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  • waytofailself
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    • Feb 2011
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    #526
    Re: The Accidental Career of Guy West (CH2k8)

    Originally posted by Deuce2223
    They sorta owned you in the 1st half.
    Ha, sorta doesn't begin to describe it. It was one of those games that never felt close because they couldn't miss and my players couldn't get in position on D.

    In other words, it harkened back to non-conference form. It's the kind of stuff my team had started to improve upon in Big XII play.
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    • superjames1992
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      Re: The Accidental Career of Guy West (CH2k8)

      Defense was optional in that first half.
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      • waytofailself
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        Re: The Accidental Career of Guy West (CH2k8)

        Holiday weekend = finally some breathing room. Hopefully I can bring you both the end of this season soon, as well as a sign of things to come.
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        • waytofailself
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          End of Regular Season Standings

          Well, the nightmare is over for a number of programs in the Big XII. After preseason speculation of the Big XII sending as many as 6 or 7 teams to the big dance, many teams ended the season leaving plenty of wins on the table. Perennial powerhouses Texas and Oklahoma have to be disappointed with records that can only be salvaged by winning the Conference Tournament. Meanwhile, Missouri came out entirely flat in Big XII play, and the Tigers' second half of the season can only be described in one way: a disaster.

          But all is not bleak for what has turned into a surprisingly top-heavy conference. Oklahoma State and Kansas take their rightful places at the the top of the standings, while Kansas State feasted on the weak and scored a few upsets en route to a winning record in Big XII play. Iowa State was another surprise, showing their early season success was no fluke.

          It looks like the Big XII will only be sending four teams to the NCAA Tournament unless someone is able to break through from the middle of the conference. But the Tournament is not always about quantity -- as each of Oklahoma State, Kansas, Baylor, and Iowa State are capable of making deep runs.

          Still, first thing is first. It's time to sort out who takes home the Big XII crown.

          Big XII Final Regular Season Standings Conference Standings - Updated: Mar 12, 2017
          TEAMRECPCTCONFGB
          #11 Oklahoma State25-6.80612-4-
          #18 Kansas22-8.73310-62
          #22 Iowa State21-8.72410-62
          Baylor21-9.70010-62
          Kansas State12-16.4299-73
          Oklahoma17-13.5678-84
          Texas16-13.5528-84
          Texas Tech15-11.5777-95
          Colorado15-13.5367-95
          Nebraska18-11.6217-95
          Texas A&M13-16.4485-117
          Missouri11-18.3793-139
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          • waytofailself
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            Big 12 Tournament First Round

            The Kansas State Wildcats got no favors entering the Big 12 Tournament. Despite finishing with the 5th best record in the conference, they still managed to draw by far the most talented team to not earn a bye. The Tigers have been down for the entire 2017 calendar year -- and they are still stinging from their only meeting with the Wildcats this season.

            Some would say that 29 point home drubbing by Kansas State was the point the bottom fell out of the season for the Tigers. There's no time like March for revenge.


            L.F. Reaser injured his knee on this early game drive to the basket.

            And early in the game, things quickly turned sour for the Wildcats. L.F. Reaser drove the ball across court to try and give Kansas State energy early, only to injure his knee while getting fouled. He was on the ground awhile before needing assistance getting up, and Missouri rattled off 6 straight points with the Wildcats looking confused on offense. Fortunately for Coach West and company, their Senior stabilizer had only bruised his knee, and he was able to return to action and stuff the stat sheet as Kansas State struck back and ended the half with a 45-41 lead.


            Darwin Peterson gets rejected by Andrew Starkey in the second half

            Although the first half could not be characterized as a track meet, compared to the second half it looked like a drag race or sprint. Much like the meeting between the Tigers and Wildcats earlier in the season, both coaches made significant adjustments at the half. Defense was the dominant theme in the second half.

