Conference Re-Alignment Thread Part Who Knows

[superjames1992]

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Would you agree that that is an incredibly pathetic reason for a school to join a conference? i mean, seriously, "media markets"? really? i mean, what is this supposed to be about? the history and tradition of college football wasn't created by catering to media markets.

Yes, I would agree, but follow the money, honey, and that's really the only thing that matters with conference realignment.

Is it sad? Yes. But it's the way it is.

The SEC surely didn't add Missouri for football prowess. It was for media markets.

WVU gave the Big 12 a larger geographic footprint and some inroads into the Pittsburgh and D.C. media markets (though WVU brought a good football/basketball program, too). TCU did seem to be solely for football, though.

And Colorado and Utah to the Pac-12 was probably primarily motivated by media markets and expanding the conference's geographic footprint.

[Pmoney327]

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Yes, I would agree, but follow the money, honey, and that's really the only thing that matters with conference realignment.

Is it sad? Yes. But it's the way it is.

The SEC surely didn't add Missouri for football prowess. It was for media markets.

WVU gave the Big 12 a larger geographic footprint and some inroads into the Pittsburgh and D.C. media markets (though WVU brought a good football/basketball program, too). TCU did seem to be solely for football, though.

And Colorado and Utah to the Pac-12 was probably primarily motivated by media markets and expanding the conference's geographic footprint.

Don't forget TAMU to give the SEC inroads into Texas

[superjames1992]

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Do you all think Boston College has a chance at the B1G? Yes, their football and basketball programs are mediocre, at best, but that would give the B1G Boston and pretty much lock up every major media market in the Northeast/Mid-Atlantic/Ohio Valley/Upper Midwest. The Big 10 Network would be seen on millions of television sets.

[Shibito]

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Do you all think Boston College has a chance at the B1G? Yes, their football and basketball programs are mediocre, at best, but that would give the B1G Boston and pretty much lock up every major media market in the Northeast/Mid-Atlantic/Ohio Valley/Upper Midwest. The Big 10 Network would be seen on millions of television sets.

Maybe in the future, but not this year. I don't think the Big Ten will be the first conference to make the move for 16. If the SEC or Pac-12 go to expand for 16, Boston College could be a candidate for the Big 10, especially as bait to lure Notre Dame into the Big 10.

[Tovarich]

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Pac-12 go to expand for 16

Absolutely will not happen.

[Shibito]

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Absolutely will not happen.

I could only see the Pac 12 or SEC making the first move, thus those were who I listed. Do you think they'll stay at 12 with so many going for 14 though?

[cdawg44]

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http://espn.go.com/ncf/conversations...rn-sources-say

Hoping this is true... I really don't like the Big East's West Coast expansion.

Totally get why Boise, San Diego St and BYU would reconsider returning to the MVC. Since there will be an AQ spot for the non-AQ schools, If someone ran the table in the MVC with all three back in the fold, they probably would get the spot, considering the Big East would have lost their potential flagship football programs. On top of that, decreased travel expenses as well. And with the Big East losing schools left and right, that TV deal is looking less and less appealing for NBC Sports Network. I get NBC is thristy for sports content, but they ain't going to overpay THAT much to get the Big East on their network, especially with Rutgers and one more team out the door.

[Tovarich]

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I could only see the Pac 12 or SEC making the first move, thus those were who I listed. Do you think they'll stay at 12 with so many going for 14 though?

16 would have happened if Texas was willing to share money with everyone else. When Texas said they weren't coming without the Longhorn Network, PAC expansion was dead. There is no one that adds a significant television market, and is a fit academically. Despite what the Oklahoma president said to try and save face, the Oklahoma schools were not worth expanding for without Texas. Adding schools just for the sake of adding schools won't happen out here. Will the SEC go to 16? Sure, if the ACC crumbles and they can get 2 of those schools from North Carolina or Virginia.

But there's no one out west worth expanding with. The Big 12 is secure for a while since they all had to cede their media rights to the conference for like 10 years or whatever. PAC expansion is Texas, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State and Texas Tech, or nothing. And that means it's pretty much nothing unless something unforeseen happens in the 2020 range with the stability of that conference (don't rule that out). Adding anyone else just takes away money from the current teams and only a couple of schools would improve the quality of football, which is not the important factor as many people seem to think (seriously, the Big 10 is taking Maryland and Rutgers-that's all you need to know about how important the quality of football is..***tgers might be good this year, but historically they are on a level of misery with Oregon State. And Maryland...yeah). Utah academically, isn't really up to PAC standards, but they were a little lax about that. The Big 10 and SEC could both go to 16, the PAC will stay at 12 unless it's Texas, etc.

[Rocky]

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I said it before and I'll say it again. Money doesn't drive anything.....WINNING drives everything. Since Maryland drove out Ralph Friedgen and Gary Williams, the school's athletic department has been in shambles.

I wish the ACC would say screw it and go to a 6 team conference with UNC, Duke, Wake, NC State, GA Tech, and UVA.

[TidePride50]

Admittedly, I am a college football purist and traditionalist but I'm not a big fan of all this realignment. I know change is inevitable, but that doesn't mean I have to like it.

[lonewolf371]

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The next possible things I see happening are Clemson and Florida State bolting for the Big 12. After that I could see the SEC moving into North Carolina and/or Virginia.

[gordogg24p]

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The next possible things I see happening are Clemson and Florida State bolting for the Big 12. After that I could see the SEC moving into North Carolina and/or Virginia.

Wouldn't be surprised to see the ACC get picked apart by the B1G, SEC, and Big 12, then merge with the Big East (after Boise, SDSU, and other western, BCS AQ-chasing schools return to geographical logic) for the sake of basketball.

[superjames1992]

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Rutgers to the B1G presser set for 2 PM.

[CelticPride17]

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SEC should absorb the geographically correct schools (the Carolinas, Georgia Tech, Clemson, FSU, and Miami) and let the Virginias fall to the Big East.

I know that's a horrible move from most standpoints, but at that point the SEC would be the best conference in every single sport. And for a 22nd team they could go after Louisville.

[Juce734]

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If the Big Ten could get North Carolina, and Duke then the B1G would be the premier basketball conference in the country. Obviously won't happen but maybe one of them could come along with Virginia.

The other way they could go is to go get Oklahoma and Oklahoma St. That would renew the Nebraska vs Oklahoma rivalry and the B1G would have a few great rivalries for football. They could split the conference East and West plus then could be almost on par with the SEC talent wise. Obviously the SEC would still be king though.