Conference Re-Alignment Thread Part Who Knows

[He1nousOne1]

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But does the Big East really count? There's a decent chance they won't be a BCS conference, if any teams leave. Heck, if only West Virginia leaves, they may lose it. And this new conference may get one (the BCS can be reworked in 2013, I believe it was said).

As it stands, 6 out of 11 FBS conferences are BCS AQ status. That is over half and thus not a minority. Should Big East football remain but lose AQ status and no other conference receives that status then you have a situation where 5 out of 11 conferences have a seat at the BCS table and that is a minority and that gives the rest of the conferences legal grounds for one hell of a massive lawsuit.

Even if the Big East folds you have 5 out of 10 FBS conferences at the table and that is a dangerous number as well in regards to the lesser conferences staying in line or starting to look at legal action against the BCS.

For the status quo to remain in place a sixth AQ conference is necessary. So even if WVU leaves after the Big East has rebuilt it will still remain the 6th AQ conference because the BCS needs it to be such.

All the talk of conferences moving to 16 in my opinion is all hype. No conference will move to 16 due to the scheduling of 16 in two divisions. It is a step too far thus the Big East really has nothing to fear about losing UConn and Rutgers anytime soon until the NCAA writes rules for conferences with four divisions. That is when all hell breaks lose, relatively speaking.

[dickey1331]

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http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/college/2011/10/16/2011-10-16_rutgers_conference_call.html?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

Marinatto's master plan, which was approved Friday by the league's presidents and chancellors, includes adding Boise State, Air Force, Houston, SMU, Central Florida and the Middies to create a strong 12-team Big East football conference that would include two new nationally ranked programs and two distinguished military academies and would incorporate four new major TV markets in Dallas, Houston and Orlando and Washington D.C.

Most of the pieces look like they are falling into place.

Despite ESPN reports that Boise State and Air Force would stay in the Mountain West, it appears both schools are ready to pull the trigger and make the move to the Big East, which has a better chance to be an AQ league and should wind up with a more lucrative TV contract and maintain its BCS status.

Navy sounds it may still be camera shy, waiting to make sure there are no more surprises in this league. But the Middies could be easily replaced with Temple as a football-only member if they opt to remain an independent and life could go on, provided the current six members on the football side, which signed off on an increased $10 million dollar exit fee Friday, don't get wandering eyes and looking for the first exit door.

A new Big East, which would be divided into two divisions with Rutgers, Connecticut, West Virginia, Temple and Central Florida, in the East and Houston, Boise State, SMU, Houston, Air Force, Louisville and Cincinnati in the West, would be stronger than the old Big East with Pitt, Syracuse and TCU in football and more attractive to TV when it re-negotiates its contract next fall.

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/co...#ixzz1axF70lYZ

This is what I have heard

The perception I get from reading the BE boards is that that they believe that ESPN is putting out disinformation to hurt the BE. Reason - BE is negotiating with NBC/Universal and/or Fox for a better television deal.

[Bondgirl0072]

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from what I'm reading, ESPN evidently has promised a good bit of money for a CUSA-MWC title game. Find that hard to believe, but many in the local media are reporting that.

Everything is about money.

[He1nousOne1]

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A new Big East, which would be divided into two divisions with Rutgers, Connecticut, West Virginia, Temple and Central Florida, in the East and Houston, Boise State, SMU, Houston, Air Force, Louisville and Cincinnati in the West, would be stronger than the old Big East with Pitt, Syracuse and TCU in football and more attractive to TV when it re-negotiates its contract next fall.

According to this source.

West
Boise State
Houston
SMU
Air Force
Cincinnati
Louisville

East
Rutgers
UConn
WVU
Temple (or Navy)
UCF
USF (he forgot to mention in the article


The problem with this is that if the Big East takes the good Western opportunities then that leaves the Big 12 with no choice but to raid the Big East. Would Louisville turn down the Big 12 if the Big East was stabilized as above? In the big 12 Louisville becomes marginalized but remaining in a stable Big East with an expanded footprint you basically get all the perks you would get from the Big 12 while at the same time being able to be competitive with every team in the conference.