            While Missouri's front court began to intimidate Kansas State's interior attack, it was the Wildcats' much maligned perimeter defense that took control of the game. The Tigers went an abominable 1-19 from beyond the arc in the second period, thanks in large part to a lack of open spaces on the floor and a hand always being in a player's face. No player was more frustrated than Missouri point guard Hubert Hipsher, who could only muster 5 points in the second half and only after the game had slipped away.

            In the end, it was a game that defied preseason expectations but taught us nothing new from what we learned during conference play. Missouri, who was a dark horse to win the Big 12, came out flat and could not compete. Meanwhile, Kansas State, who came into the season looking every part the cellar dweller, outworked their opponent and notched another victory for Coach West. Tonight's game was much closer than Kansas State's earlier 29 blow-out, but the Wildcats' 72-60 victory allows them to advance to the Quarterfinals for a date with the Baylor Bears.

            Missouri Tigers at Kansas State Wildcats
            Mar 13, 20171ST2NDSCORE
            Missouri (11-18)411960
            Kansas State (12-16)452772
            Missouri Tigers
            STARTERSMINFGM-A3PM-AFTM-AREBASTSTLBLKTOPTS
            H. Hipsher258-122-33-42610021
            J. Werch172-120-61-2200005
            F. Sorrentine235-170-70-02122010
            J. Rasmussen241-70-20-0513102
            A. Starkey233-60-12-21006308
            BENCHMINFGM-A3PM-AFTM-AREBASTSTLBLKTOPTS
            E. Sullivan122-91-40-0020005
            S. Giddens103-61-40-0100017
            J. Ager51-30-10-0100002
            A. Maldonado110-10-00-0400000
            L. Pait-- DID NOT PLAY --
            E. Rush-- DID NOT PLAY --
            H. Ndoye-- DID NOT PLAY --
            TEAM TOTALS25-734-286-82710126160
            Kansas State Wildcats
            STARTERSMINFGM-A3PM-AFTM-AREBASTSTLBLKTOPTS
            L. Reaser235-92-50-06700212
            K. Coulibaly204-81-40-0320039
            D. Guinn214-71-33-38021112
            R. Guzman224-100-03-46201411
            D. Peterson2310-170-01-113100121
            BENCHMINFGM-A3PM-AFTM-AREBASTSTLBLKTOPTS
            M. Mathis132-50-01-2310015
            O. Macura130-50-40-0220000
            J. Guzman40-10-10-0130000
            J. Brinkley91-10-00-0400022
            C. Geiger10-00-00-0000000
            TEAM TOTALS30-634-178-104618221472
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            • waytofailself
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              2017 Tournament First Round


              Outside of the Aggies pulling away from the Sooners in the closing minutes, there was little drama to be found in the opening round. Texas Tech trounced Nebraska twice this season, so it is no surprise they would go on to win again by double digits. Meanwhile, Texas once again performed when it's do or die time, and Kansas State showed its early season victory over Missouri was no fluke.

              #8 Nebraska 69 #9 Texas Tech 79

              #5 Kansas State 72
              #12 Missouri 60


              #6 Oklahoma 78 #11 Texas A&M 82

              #7 Texas 96 #10 Colorado 60
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              • waytofailself
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                Big 12 Tournament Quarterfinals

                It's fair to say there was a chip on Baylor's shoulder entering this game. The Bears were #19 in the nation when they hosted the Wildcats earlier this season, and a loss to Kansas State, no matter how close, was enough to knock Baylor out of the Top 25 rankings. It was a pedestal they would not return to for the remainder of the season.

                So no, the Bears were not sleeping on the Kansas State Wildcats, especially in single-elimination play. However, there are pitfalls to coming out too aggressively.


                Ed Note: This is the only charging call I have ever seen against the CPU on MOP

                The Bears got in a hole early because they fought too hard. Kansas State was able to stay disciplined, and as a result were able to push the early advantage. Baylor's star center, Kenneth Eldridge, was left to stew on the bench after picking up two fouls in the opening minutes. Meanwhile, Kansas State was hitting shots from beyond the arc and having their way with the Bears in the post.

