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  • cdawg44
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    • May 2003
    • 2936

    #3586
    Re: Conference Re-Alignment Thread Part Who Knows

    Maryland's Attorney General is suing the ACC in Maryland court. This is addition to the ACC lawsuit on Maryland in North Carolina court filed a few months ago.

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    • simgamer0005
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      • Feb 2010
      • 1772

      #3587
      Re: Conference Re-Alignment Thread Part Who Knows

      Originally posted by cdawg44
      Maryland's Attorney General is suing the ACC in Maryland court. This is addition to the ACC lawsuit on Maryland in North Carolina court filed a few months ago.

      http://www.wralsportsfan.com/marylan...-acc/11998981/
      No, make them pay it! Make them pay $52,266,342 for trying to run off to the B1G BS conference! The ACC has every right to make them pay an exit fee! That's because conferences weren't designed for teams to move to a new one every year like friggin musical chairs! Treat that as a frivolous lawsuit. Invalid and unenforceable? this is what you get when you try to leave your conference Maryland!

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      • cdawg44
        MVP
        • May 2003
        • 2936

        #3588
        Re: Conference Re-Alignment Thread Part Who Knows

        Originally posted by simgamer0005
        No, make them pay it! Make them pay $52,266,342 for trying to run off to the B1G BS conference! The ACC has every right to make them pay an exit fee! That's because conferences weren't designed for teams to move to a new one every year like friggin musical chairs! Treat that as a frivolous lawsuit. Invalid and unenforceable? this is what you get when you try to leave your conference Maryland!
        It should be interesting. The future of the league probably hinges on the exit fee holding up in court. If Maryland figures out a way to get it under 30 million to 33 million, then I think we start seeing more moves. BIG offers UVA, GT or UNC and SEC targets VT and NC State.
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        • p_rushing
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          • Feb 2004
          • 14514

          #3589
          Re: Conference Re-Alignment Thread Part Who Knows

          Originally posted by simgamer0005
          No, make them pay it! Make them pay $52,266,342 for trying to run off to the B1G BS conference! The ACC has every right to make them pay an exit fee! That's because conferences weren't designed for teams to move to a new one every year like friggin musical chairs! Treat that as a frivolous lawsuit. Invalid and unenforceable? this is what you get when you try to leave your conference Maryland!
          UMD and FSU did not vote for the $50 million and they challenged the legality of the increase to begin with.

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          • adice15
            MVP
            • Jul 2009
            • 2161

            #3590
            Re: Conference Re-Alignment Thread Part Who Knows

            Rumor is Tulsa will get invited to the Big East next week. While it's not my first choice, it's still way better than the new C-USA. We'd probably join in 2014, although it would be nice to pay out the conference and leave this year.
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            • MrOctober430
              MVP
              • May 2005
              • 1694

              #3591
              Re: Conference Re-Alignment Thread Part Who Knows

              I like how the C-USA is looking. I don't know why any school would ditch it to run to the Big East. The BE is a joke now.

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              • coogrfan
                In Fritz We Trust
                • Jul 2002
                • 15645

                #3592
                Re: Conference Re-Alignment Thread Part Who Knows

                Originally posted by MrOctober430
                I like how the C-USA is looking. I don't know why any school would ditch it to run to the Big East. The BE is a joke now.
                CUSA lineup for 2013:
                • Marshall
                • So Miss
                • Rice
                • UTEP
                • Tulsa
                • UNC Charlotte
                • FIU
                • La Tech
                • North Texas
                • Old Dominion
                • UTSA
                • MTSU
                • FAU

                Big East 2013

                • Louisville
                • Cincinatti
                • Rutgers
                • UConn
                • Temple
                • USF
                • UCF
                • Houston
                • Memphis
                • SMU



                The BE may not be the best conference in America, but compared to CUSA it's the freaking SEC.

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                • dickey1331
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                  • Sep 2009
                  • 14285

                  #3593
                  Yeah CUSA is crap now.


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                  • cdawg44
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                    • May 2003
                    • 2936

                    #3594
                    Re: Conference Re-Alignment Thread Part Who Knows

                    Originally posted by p_rushing
                    UMD and FSU did not vote for the $50 million and they challenged the legality of the increase to begin with.
                    Right, but they are bound by the increase. It passed with over 80% of membership. I wish them luck in getting out of it. Like it has been said before, if FSU is so hot and heavy to get to the Big XII, then pay the 50 million and bye. These rules are very similar to the Grand of Rights deal that the Pac-12, Big 12 do and like the SEC will do when their network starts up in 2014. The only difference is that you have to pay the money up front to get out versus not having you tv rights avaiable to you.
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                    • cdawg44
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                      • May 2003
                      • 2936

                      #3595
                      Re: Conference Re-Alignment Thread Part Who Knows

                      Originally posted by coogrfan
                      CUSA lineup for 2013:
                      • Marshall
                      • So Miss
                      • Rice
                      • UTEP
                      • Tulsa
                      • UNC Charlotte
                      • FIU
                      • La Tech
                      • North Texas
                      • Old Dominion
                      • UTSA
                      • MTSU
                      • FAU

                      Big East 2013

                      • Louisville
                      • Cincinatti
                      • Rutgers
                      • UConn
                      • Temple
                      • USF
                      • UCF
                      • Houston
                      • Memphis
                      • SMU



                      The BE may not be the best conference in America, but compared to CUSA it's the freaking SEC.
                      Yea, CUSA picked the bottom of the Sun Belt Conference as everyone they picked did not go to bowl games this season. While Arkansas State, UL-Monroe, Western Kentucky, UL-Lafayette (all bowl teams) are still in the Sun Belt. The only good program they picked up is MTSU. North Texas, FIU, FAU are all awful and UTSA, Charlotte and Old Dominion are all new FBS members. Lots of potential in the future, but terrible right now. ECU, Tulane and the rest have no interest in going back now.

