Mike Leach fired

[MassNole]

Re: Mike Leach suspended from Alamo Bowl

I'll certainly give you a point on the scheduling issue. I would also say that Jimbo Fisher is a far superior recruiter than Mike Leach. That being said Leach has done wonders at Texas Tech and with a good defensive coordinator could be an elite coach. Sure he is a little crazy, but that isn't a bad thing so long as he wins.

[Speedy]

Re: Mike Leach fired

Maybe I'm the only one, but I think there's a lot more here than meets the eye...something just seems fishy.

While the action is unusual, I don't find it atrocious and extremely unethical; if I was in charge of a disgruntled/whiney kid like James and the kid claimed an injury, I would also have the same skepticism that Leach had - all of you would too, especially with the vague symptons that is derived from a concussion (to which the NFL is still dealing with).

Remember the little parable - "the boy who cried wolf"? Leach probably felt he was lying or trying to get out of practicing or whatnot and attempted to make him an example for the rest of the team. He certainly didn't have the right to do what he ordered but in what way was the kid harmed besides for his dignity? Seriously?

I believe it certainly warranted a fine but I don't see it as a fireable offence. Jim Leavitt reportedly did much worse at USF but nothing has been done to him. The university was looking for the 1st chance to boot him given what happened w/Leach & UW.

I fully expect more info come out...

[MassNole]

Re: Mike Leach fired

Maybe I'm the only one, but I think there's a lot more here than meets the eye...something just seems fishy.

While the action is unusual, I don't find it atrocious and extremely unethical; if I was in charge of a disgruntled/whiney kid like James and the kid claimed an injury, I would also have the same skepticism that Leach had - all of you would too, especially with the vague symptons that is derived from a concussion (to which the NFL is still dealing with).

Remember the little parable - "the boy who cried wolf"? Leach probably felt he was lying or trying to get out of practicing or whatnot and attempted to make him an example for the rest of the team. He certainly didn't have the right to do what he ordered but in what way was the kid harmed besides for his dignity? Seriously?

I believe it certainly warranted a fine but I don't see it as a fireable offence. Jim Leavitt reportedly did much worse at USF but nothing has been done to him. The university was looking for the 1st chance to boot him given what happened w/Leach & UW.

I fully expect more info come out...

In the USF case, the accuser retracted his accusation. In this case it seems to be escalating towards litigation.

[Jackdog]

Re: Mike Leach fired

If this has already been posted,sorry.
Emails dispute James's claims.

http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/story/12720824

Transcripts.

http://dennis-dodd.blogs.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/6270202/19238949

[Cebby]

Re: Mike Leach fired

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[BigDofBA]

Re: Mike Leach fired

Maybe I'm the only one, but I think there's a lot more here than meets the eye...something just seems fishy.

While the action is unusual, I don't find it atrocious and extremely unethical; if I was in charge of a disgruntled/whiney kid like James and the kid claimed an injury, I would also have the same skepticism that Leach had - all of you would too, especially with the vague symptons that is derived from a concussion (to which the NFL is still dealing with).

Remember the little parable - "the boy who cried wolf"? Leach probably felt he was lying or trying to get out of practicing or whatnot and attempted to make him an example for the rest of the team. He certainly didn't have the right to do what he ordered but in what way was the kid harmed besides for his dignity? Seriously?

I believe it certainly warranted a fine but I don't see it as a fireable offence. Jim Leavitt reportedly did much worse at USF but nothing has been done to him. The university was looking for the 1st chance to boot him given what happened w/Leach & UW.

I fully expect more info come out...

Tech wanted to get rid of leach. This was the lame excuse they needed.

[KHood55]

Re: Mike Leach fired

Apparently Adam James has a fat little girlfriend! And was so offended he had Leached whacked!

[Brandwin]

Re: Mike Leach fired

Something seems fishy about this. Tech guys wanted Leach out and this was a good enough reason in their eyes to pull the trigger.

So does this kid James play? If so, I wonder how many boo's he will get during the bowl game.

[BigDofBA]

Re: Mike Leach fired

Was James waterboarded, Manginoed, or just told to stay in an air conditioned equipment room?

High school kids get worse punishment than this. With the way some people acted, you would think James was being tortured.

Apparently players didn't like James. I think this is a case of a pansy player and his powerful daddy throwing a fit to get a coach fired.

[MassNole]

Re: Mike Leach fired

But why?

Considering that Texas Tech is the school who hired Bobby Knight, this is not a good reason to fire Leach. Unless of course Leach wanted out too and this was a mutual way to make it happen with really only Adam James looking stupid.

[Solidice]

Re: Mike Leach fired

Something seems fishy about this. Tech guys wanted Leach out and this was a good enough reason in their eyes to pull the trigger.

So does this kid James play? If so, I wonder how many boo's he will get during the bowl game.

Adam rarely played, maybe a few plays a game. he complained about playing time a lot and basically acted like he was all that since his dad is Craig James. if it wasn't for Leach, he would not even be at a FBS school. apparently the WR coach(forgot his name) at the time of James' recruitment did not want Adam on the team(it was apparently known then he was a spoiled lazy brat even then). Leach overruled him.

[KHood55]

Re: Mike Leach fired

No, James has not suited up for practice this week. He will not play in the bowl game. Leach will be fine, he will have another job soon.

[Maxattax3]

Re: Mike Leach fired

Why would Tech want to get rid of leach? Anyone remember Tech before Leach? Yikes. Its not like TTU has been pulling in crazy-good talent either... Leach's system is what has made it work. It seems like Leach was the best thing that ever happened to TTU football and they are firing him. I dont get it.

Edit: there has to be something else going on here

[MassNole]

Re: Mike Leach fired

Why would Tech want to get rid of leach? Anyone remember Tech before Leach? Yikes. Its not like TTU has been pulling in crazy-good talent either... Leach's system is what has made it work. It seems like Leach was the best thing that ever happened to TTU football and they are firing him. I dont get it.

Edit: there has to be something else going on here

Spike ****s was a fine coach and Byron Hanspard was a helluva RB who had a 2,000 yard season in 1995 or 1996. ****s also produced an undersized LB named Zach Thomas.

[Maxattax3]

Re: Mike Leach fired

Spike ****s was a fine coach and Byron Hanspard was a helluva RB who had a 2,000 yard season in 1995 or 1996. ****s also produced an undersized LB named Zach Thomas.

i love how they bleep spike's last name. Anyway, Im familiar with Tech's history... I still think Leach was the best thing that ever happened to TTU Football though.