                But this was never a rout. The Wildcats managed to get ahead by as much as 10 in the opening half, but Baylor was too talented to just let the Wildcats walk out with a victory. Steven Stilles had his way with the Kansas State defense, evicerating the much maligned unit for 8 assists. However, it would take until the second half for Stilles to find his shooting touch to rack up 24 points. And when the threes started falling, Kansas State went cold.

                Of course, Stilles had help. Kansas State was powerless in the paint with a clearly motivated Eldridge back on the floor for the Bears. Whereas Darwin Peterson was able to drive his way to 22 points in the first half, he entirely lost his way in the second. Eldridge chalked up all 7 of his blocks in the second half, and most of them against Peterson.

                As for the rest of the Wildcats? They went far too cold at the beginning of the second half, and Baylor burst out to their first significant lead of the game. It would balloon to as high as 19 points before Kansas State would find traction.


                A great effort play by Coulibaly in the second half to cut Baylor's lead


                But the deficit was just too much. With poor shooting nights beyond the arc and at the free throw line, Kansas State could not overcome its lack of execution on defense. Coach West seemed powerless to slow down the Bears in the second half -- there was either just too much of a power divide, or Kansas State was not mentally tough enough for this stage. Chances are its a little bit of both.

                As a result, the Bears advance to the Big 12 Semifinals with a convincing 76-66 victory to take on the Oklahoma State vs Texas Tech winner.

                Kansas State Wildcats vs Baylor Bears
                Mar 14, 20171ST2NDSCORE
                Baylor (21-9)354176
                Kansas State (13-16)363066
                Kansas State Wildcats
                STARTERSMINFGM-A3PM-AFTM-AREBASTSTLBLKTOPTS
                L. Reaser264-132-90-03911110
                K. Coulibaly246-111-30-03210013
                D. Guinn231-61-40-0411123
                R. Guzman193-70-01-2500127
                D. Peterson2512-230-03-613603027
                BENCHMINFGM-A3PM-AFTM-AREBASTSTLBLKTOPTS
                M. Mathis122-70-00-0510004
                J. Guzman50-10-10-0120010
                O. Macura91-30-20-0111012
                J. Brinkley60-10-00-2010000
                C. Geiger10-00-00-0000000
                TEAM TOTALS29-724-194-10352346776
                Baylor Bears
                STARTERSMINFGM-A3PM-AFTM-AREBASTSTLBLKTOPTS
                S. Stilles278-164-104-45810124
                C. Franklin246-141-44-42500117
                F. Blair264-130-52-210300110
                F. Cortez270-40-03-4601203
                K. Eldridge132-50-00-0900704
                BENCHMINFGM-A3PM-AFTM-AREBASTSTLBLKTOPTS
                K. Hatten106-80-10-00220012
                M. Lyons30-20-10-0000000
                D. Collier10-10-00-0100000
                H. Havens142-80-30-0511014
                S. Boggan31-20-10-0000012
                L. Rose10-00-00-0100000
                S. Payton10-00-00-0000000
                TEAM TOTALS29-735-2513-14391959566

                And so ends the 2016-2017 season for Coach West and the Kansas State Wildcats. With numerous key contributors graduating from the squad, who knows what will be in store for the 2017-2018 season, or if Coach West will survive the chopping block.
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                • superjames1992
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                  #533
                  Re: The Accidental Career of Guy West (CH2k8)

                  You all had a pretty good conference season. Wish I could say the same about the non-conference portion! The Big 12 looked awful outside of the top four, though.

                  Good luck next year!
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                  • waytofailself
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                    2017 Tournament Summary

                    It did not take too long for the top teams in the conference to separate themselves. It was a Tournament for top seeds, as everyone got the match-up they wanted to see in the Finals: Oklahoma State & Kansas.