                      With the Big East breakup, the schools moving in with USF, UCONN and Cincy will probably change their name and rebrand and start over and let the Catholic schools keep the Big East name. This allows the league to remove any negative connotations that have been associated with the Big East name. Tulsa gets added in all sports and you have 12 decent to good members in football and 10 basketball members that is very strong up top, and with much less fat at the bottom so the RPI won't be hurt by playing bad teams. This is why ECU will NOT get an all sports invite and Tulsa will be invite instead for all sports.
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                      • p_rushing
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                        • Feb 2004
                        • 14514

                        #3596
                        Re: Conference Re-Alignment Thread Part Who Knows

                        Originally posted by cdawg44
                        Right, but they are bound by the increase. It passed with over 80% of membership. I wish them luck in getting out of it. Like it has been said before, if FSU is so hot and heavy to get to the Big XII, then pay the 50 million and bye. These rules are very similar to the Grand of Rights deal that the Pac-12, Big 12 do and like the SEC will do when their network starts up in 2014. The only difference is that you have to pay the money up front to get out versus not having you tv rights avaiable to you.
                        Actually it is nothing like that. The ACC imposed the fine immediately, giving any team no chance to avoid the fine. They also had just voted to raise it before that. The fees are also not supposed to be that large. UMD has a very good case to not pay the fine, FSU may, but they need to leave before the start of next season. If they don't, they have to hope that UMD gets the entire fine thrown out invalid.

                        Also, FSU doesn't have the $50 million to pay, the very reason they should be leaving the ACC.

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                        • cdawg44
                          MVP
                          • May 2003
                          • 2936

                          #3597
                          Re: Conference Re-Alignment Thread Part Who Knows

                          Originally posted by p_rushing
                          Actually it is nothing like that. The ACC imposed the fine immediately, giving any team no chance to avoid the fine. They also had just voted to raise it before that. The fees are also not supposed to be that large. UMD has a very good case to not pay the fine, FSU may, but they need to leave before the start of next season. If they don't, they have to hope that UMD gets the entire fine thrown out invalid.

                          Also, FSU doesn't have the $50 million to pay, the very reason they should be leaving the ACC.
                          Well, that's FSU fault. FSU had an SEC invite and played the folks in Birmingham in 1991 to get to the ACC after the ACC told them no the first time. So they burned that bridge to get there. If Maryland and FSU read the bylaws it clearly shows that the league can raise the exit fee once new members join the league. The fee was raised after Notre Dame got their invite in September. It was a legal and binding vote once the vote reached over 75% of the membership. Just because your school hates it, doesn't make it any less binding.

                          Besides, lets say things don't work out with the Big 12 long term (say OU goes to the Pac-12 once the GOTR deal ends for them), you can't get out of there either because they own your tv rights. The very high exit fee plays the exact same role that GOTR deals do and will do in the future.

                          Plus, FSU had their chance to get out last summer when the Big 12 rumors started up and didn't take it or announce intentions to leave before fee went up. They expressed clearly a desire to remain as a full member of the ACC publicly and didn't take a single step to make an effort to leave.
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                          • BurghFan
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                            • Jul 2009
                            • 10046

                            #3598
                            Re: Conference Re-Alignment Thread Part Who Knows

                            The Mountain West Conference announced its division names and plans for a conference championship game to be played on December 7, 2013 hosted by the team with the best record. The Divisions are Mountain and Western and are essentially East and West.

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                            • simgamer0005
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                              • Feb 2010
                              • 1772

                              #3599
                              Re: Conference Re-Alignment Thread Part Who Knows

                              Originally posted by BurghFan
                              The Mountain West Conference announced its division names and plans for a conference championship game to be played on December 7, 2013 hosted by the team with the best record. The Divisions are Mountain and Western and are essentially East and West.

                              Mountain West Announces Division Names, Championship Game
                              thanks for the info. so i guess San Diego State decided to come back home!

                              I am reading elsewhere that it's the team with the highest BCS ranking that hosts the CCG. maybe it's best record, but if the two teams have identical records, then it goes to BCS ranking? I don't like the idea of voters determining who gets that home game. i think it would be better if it was the team with best record gets the home game, but if they are tied, only then it's neutral site. (like that's gunna happen)

                              but while in general i don't like divisions in conferences, at least the names fit and are logical here. looks like 2012 will be the last time there will be co-champions in the MWC. i am excited about mountain west football this year. i guess we have to now wait for the 2013 conference schedule to be released. the one concern i have with the divisions is the unbalanced schedules. the teams that don't have to play boise state will have an advantage to win their division, but it will hurt their BCS ranking.

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                              • TracerBullet
                                One Last Job
                                • Jun 2009
                                • 22119

                                #3600
                                Re: Conference Re-Alignment Thread Part Who Knows

                                C-USA Divsions:

                                EAST:
                                East Carolina
                                FAU
                                FIU
                                Marshall
                                MTSU
                                Southern Miss
                                UAB

                                WEST:
                                Louisiana Tech
                                North Texas
                                Rice
                                Tulane
                                Tulsa
                                UTEP
                                UTSA


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