Conference Re-Alignment Thread Part Who Knows

[Aggies67]

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I just hope that fellow Aggies finally stop whining about how "pathetic" the Big 12 is. We pulled the trigger and joined a conference that will eat our lunch in football for the next 50 years; why do we still concentrate on hating the big 12? Makes no sense. Just makes us look like big babies.

[Cusefan]

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I'm trying to see why Louisville would be considered. If I'm the Big XII I'm going after top ACC talent before I touch another Big East team. It seems like a Florida State- Miami- Virginia Tech- Clemson combination would be a good way to boost the conference.

I actually really like Louisvlle, the only thing holding them back in this expansion era is their academics. They have a good TV market, good facilities, great athletics program with one of the best football coaching staffs around. Give Lousivlle some time and I think they could be competing with the big boys.

[TDenverFan]

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ND to the ACC? Could be a sign that this could happen. At the very least, ND might move non-Football there from the Least.

http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/8145880/notre-dame-fighting-irish-acc-talk-orange-bowl

[Tovarich]

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Why doesn't the Orange Bowl just pick Notre Dame whenever it wants? They don't have a second locked down alignment. If they want 6-6 Notre Dame, they can go get them so long as we don't end up creating rules for who can play in the formerly referred to BCS games since there is no BCS. Notre Dame doesn't need to worry about having automatic anything. Virtually every bowl without contractual obligation to a conference will be banging on their door begging them to come whether their on-field performances merits it worthy or not.

[p_rushing]

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This has nothing to do with ND moving to any conference. All this is for ND to get a spot in a top bowl. They can't get into the other 2 big bowls, so the Orange Bowl is the only one left at the moment without another team.

[Perfect Zero]

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This has nothing to do with ND moving to any conference. All this is for ND to get a spot in a top bowl. They can't get into the other 2 big bowls, so the Orange Bowl is the only one left at the moment without another team.

That is unless they can get into one of the four conferences that have either the Rose or Champions Bowl (I still think that's going to be the Sugar Bowl). I just don't see them having a sweet deal like they had in the past with the four bowl BCS.

[USNAggie44]

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I read through this thread and I was a little late to the party. I thought all the rumors were hilarious because most of them turned out completely wrong. Now onto the Lone Star Showdone, It truly was a great rivalry. In the past 35 years, Its been tu, 18-17, give or take a game. I think how people think of the rivalry differs by age group. People who are 40+years old think its a better rivalry than people age 39 and under. If you don't live near Texas, you probably won't think its a big rivalry. Nowadays some people feel the rivalry is like Texans vs Cowboys. Texan fans think its a way bigger game than Cowboys fans. I sure hope it comes back, I love going to the game on Thanksgiving.

[Perfect Zero]

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Yeah I'd love to see Texas play the Aggies again, but I doubt it will ever happen outside of the postseason. It's just the way the whole thing played out.

[gordogg24p]

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Yeah I'd love to see Texas play the Aggies again, but I doubt it will ever happen outside of the postseason. It's just the way the whole thing played out.

It'll come back. I have faith. Give everyone a few years to let the egos fall to the wayside, and cooler heads will eventually prevail.

[dickey1331]

It'll come back. I have faith. Give everyone a few years to let the egos fall to the wayside, and cooler heads will eventually prevail.

I dont know about that. Texas still won't play Houston.


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[gordogg24p]

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I dont know about that. Texas still won't play Houston.

I don't think the Houston rivalry (if you could even go so far as to call it that) comes anywhere close to matching up with the Lone Star Showdown in terms of not only money but importance to the culture of the entire state of Texas. Not to mention that the TAMU/UT thing is all just egos overflowing, whereas the divorce Texas laid down with the SWC was an issue of money being lost because SMU, TCU, and Houston got themselves banned from TV time.

There is no benefit to Texas playing Houston. It's about as crucial as Texas continuing the series with Rice.

[dickey1331]

I don't think the Houston rivalry (if you could even go so far as to call it that) comes anywhere close to matching up with the Lone Star Showdown in terms of not only money but importance to the culture of the entire state of Texas. Not to mention that the TAMU/UT thing is all just egos overflowing, whereas the divorce Texas laid down with the SWC was an issue of money being lost because SMU, TCU, and Houston got themselves banned from TV time.

There is no benefit to Texas playing Houston. It's about as crucial as Texas continuing the series with Rice.

While Texas/Houston doesn't compare to Texas/A$M it goes to show you that Texas is hard to forgive. Just as SMU will Never join the Big 12 because of Texas. This is more of a rivalry for A$M then it is for Texas. I don't see Texas really caring about losing it as much as A$M does.


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[lonewolf371]

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While Texas/Houston doesn't compare to Texas/A$M it goes to show you that Texas is hard to forgive. Just as SMU will Never join the Big 12 because of Texas. This is more of a rivalry for A$M then it is for Texas. I don't see Texas really caring about losing it as much as A$M does.


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Seeing an SMU fan write "A$M" will likely be the most hilarious moment of my day. Thank you.

[capn_razzamataz]

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WAC rumors starting to heat up. Two different ones: 1) James Madison and Jacksonville State lead a group consisting of another six east-coast FCS teams to join the WAC (for football only). 2) The entire Big Sky conference merges with WAC.

Apparently the Big Sky merger was in real discussion but has since fizzled out. East coast teams are speculated to be James Madison, Jacksonville State, App State, Delaware, Liberty, and Georgia Southern. The other two spots aren't quite clear. Several different FCS schools have been mentioned. Even Lamar has been thrown around as a possibility.

[coogrfan]

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I don't think the Houston rivalry (if you could even go so far as to call it that) comes anywhere close to matching up with the Lone Star Showdown in terms of not only money but importance to the culture of the entire state of Texas.

Absolutely, 100% correct.

Not to mention that the TAMU/UT thing is all just egos overflowing

True.

whereas the divorce Texas laid down with the SWC was an issue of money being lost because SMU, TCU, and Houston got themselves banned from TV time.

That's the UT party line version of events. The truth is UT no longer wished to be associated with any SWC schools other than TAMU. The original proposal from the Big 8 was for a full merger with the SWC. Texas vetoed that option, offering as a counter proposal themselves and the Ags (only). But for the fact that TT and BU had the extreme good fortune to have alums in a position to force UT to take them along (Gov Ann Richards, Lt. Gov Bob Bullock, Speaker of the House Pete Lainey, and others), it would have been the Big X.

There is no benefit to Texas playing Houston. It's about as crucial as Texas continuing the series with Rice.

The first statement is correct, the second is not. The Horns play Rice because it is crucial to have a game in Houston every couple of years, for two reasons:

1. UT has a very large number of alums in Houston who enjoy getting a chance to see their team in person;
2. Greater Houston is one of the most fertile recruiting grounds in the nation (Houston sent 106 kids to FBS schools this year; if Houston was a state it would have ranked sixth in the nation behind TX, FL, CA, OH and GA).

Why play Rice instead of UH?

1. Rice is an almost guaranteed W, much more so than UH would be;
2. Deloss Dodds still hasn't forgiven the Coogs for an incident in 2001 that saw thousands of UT fans turned away from Robertson Stadium because the temporary seats erected for the game had been rendered unsafe by a week of torrential rain;
3. When UT permitted UH to join the SWC in the 70's, they did so in the belief that UH would be just another punching bag program for the Horns to kick around. It didn't work out that way. UH was member of the SWC for it's final twenty years, winning four championships. Only TAMU (6) and UT (5) won more during that span. Houston's 66-15 win in 1988 remains the worst defeat ever suffered by the Horns in Austin.