                    Quarterfinals

                    #1 Oklahoma State 90 #9 Texas Tech 78

                    #5 Kansas State 66 #4 Baylor 76
                    #11 Texas A&M 74 #3 Iowa State 79
                    #7 Texas 86 #2 Kansas 106

                    Semifinals


                    #1 Oklahoma State 96 #4 Baylor 81

                    #3 Iowa State 73 #2 Kansas 86

                    Finals

                    #1 Oklahoma State 85 #2 Kansas 98
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                    • waytofailself
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                      Re: The Accidental Career of Guy West (CH2k8)

                      Originally posted by superjames1992
                      You all had a pretty good conference season. Wish I could say the same about the non-conference portion! The Big 12 looked awful outside of the top four, though.

                      Good luck next year!
                      Thanks. It was a surprisingly good conference season -- but I think part of it has to do with most of my non-conference opponents having better overall ratings than my conference opponents. Plus I finally got comfortable with Reaser and Coulibaly. Of course, they won't be back next year. And 5'9" PG Guzman and barely made the cut at the beginning of the season SG Brinkley are not nearly as good. Someone is going to have to carry the torch, and he might not be on KSU yet.
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                      • waytofailself
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                        2017 NCAA Tournament Results

                        With the brackets being headlined by #1 Seeds Alabama, Georgia Tech, UCLA, and NC State, it was a tournament ruled, for the most part, by the headliners. No team had an easy road to the Championship, by in the end it would be a pair of foes who know each other very well fighting it out for the title.

                        First Round

                        This was a good year to pick chalk in the opening round, as there was a significant lack of true march upsets. Teams like Ohio State could have been rated higher, while Utah had been ravaged by injuries. But to give credit where credit is due, but SMU and Murray State delighted the crowds with great wins over South Carolina and Wisconsin. So at least there was still some madness to be had.

                        East
                        #1 Alabama 71
                        #16 Alabama A&M 51
                        #8 Baylor 76 #9 San Diego State 52
                        #5 Georgetown 96 #12 William & Mary 60
                        #4 Iowa 95 #13 Northern Iowa 59
                        #6 UNLV 68 #11 Indiana 87
                        #3 Drexel 87 #14 Stetson 57
                        #7 North Carolina 104 #10 Nevada 80
                        #2 Xavier 91 #15 IUPUI 45

                        West
                        #1 Georgia Tech 96
                        #16 Montana 63
                        #8 Cincinnati 61 #9 New Mexico 53
                        #5 Maryland 77 #12 Valparaiso 62
                        #4 Arizona State 83 #13 North Texas 56
                        #6 Pittsburgh 76 #11 Tulsa 62
                        #3 Duke 85 #14 Northwestern State 53
                        #7 Utah 60 #10 Duquesne 95
                        #2 Louisville 86 #15 Georgia Southern 61

                        South
                        #1 NC State 99
                        #16 Northern Illinois 37
                        #8 Washington State 84 #9 Florida State 55
                        #5 South Carolina 73 #12 SMU 74
                        #4 Clemson 91 #13 Holy Cross 74
                        #6 Arkansas 82 #11 Oregon 83
                        #3 Oklahoma State 93 #14 Harvard 66
                        #7 Iowa State 63 #10 Ohio State 65
                        #2 Fairfield 84 #15 Norfolk State 71

                        Midwest
                        #1 UCLA 91 #16 Boston University 47
                        #8 Marquette 72 #9 LSU 81
                        #5 Kansas 95 #12 Arizona 56
                        #4 Connecticut 106 #13 UC Riverside 55
                        #6 Saint Louis 65 #11 Florida 73
                        #3 Gonzaga 99 #14 Long Island 78
                        #7 Villanova 71 #10 Temple 51
                        #2 Wisconsin 70 #15 Murray State 88

                        Second Round

                        And then things got a little tricky. Alabama was the first #1 seed to be knocked off, this time by the Baylor Bears, who picked the right time to get hot. Fairfield scored a huge win for the program by reaching the Sweet Sixteen -- even as a #2 seed they it was still Ohio State who was favored to win.

