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  • LionsFanNJ
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    • Apr 2006
    • 9464

    #2821
    Originally posted by Cusefan
    good thought but what exactly does the BE offer that the ACC needs(I can only think of the BE Bball tourny). If the ACC wants a BE team, they get that team. The BE still has schools of value(RU, UCONN, UL) so I don't think FSU leaving would break the ACC.
    I think it would be a thought if the Big XII ends up poaching the ACC of more than one or two teams. If that's the case the ACC would just snatch up those three teams and leave the rest to rot like you said. Anyway I was really just throwing it out there
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    • jmik58
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      • Jan 2008
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      #2822
      Re: Conference Re-Alignment Thread Part Who Knows

      New OS front-page blog about the Rise of the Mega-Conference: http://www.operationsports.com/jmik5...ga-conference/

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      • Perfect Zero
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        • Jun 2005
        • 4012

        #2823
        Re: Conference Re-Alignment Thread Part Who Knows

        It's a bad idea to be deceptive about blog posts being on the front page of Operation Sports when it's really in your arena. Might want to edit that.
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        • jmik58
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          • Jan 2008
          • 2401

          #2824
          Re: Conference Re-Alignment Thread Part Who Knows

          Originally posted by Perfect Zero
          It's a bad idea to be deceptive about blog posts being on the front page of Operation Sports when it's really in your arena. Might want to edit that.
          I'm a staff writer for OS. If you scroll down the main page it's there.

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          • jmik58
            Staff Writer
            • Jan 2008
            • 2401

            #2825
            Re: Conference Re-Alignment Thread Part Who Knows

            If the four conference involved in the postseason bowl deals (Big 12, Pac 12, SEC, and Big 10) turn into four mega-conferences; how do you see other conferences and schools being absorbed?

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            • gordogg24p
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              • Jan 2012
              • 207

              #2826
              Re: Conference Re-Alignment Thread Part Who Knows

              Big 12 Conference begins its meetings tomorrow in Kansas City. If the Big 12 is gonna find some balls and decide whether to aggressively expand, it's gonna happen this week.

              It wouldn't surprise me if they decided that 12 was their number, then came out and said that they are taking applications to join the Big 12, rather than naming targets for themselves. Doing that could keep them out of any lawsuits from other conferences if the schools come to them rather than vice versa.
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              • Td1984
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                • Aug 2010
                • 560

                #2827
                Re: Conference Re-Alignment Thread Part Who Knows

                If anything big is going to happen in terms of re-alignment, it'll likely get started near the end of the month when the new playoff format gets decided upon.
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                • Perfect Zero
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                  • Jun 2005
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                  #2828
                  Re: Conference Re-Alignment Thread Part Who Knows

                  You're right, the playoffs are going to determine the make-up of the conferences. It's funny how people clammer for a bigger postseason, but still want the conferences of old. I still think that there will be an eight team playoff; it's just going to be that you're going to have a Conference Championship, a "Champions Bowl" between two conferences, then the National Championship.
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                  • TDenverFan
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                    • Jan 2011
                    • 3457

                    #2829
                    Re: Conference Re-Alignment Thread Part Who Knows

                    With the WAC dying, a 16 team playoff with Automatic Bids for the 10 conference Champions would probably work. The MWC and CUSA usually have a pretty good champion, and beating up a Sun Belt or MAC team is a pretty good reward for the top 2 teams.
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                    • DonkeyJote
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                      • Jul 2003
                      • 9177

                      #2830
                      Re: Conference Re-Alignment Thread Part Who Knows

                      Originally posted by Perfect Zero
                      You're right, the playoffs are going to determine the make-up of the conferences. It's funny how people clammer for a bigger postseason, but still want the conferences of old. I still think that there will be an eight team playoff; it's just going to be that you're going to have a Conference Championship, a "Champions Bowl" between two conferences, then the National Championship.
                      Maybe down the road. But the SEC and Big 12 have already said they don't want it to be tied to conference champions. So if two of the 4 power conferences (no one really thinks the Big East and ACC have a lot of say in this, do they?) don't want it, I'd say it being linked to conferences is very unlikely.

