The "There's No Raw Thread Yet" Raw Thread - 6/30/2014

[areobee401]

Re: The "There's No Raw Thread Yet" Raw Thread - 6/30/2014

Wednesday 4pm and you guys are still arguing about Paige.

Let's talk about someone who is really being screwed by WWE. Zack Ryder. Sells a ****load of merchandise, has a heavy social media presence, receives a fan reaction anytime he hits the stage, yet has no merchandise for sale on WWE.com.

An NXT rookie is given the title when she debuts over all the other Divas on the current roster, and here you all are making excuses for her. She dropped the title to the top Diva. Who cares? She dropped the ball with her title run. Her job is to get over regardless of what is put in front of her (see Zack Ryder).

You guys act like she was handed walking papers. She's gong to play a heel now. A roll in which she should thrive in. I'd love to see all the excuse making if she flops again.

Raw thread always goes down the tube following Raw anyway, but this is something else.

[SmashMan]

Re: The "There's No Raw Thread Yet" Raw Thread - 6/30/2014

Let's talk about someone who is really being screwed by WWE. Zack Ryder. Sells a ****load of merchandise, has a heavy social media presence, receives a fan reaction anytime he hits the stage, yet has no merchandise for sale on WWE.com.

• Is a bad actor, even for wrestling
• Complains about his job on a public forum

Pretty easy to see why he doesn't get pushed.

[areobee401]

Re: The "There's No Raw Thread Yet" Raw Thread - 6/30/2014

He brings revenue to WWE is the point. Kids are not bugging mom and dad to order them a t-shirt with that pasty chick on it. He is popular amongst fans, she is not. So why are we wasting 3 days to whine about her booking and all that again? No one off the net cares about this chick.

It's not that hard to understand why WWE made a change. Stop acting like she is owed a thing.

[StevenSD]

Re: The "There's No Raw Thread Yet" Raw Thread - 6/30/2014

It's not that hard to understand why WWE made a change. Stop acting like she is owed a thing.

Who said anything about this being a change and not a program?

What's so wrong with us still talking about Women's wrestling two days after Raw? Hell I'd say that's a hell of an improvement.

[Trevelyan]

Re: The "There's No Raw Thread Yet" Raw Thread - 6/30/2014

Wednesday 4pm and you guys are still arguing about Paige.

Let's talk about someone who is really being screwed by WWE. Zack Ryder. Sells a ****load of merchandise, has a heavy social media presence, receives a fan reaction anytime he hits the stage, yet has no merchandise for sale on WWE.com.

An NXT rookie is given the title when she debuts over all the other Divas on the current roster, and here you all are making excuses for her. She dropped the title to the top Diva. Who cares? She dropped the ball with her title run. Her job is to get over regardless of what is put in front of her (see Zack Ryder).

You guys act like she was handed walking papers. She's gong to play a heel now. A roll in which she should thrive in. I'd love to see all the excuse making if she flops again.

Raw thread always goes down the tube following Raw anyway, but this is something else.

Zack Ryder proved that if Vince doesn't want to push you, you're screwed. It doesn't matter that he got over on the internet. If they want to make you look like a loser, you're a loser.

No one really cares that Paige dropped the belt. Its the fact that the segment sucked and shes been booked like crap since day one.

Everyone keeps ignoring the points that are being made and just repeating the same thing: "who cares about the divas?" If you don't care, don't read the posts.

For me, its less about the divas and more about terrible booking. I think some people are so used to seeing crap on TV they forgot what good booking looks like.

[rangerrick012]

Re: The "There's No Raw Thread Yet" Raw Thread - 6/30/2014

Zach Ryder's still a thing? Like really?

[SmashMan]

Re: The "There's No Raw Thread Yet" Raw Thread - 6/30/2014

Zach Ryder's still a thing? Like really?

Hey, he's serious now.

[ProfessaPackMan]

Re: The "There's No Raw Thread Yet" Raw Thread - 6/30/2014

I guess the honeymoon period is over because in the weeks following WM, most folks here were satisfied with the "direction" booking/creative was headed. I personally was still skeptical/had my doubts they would sustain it but I figured it would continue to make progress with some small bumps in the road along the way.

[reyes the roof]

Re: The "There's No Raw Thread Yet" Raw Thread - 6/30/2014

I guess the honeymoon period is over because in the weeks following WM, most folks here were satisfied with the "direction" booking/creative was headed. I personally was still skeptical/had my doubts they would sustain it but I figured it would continue to make progress with some small bumps in the road along the way.

I'm pretty happy. I love what they're doing with Rollins and Ambrose, Jericho and Bray should be entertaining, I'm not crazy about Cena as champ but they're in a tough spot with Bryan being out. I know most people seem to like Reigns the least out of everyone from The Shield, but the way Raw ended it looks like he will be facing HHH down the line which I'm looking forward to. My biggest complaint is they have completely crushed Cesaro's momentum

[JazzMan]

Re: The "There's No Raw Thread Yet" Raw Thread - 6/30/2014

Yeah, they've handled the Shield breakup very well. Cesaro's post WM run has been disappointing, but surely they'll be able to fix that. They've built Rusev up really well and hopefully we'll get an awesome feud from him and Swagger. Orton has been fantastic as of late, and Cena is Cena.

D-Bry's injury really ****ed things up, and having to rely on Kane in the main event picture hasn't helped, but at least Big Show is nowhere near the WWEWHC.

I'm still optimistic about the direction. Wait until Bryan gets back and some of the youth build themselves up as contenders, like Rollins, Reigns, Bray, Ambrose, Cesaro, and Barrett.

[kingkilla56]

Re: The "There's No Raw Thread Yet" Raw Thread - 6/30/2014

Idk how much DB's injury messed things up only because he was feuding so much with The Demon Kane!

WWE always has a trump card to fix all their problems, and his name is The Ryback.

[King_B_Mack]

Re: The "There's No Raw Thread Yet" Raw Thread - 6/30/2014

The booking situation is the same as it's been for a while. There are some things around the top part of the card they're doing well with and their complete morons with everything else.

[IndianBird]

Re: The "There's No Raw Thread Yet" Raw Thread - 6/30/2014

Paige has done more for my interest in women's wrestling than probably any other women's wrestler to com around in a long, long time.

Before Paige, I spent 10 years fast-forwarding probably every women's match I saw except for the one with Maria Menounos at Wrestlemania.

I'd say that's a good bit of progress there, even if the feuds haven't been booked really nicely. Her work on NXT was cool and it made me interested more but in the end it's still one big who cares.

You were skipping Beth Phoenix matches? She was a beast.

[Trevelyan]

Re: The "There's No Raw Thread Yet" Raw Thread - 6/30/2014

The former shield members are all being booked extremely well. I'm guessing HHH is completely focused on those guys. When you start looking at how the rest of the roster is used...its shaky at best, and often terrible.

[woody2goody]

Re: The "There's No Raw Thread Yet" Raw Thread - 6/30/2014

This is the best gimmick idea I've heard here since late last year's "homeless Big Show" idea.

Not as good as 'Korporate Kane who is hilariously bad at his job and accidentally sets everything on fire' No way.