                        East
                        #1 Alabama 73 #8 Baylor 91
                        #5 Georgetown 99 #4 Iowa 105
                        #11 Indiana 70 #3 Drexel 77
                        #7 North Carolina 69 #2 Xavier 73

                        West
                        #1 Georgia Tech 94
                        #8 Cincinnati 83
                        #5 Maryland 69 #4 Arizona State 96
                        #6 Pittsburgh 77 #3 Duke 90
                        #10 Duquesne 57 #2 Louisville 89

                        South
                        #1 NC State 88
                        #8 Washington State 70
                        #12 SMU 57 #4 Clemson 62
                        #11 Oregon 92 #3 Oklahoma State 90
                        #10 Ohio State 77 #2 Fairfield 84

                        Midwest

                        #1 UCLA 85 #9 LSU 78
                        #5 Kansas 89 #4 Connecticut 84
                        #11 Florida 58 #3 Gonzaga 83
                        #7 Villanova 82 #15 Murray State 77

                        Sweet Sixteen
                        And just as it looked like the doors were opening for other upsets after some close games in the first weeks, the top ranked teams began slamming the door shut. Georgia Tech's lopsided beat down of Arizona State stands out the most, but Fairfield and Gonzaga both showed they were no flukes either.

                        East

                        #8 Baylor 96 #4 Iowa 101
                        #3 Drexel 77 #2 Xavier 89

                        West
                        #1 Georgia Tech 86 #4 Arizona State 52
                        #3 Duke 70 #2 Louisville 89

                        South
                        #1 NC State 84 #4 Clemson 61
                        #11 Oregon 67 #2 Fairfield 82

                        Midwest
                        #1 UCLA 72 #5 Kansas 67
                        #3 Gonzaga 93 #7 Villanova 84

                        Elite Eight

                        Call it mid-week separation. Other than Louisville putting up a strong fight, Xavier, NC State, and Gonzaga each punched their ticket to the Final Four in blow-out fashion.

                        #4 Iowa 78 #2 Xavier 93
                        #1 Georgia Tech 83 #2 Louisville 81
                        #1 NC State 86 #2 Fairfield 66
                        #1 UCLA 64 #3 Gonzaga 79

                        Final Four

                        For years, people had been wondering what happened to the ACC. They are currently on one of the longer title droughts in conference history, and traditional powers like Duke and UNC have been unable to top college basketball like they used to. Well, that's changing this year.

                        #2 Xavier 78 #1 Georgia Tech 86
                        #1 NC State 83 #3 Gonzaga 80

                        Finals

                        And in one of the closer, more entertaining NCAA Finals in recent memory, NC State toppled Georgia Tech thanks in large part to Tournament MOP and Pre-Season All-American C Dedrick Ozier.

                        #1 Georgia Tech 93 #1 NC State 97


                        Wolf! Pack!

                        (wth video game Sydney Lowe)

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                        • superjames1992
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                          Sidney Lowe winning a national championship with NC State? I've seen it all now!

                          It's kind of refreshing to see a title match with two #1 seeds, as well. It seems that upsets are too common in this game and can result in some odd matches in the later rounds, at times. It always upsets me to see a #5 seed playing a #8 seed (or something similar) in the title game.
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                          • waytofailself
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                            Re: The Accidental Career of Guy West (CH2k8)

                            Originally posted by superjames1992
                            Sidney Lowe winning a national championship with NC State? I've seen it all now!