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                      • lonewolf371
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                        • Aug 2009
                        • 3420

                        #2831
                        Re: Conference Re-Alignment Thread Part Who Knows

                        Originally posted by jmik58
                        If the four conference involved in the postseason bowl deals (Big 12, Pac 12, SEC, and Big 10) turn into four mega-conferences; how do you see other conferences and schools being absorbed?
                        I know Delany has said a few times that he's not interesting in expanding the Big Ten. I guess the landscape could change, but if everyone else jumps to 16 I wouldn't be surprised if the Big Ten stayed at 12. The only thing that would change that would be Notre Dame. It's not like the Big Ten is going to get left out at this point.
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                        • Perfect Zero
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                          • Jun 2005
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                          #2832
                          Re: Conference Re-Alignment Thread Part Who Knows

                          Originally posted by DonkeyJote
                          Maybe down the road. But the SEC and Big 12 have already said they don't want it to be tied to conference champions. So if two of the 4 power conferences (no one really thinks the Big East and ACC have a lot of say in this, do they?) don't want it, I'd say it being linked to conferences is very unlikely.
                          It's not about what the Big East and ACC want. It's obvious that we have four winners in the contest, and they are going to seperate themselves for bigger television money. You're right about "down the road," but I don't think it's going to be that far down the line. Having a inter-conference championship leading into the National Championship would be a ratings boom while "saving" the Rose Bowl. Once the SEC sees this, I think they'll change their minds.

                          Originally posted by lonewolf371
                          I know Delany has said a few times that he's not interesting in expanding the Big Ten. I guess the landscape could change, but if everyone else jumps to 16 I wouldn't be surprised if the Big Ten stayed at 12. The only thing that would change that would be Notre Dame. It's not like the Big Ten is going to get left out at this point.
                          Once Notre Dame sees their championship window shut, it's going to be time to start talking with the Big Ten. Delany is blowing wind out of his hind quarters; he'll add as many teams as it takes to stay up with the new order. If Notre Dame is smart enough to realize it, you can bring in another eastern team and you have the magic fourteen number.

                          The thing college football has lacked is uniformity in scheduling. These new conferences are breaking down old rivalries and bringing in a sense of standard schedules. Once the big boys have their fill, the Big East, ACC, and all the other so called Division-I schools can start playing for their own.
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                          • DonkeyJote
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                            • Jul 2003
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                            #2833
                            Re: Conference Re-Alignment Thread Part Who Knows

                            The reason the SEC doesn't want it is because we're coming off a season where they had two teams in the National Championship, and there have been many other times where the SEC had 2 teams in the top 4. An 8 team playoff like you suggest may make more money overall, but the SEC would never be able to have more than 1 team in the final 4, and I think that is what causes their hesitation.

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                            • lonewolf371
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                              • Aug 2009
                              • 3420

                              #2834
                              Re: Conference Re-Alignment Thread Part Who Knows

                              Originally posted by Perfect Zero
                              Once Notre Dame sees their championship window shut, it's going to be time to start talking with the Big Ten. Delany is blowing wind out of his hind quarters; he'll add as many teams as it takes to stay up with the new order. If Notre Dame is smart enough to realize it, you can bring in another eastern team and you have the magic fourteen number.

                              The thing college football has lacked is uniformity in scheduling. These new conferences are breaking down old rivalries and bringing in a sense of standard schedules. Once the big boys have their fill, the Big East, ACC, and all the other so called Division-I schools can start playing for their own.
                              If Notre Dame calls the Big Ten would add them, but there's no reason for the conference to move for anyone else. The Big Ten isn't going to get left out no matter what the sizes of the other conferences are. Adding schools like Georgia Tech and Virginia just increases the footprint of the conference; they don't add dollars per school. With Missouri the conference has already demonstrated that it's not interested in that kind of expansion.

                              One thing that could cause expansion though would be if the NCAA made some sort of legislation that favored conferences with more teams, like it did with the championship games. Under that scenario I could see the Big Ten adding non-Notre Dame teams.
                              Last edited by lonewolf371; 06-09-2012, 03:19 PM.
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                              • TDenverFan
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                                • Jan 2011
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                                #2835
                                Re: Conference Re-Alignment Thread Part Who Knows

                                Boston University is headed to the Patriot League. I wonder if BU will add football (PL does not have football scholarships, although a plan is in place to add them in soon)
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