Conference Re-Alignment Thread Part Who Knows

[Freakydeaky9]

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The only thing that sucks IMO about the "Alliance" is that now we only crown 1 out of 22. it would be better if they could both grab AQ

[Watson]

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Excuse me for not being able to detect your tone over the internet, but are you being a smart aleck or do you actually believe that the conferences are merging?

Les Miles is the only man chaotic enough to be commissioner of a 22-team conference

[BatsareBugs]

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Never, the BCS will just end up killing the football programs that don't make it into one of the superconferences and the MWC and C-USA are doing the only thing they can to stick around for a couple of years.

Despite this "alliance" I think the MWC ends up folding within a few years or becomes the WAC part 2.

[coogrfan]

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Les Miles is the only man chaotic enough to be commissioner of a 22-team conference

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[Redacted01]

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Excuse me for not being able to detect your tone over the internet, but are you being a smart aleck or do you actually believe that the conferences are merging?

I've learned that the internet is filled with people that don't realize it is just an agreement of sorts and not a conference. CBS's message board is flooded with people whining and moaning about how a 22-team conference doesn't make sense, never bothering to read or pay attention to how it is going to pit champion vs. champion. It's like people missed how the MWC tried to plan this with the WAC well over a year ago.

[bwburke94]

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This isn't going to work out so well. Anyone remember why the MWC exists in the first place. The WAC was getting way too big. If 17 was too big for Houston, Rice, and SMU, then 22 is way too big and they'll just quit, even if it's strictly in-division play. See the below image for details of the new merged conference.

[Redacted01]

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This isn't going to work out so well. Anyone remember why the MWC exists in the first place. The WAC was getting way too big. If 17 was too big for Houston, Rice, and SMU, then 22 is way too big and they'll just quit, even if it's strictly in-division play. See the below image for details of the new merged conference.

Houston was never part of the WAC; they were in the SWC and C-USA. And in-division play is the difference. Last time around, you had to play teams in the other division. This time around, you're not, and a lot more could be on the line... doubt it, but who knows. And SMU and Rice didn't actually break away; they stayed in the WAC. The MWC teams were the ones who broke away.

[TracerBullet]

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I've learned that the internet is filled with people that don't realize it is just an agreement of sorts and not a conference. CBS's message board is flooded with people whining and moaning about how a 22-team conference doesn't make sense, never bothering to read or pay attention to how it is going to pit champion vs. champion. It's like people missed how the MWC tried to plan this with the WAC well over a year ago.

I guess you missed his last post.

[Saturated Feline]

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the big east will probably still get UCF, but the boise, air force, navy additions more than likely wont happen. the big east is looking at houston and SMU also but no word from them yet. they possibly might look at teams like temple and ECU to join as well. i think the big east as a football conference will dissolve in the next couple years anyway or become the new C-USA with UConn and rutgers going to the ACC and West Virginia possibly going to the SEC east. leaving cincinnati, louisville, and south florida (all from the C-USA) looking for new homes like the Big 12 or Big 10 or possibly going independent maybe.

[fsquid]

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from what I'm reading, ESPN evidently has promised a good bit of money for a CUSA-MWC title game. Find that hard to believe, but many in the local media are reporting that.

[DonkeyJote]

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from what I'm reading, ESPN evidently has promised a good bit of money for a CUSA-MWC title game. Find that hard to believe, but many in the local media are reporting that.

I think it's a pretty good conference. Especially if the Big East folds, since they'll probably add USF and Cincinatti at least for football (I'd imagine two schools would have to play in the "West" for football while playing with the Conference USA for other sports - probably UTEP and Tulsa maybe?)

Even if all the schools they invite go, if West Virginia, UConn, and Rutgers leave, that leaves a conference of Cincinatti, USF, UCF, Louisville, SMU, Houston, Boise St, and Air Force. That's only 8, and that's assuming all 5 "invited" teams join, and the Big 12 stays at 10. If even one team says no, or Louisville is gone as well, then you're having to look for another team. And if WVU, UConn, and Rutgers all do leave, that means there will be no football team in the conference that had been there before 2005. I think they'd also have an extremely difficult time keeping their BCS bid. I just don't see why these schools should say yes. If I was any of them, I'd say no.

[dickey1331]

If I was any of them, I'd say no.

Why? When a BCS conference comes calling you say yes. CUSA/MWC doesn't have a BCS bid. They won't have one until at least 2 years and who wants to split TV money with 22 schools?



Do you really care where I sent this from?

[DonkeyJote]

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Why? When a BCS conference comes calling you say yes. CUSA/MWC doesn't have a BCS bid. They won't have one until at least 2 years and who wants to split TV money with 22 schools?



Do you really care where I sent this from?

But does the Big East really count? There's a decent chance they won't be a BCS conference, if any teams leave. Heck, if only West Virginia leaves, they may lose it. And this new conference may get one (the BCS can be reworked in 2013, I believe it was said).

[Redacted01]

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Why? When a BCS conference comes calling you say yes. CUSA/MWC doesn't have a BCS bid. They won't have one until at least 2 years and who wants to split TV money with 22 schools?



Do you really care where I sent this from?

But they aren't one conference. I'm willing to bet the TV deal the MWC conference has and the one C-USA has stay separate. MWC is on VS and C-USA is on CBS college sports. Doubt it changes.

And the C-USA title game is already on ESPN. All that is going to happen is they might get a bigger contract and it will be MWC-CUSA. Not as much is going to change as people think. The word "merger" is a very bad description of this. Now maybe at some point (but I don't think this alliance lasts beyond a couple years because they won't get a BCS bid) they merge completely for football if enough teams bolt. But if teams bolt, there is no hope of a BCS bid and the alliance is then rendered pointless unless ESPN pays a lot more for this new title game.

[TDenverFan]

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But they aren't one conference. I'm willing to bet the TV deal the MWC conference has and the one C-USA has stay separate. MWC is on VS and C-USA is on CBS college sports. Doubt it changes.

And the C-USA title game is already on ESPN. All that is going to happen is they might get a bigger contract and it will be MWC-CUSA. Not as much is going to change as people think. The word "merger" is a very bad description of this. Now maybe at some point (but I don't think this alliance lasts beyond a couple years because they won't get a BCS bid) they merge completely for football if enough teams bolt. But if teams bolt, there is no hope of a BCS bid and the alliance is then rendered pointless unless ESPN pays a lot more for this new title game.

Exactly what I was going to say. Hawaii-Tulane will not become a conference game now, unless they set up some special MWC-CUSA challenge.