                            It's kind of refreshing to see a title match with two #1 seeds, as well. It seems that upsets are too common in this game and can result in some odd matches in the later rounds, at times. It always upsets me to see a #5 seed playing a #8 seed (or something similar) in the title game.
                            I'll second you on that one. I've had some bizzaro tournament runs (especially #11 Missouri State reaching the Final Four a few years back), but at least this is the second 1v1 championship game I've seen in this legacy. In fact, this year's tournament stands out in my legacy history as being one of the most top heavy (seed wise). Especially with a high seed non-power conference team like Gonzaga breaking through to the Final Four.

                            I'll say that with this caveat though: the NIT from this season was the complete reverse. You'll see in the next post what I mean, but the following teams lost in the NIT Regional Finals: Purdue, Illinois, Memphis, and Ole Miss. Needless to say the crazy sim AI is still alive and well.
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                            • waytofailself
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                              2017 End of Season Awards

                              National Champion: NC State
                              NIT Champion: Florida Atlantic (with a final four of FAU, UAB, Jacksonville, & Louisiana Tech)
                              NCAA Player of the Year: Duncan Houston (PF Temple)
                              NCAA Mid-Major Player of the Year: Irving Robins (PF Fairfield)
                              NCAA Coach of the Year: Sidney Lowe (NC State)
                              NCAA Defensive Player of the Year: Duncan Sow (C Drexel) 18.8 PPG 8.4 RPG 1.3 SPG 2.4 BPG
                              NCAA Big Man of the Year: Duncan Houston (PF Temple)
                              NCAA Freshman of the Year: Ulric DeJesus (PF Richmond)

                              It's really nice to see Duncan Sow come into his own outside of Femi Ramsey's shadow. Still, he went undrafted (82 OVR) but at least he wasn't just phenomenal on defense for me. However, one beef: what's with all big men sweeping the awards the past few years? What happened to the dominant little guys?

                              First Team All-American
                              PG: Dotun Atchinson (Marquette)
                              SG: Aras Hall (Xavier)
                              SF: Rasheed Tate (Georgetown)
                              PF: Duncan Houston (Temple)
                              C: Cuthbert Horton (Saint John's)

                              Second Team All-American
                              PG: Zach Billings (Cincinnati)
                              SG: Logon Hinrich (Maryland)
                              SF: Donell Ibikunle (Notre Dame)
                              PF: Aaron Dickey (Arkansas)
                              C: Deji Ray (St. Bonaventure)

                              Wow the Big East had a lot of All-Americans this year.

                              Freshman All American
                              PG: Igor Monroe (UCLA 86 OVR!!!)
                              SG: Taylor Bing (Virginia)
                              SF: Brandon Cuffle (Florida)
                              PF: Ulric DeJesus (Richmond)
                              C: Deron Fanning (Utah State)


                              BIG XII Champions: Oklahoma State
                              BIG XII Coach of the Year: Bill Self (Kansas)
                              BIG XII Player of the Year: Calvin Galbreath (C Iowa State)
                              BIG XII Freshman of the Year: Elton Holmes (SF Oklahoma)

                              First Team All-BIG XII
                              PG: Mose Frey (Kansas)
                              SG: Colby Hess (Oklahoma State)
                              SF: Bernie Lovelace (Texas A&M)
                              PF: Jay Bush (Nebraska)
                              C: Calvin Galbreath (Iowa State)

                              Second Team All-BIG XII
                              PG: L.F. Modrovich (Iowa State)
                              SG: A.J. Galloway (Colorado)
                              SF: Norman Abram (Oklahoma State)
                              PF: Darwin Peterson (Kansas State)
                              C: Kendrick Eldridge (Baylor)

                              Freshman All-BIG XII
                              PG: Erick Sola (Oklahoma)
                              SG: Ferdinand Sorrentine (Missouri)
                              SF: Elton Holmes (Oklahoma)
                              PF: Darryl Banjo (Oklahoma) - ed note: amazing name
                              C: Joel Padilla (Oklahoma)


                              End of Season Thoughts

                              This was not so much a tale of two seasons for the Wildcats as much as it was a testament to how long it took the Wildcats to adjust to West's style and for West to adjust to the Wildcats. The early season was a lost period that submarined any hopes for Kansas State to make postseason noise. On the other hand, Kansas State showed it could hang with its opponents in the Big XII -- combining some strong upsets (like against Oklahoma and Baylor) with showing an ability to consistently beat the bottom feeders of the division. Maybe if the Wildcats and West had gotten their act together sooner, they might have been looking at the other side of .500 this season.

