leading to Mania.

Not going to hate on Punk/Taker. No doubt Undertaker was going to win, but they've been telling a story with the urn, so was a nice wrap-up to have Undertaker win and reclaim it.

...I still have no idea why John Laurinaitis and Cena's "I'll do anything!" promo were part of this storyline. Rule of story - don't introduce elements that don't pay off in some way.
I did like the callback spot of Cena's People Elbow, and Rock's subsequent Five Knuckle Shuffle. Finisher-Mania at the end was overkill.

That being said, I did enjoy the show. Maybe not $70 worth, but it's the only PPV I buy during the year so I guess it averages out to $6 for this month.

[DJ]

Re: WrestleMania 29 - (4/7/13)

I remember thinking things were different and fresh during the Summer of Punk, then Kevin Nash showed up and put a stop to all that.

That was the closest we've gotten to a real sea change, I think.

Ah, the old "Stick the winner" text message heard 'round the world. Man that was such terrible booking. Punk was on fire and things just spiraled south with the booking of that Triple H-Punk feud.

[DJ]

Re: WrestleMania 29 - (4/7/13)

The fabric of society nowadays is such that even if Cena's character is changed, the people will still bitch about it, if not immediately then down the line. Cena changing won't really change things. Say Cena goes under a character change, heel/face change, new music, etc.....does that REALLY go to the ROOT of what's wrong with the company? No.

I mean really, are people who want Cena to change REALLY going to say "wow, they actually changed something about Cena, this is awesome now and I'm going to watch every week and it's gonna be the same as old times and yay!"?! Come on, now.

And this is coming from someone who doesn't care for John Cena's on-screen character at ALL.

Be real, people.

I'm with you 100%, which is why I brought up C.M. Punk and has staying in WWE to try and change the culture. That, more than any heel/face turn, needs to happen within all of WWE or else we will be here a year from now talking about the same things.

The issues that plague WWE are much larger than if John Cena should turn heel or not. The booking is piss poor, there's no way to sugarcoat it. WWE has proven they can create fresh, exciting storylines/angles (Nexus, Punk, Shield) but they clearly have no idea how to long-term book anything and that is why things with promise fall apart 1-2 months down the road.