In my opinion the above Big East is a better choice for Louisville, West Virginia and Cincinnati than the Big 12 is. I do believe that Boise and Air Force would go for the Big 12 instead if they have that choice so it will be interesting to see if the Big 12 acts proactively or if we actually see the Big East winning the day with aggression. Who would have thought that could ever even be a possibility?


If the Big 12 pulls the trigger and wins on Boise and Air force I think the Big East still goes to 12 but they go to

East
WVU
Rutgers
UConn
Temple (Navy)
ECU (Navy)
UCF (USF)

West
Houston
SMU
Louisville
Cincinnati
USF (UCF)
Memphis (Southern Miss)

[Redacted01]

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This is what I have heard

But Villanova doesn't want Temple and their divisions have 5 and 7 teams. Did someone forget how to count when they wrote that?

[He1nousOne1]

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But Villanova doesn't want Temple and their divisions have 5 and 7 teams. Did someone forget how to count when they wrote that?

It only appears to have seven teams listed in the west because Houston is listed twice. He only forgot to list USF. Some pretty bad editing but the premise of the set up is right.

[BunnyHardaway]

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So they're gonna have the Big East - East and the Big East - West?

Please, for the love of all things, change the name of the freaking conference.

[dickey1331]

So they're gonna have the Big East - East and the Big East - West?

Please, for the love of all things, change the name of the freaking conference.

Why? When was the last time the Big 10 had 10 teams?


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[BunnyHardaway]

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Why? When was the last time the Big 10 had 10 teams?


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At least numbers aren't associated with geographical locations. A team in Idaho, Texas, or Colorado playing in a conference with "East" in it is wrong on so many levels.

[dickey1331]

At least numbers aren't associated with geographical locations. A team in Idaho, Texas, or Colorado playing in a conference with "East" in it is wrong on so many levels.

It's the same as Utah and Colorado playing in the Pacific-12 or Kentucky in the SouthEastern Conference.

I understand it doesn't make sense and I don't like some of the changes but why change a name that is already worth something? Big East is a household name and known to be a AQ conference. I would keep it for the brand.


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[TDenverFan]

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It's the same as Utah and Colorado playing in the Pacific-12 or Kentucky in the SouthEastern Conference.

I understand it doesn't make sense and I don't like some of the changes but why change a name that is already worth something? Big East is a household name and known to be a AQ conference. I would keep it for the brand.


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Colorado and Kentucky really aren't geographically bad compared to som eof this...

Why? When was the last time the Big 10 had 10 teams?


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The Big 10 is a historic type of name. The Big East, is not.

[Redacted01]

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So they're gonna have the Big East - East and the Big East - West?

Please, for the love of all things, change the name of the freaking conference.

The SouthEASTern conference has a West division. Chill.

At least numbers aren't associated with geographical locations. A team in Idaho, Texas, or Colorado playing in a conference with "East" in it is wrong on so many levels.

Have an open-mind here. If anything, Idaho is more east than Rutgers and UConn... you just have to go east for quite awhile.

[Tovarich]

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Why does everyone whine about Colorado being in the PAC-12 so much? Colorado has more in common with the schools in California and on the west coast than it does with schools in Iowa, Missouri, Oklahoma and Texas. Colorado may not be on the Pacific ocean exactly, but they are definitely more Pacific than Plains culturally, and they're equally out of place geographically regardless of which conference they were in. Everyone needs to stop taking geographical names so literally-just get over it.

[lonewolf371]

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I agree on Colorado, but what the Big East is doing is on a completely different level. There is a point where a conference gets too geographically ridiculous. I'm quite confident that the Big East will break up after a few years if the only way they can survive is by inviting teams from the Rocky Mountains. It's a terrible fit and everyone's going to want out after they get a taste of it.

[superjames1992]

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I agree on Colorado, but what the Big East is doing is on a completely different level. There is a point where a conference gets too geographically ridiculous. I'm quite confident that the Big East will break up after a few years if the only way they can survive is by inviting teams from the Rocky Mountains. It's a terrible fit and everyone's going to want out after they get a taste of it.

You gotta do what you gotta do after the ACC steals all your former football teams besides Rutgers and WVU.