                              With West making numerous cuts to start the season, everybody on the squad had an opportunity to jump into the rotation. Darwin Peterson finally was able to flex the talent he had been flashing for his entire career at Kansas State, while L.F. Reaser grew into the leadership role that West demands of his point guards. Damien Guinn, Roger Guzman, and Kudjo Coulibaly all provided steady play, and Moses Mathis proved to be an effective rotation player off the bench. Overall, the team was solid, but not exceptional. Good enough to stay in some games, but not good enough to seriously challenge elite competition.

                              Kansas State 2016-2017 Final Statistics Stats
                              PlayerGPMINPPGRPGAPGSPGBPGTPGFPG
                              D. Peterson
                              21.916.16.01.40.81.31.52.6
                              R. Guzman
                              18.19.65.41.00.61.61.32.9
                              D. Guinn
                              22.89.35.10.70.80.61.62.2
                              L. Reaser
                              23.38.82.75.91.40.02.32.4
                              K. Coulibaly
                              21.38.42.62.80.50.11.71.6
                              M. Mathis
                              17.07.34.50.50.51.40.52.3
                              D. Macura
                              11.93.42.01.80.70.11.01.0
                              J. Guzman
                              10.43.21.442.00.50.01.10.8
                              J. Brinkley
                              9.13.11.40.80.30.10.41.0
                              C. Geiger
                              6.02.21.10.10.20.00.40.4

                              Of course, starting next year what is in the past will be the past. A bunch of new faces are arriving to Manhattan, and maybe they will bring more talent. But a combined 101.2 minutes per game is a lot to replace.

                              The pressure will be on West to show he can move the program in the right direction next season -- especially in light of what the team showed during conference play. Still, there are a number of Wildcat faithful who will continue to wonder what might have been with this year's edition of the team. With a dearth of experience leaving the fold, the road only gets harder for Kansas State.

                              Ed note: the 2016-2017 Legacy File has been uploaded to 2kShare as OS West 2017
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                              • waytofailself
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                                Re: The Accidental Career of Guy West (CH2k8)


                                Coach West Delivers #8 Class to Manhattan

                                Coach West had urged patience with his fan base. He had attempted to tighten loose lips on campus and streamline the recruiting process. As a result of the relative radio-darkness, West felt plenty of heat when the Kansas State Wildcats netted no early season signings. Add in Javion Brinkley declaring, as soon as the season ended, that he was leaving the team despite being the only shooting guard on the roster and there were more rumblings of trouble. Especially when Brinkley cited Coach West as "Reasons #1, #2, and #3" for leaving. Suddenly the Wildcats were looking at another hole to fill in what had already been a trying and troublesome recruiting trail.

                                Many wondered whether West could handle competing for top recruits with other elite programs in the Nation. The answer, especially after leveraging his strong ties to the Northeast, is a resounding yes. Call it a come-from-behind victory. The Wildcats' class ranks 8th in the country and second only to Oklahoma in the Big XII.

                                Kansas State 2017 Recruiting Class
                                NAMEPOSCLASSHOMETOWNHTWTCALIBER
                                #22 DaMarcus Ross (AA)C #1HSBaltimore, MD (Mr. BB)7'1"241
                                #73 Branduinn GatlingSF #14HSBaltimore, MD6'9"236
                                #82 Esteban KummerSF #18HSOxnard, CA6'6"205
                                #92 Dannorriss WallsC #4HSBronx, NY6'11"240
                                #93 Dana WorthingtonC #5HSBethlehem, PA6'9"220
                                T Clarence Weaver (79)SFSOMemphis, TN6'7"241

                                West followed a similar blueprint to what he did at Norfolk State and Drexel: bring in size and the rest will follow. But did he follow the blueprint a little too closely? The recruiting class is entirely front court players. Not a single point guard or shooting guard is in the fold, meaning Senior Justin Guzman will take the lead after three years of riding the bench as the 3rd option at the 1 spot. And with Brinkley's departure, the 2 is a complete mystery.

                                When discussing the class, West had the following to say, "We did what we set out to do on the recruiting trial: improve our talent and improve our toughness. Each player we brought in is hungry and wants to contribute. This is a group who wants to leave an impact on Manhattan for a very long time."

                                Is this a watershed moment for the program, or will this influx of talent be held back by an incomplete roster? Time will tell. For now, here's a look at the newest Wildcats:

                                DeMarcus Ross (C from Baltimore, MD; All-American & Mr. Basketball): The centerpiece of West's recruiting haul, Ross actually ran into a lot of questions about whether he had peaked in talent as recruiting progressed. There was a lot of buzz about Ross entering the season as the #1 High School Center, but he did not entirely meet expectations in his Senior year. As a result, teams dropped off one by one, leading to only Kansas State seriously pursuing him by the end of the season. He has since shown his stuff in various all-star games. Ross is a man-child and defensive powerhouse. However, he is still learning the game after getting by for so long with his superior height, and he should benefit greatly from West's tutoring.

                                Branduinn Gatling (SF from Baltimore, MD): There are two phases to Gatling's game that sets him apart from his peers. He can shoot the ball, and he can run the floor. Gatling is a very long wing player who will create match-up headaches for his opponents. But if there appears to be one flaw in his game, it is that his natural talent is not paired with a killer instinct. In the closing moments Gatling can shrink under pressure when his team needs him the most. Hopefully that is a quality he can improve over the years.

                                Esteban Kummer (SF from Oxnard, CA): Consider him a jack of all trades, but master of none. Kummer did a little bit of everything on the floor. He'd play a point-forward role one possession, then get down and dirty in the post the next. His flexibility is a key attribute, but he still needs to work on his fundamentals -- especially his footwork. Kummer often found himself out of position in man-to-man situations in ways that will cost him dearly at the next level.

                                Dannorriss Walls (C from Bronx, NY): The book on Walls is that he is tough as nails. He attacks the paint with reckless abandon, fighting for rebounds and not being afraid to drop an elbow when necessary. It is not an unusual sight for Walls to leave a game bloody or bruised. Just call it another day on the court for the former hockey player who switched to basketball after growing 5 inches just before becoming a high school Freshman.

                                Dana Worthington (C from Bethlehem, PA): Although he did not sign early, Worthington is considered to be the "first" signing by West for Kansas State on the season. He is a workmanlike big man who plays a traditional back to the basket game and would rather play defense by controlling space in the paint than going for the SportsCenter Highlight reel block. And although he is the only West recruit without a double letter in his name, Worthington will help make a very imposing rotation with Walls and Ross. Of the three, Worthington is the most offensively polished coming out of high school.

                                Clarence Weaver (SF Transfer from Memphis): It has been a college career if disillusionment for Weaver. Growing up in the Memphis area, he lived the dream of getting recruited by his favorite and hometown team -- only to sit and wait his turn to get on the floor. The Tigers were crowded with defensive minded wing players, and Weaver is more of a slasher than a shooter who spaces the floor. West was very pleased to accept Weaver to the Wildcats, but we won't know until next year about how he will fit in with the squad. Expect him to spend this season focusing on training so he can show Memphis how badly they missed out.
                                The Accidental Career of Guy West (CH 2k8 Legacy - Ended)

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