50(ish) Threshold-based Slider Set for NCAA 14

[VTHokie525]

Re: 50(ish) Threshold-based Slider Set for NCAA 14

It doesn't really matter when you do it.

Think of it as two completely independent slider sets, but both impact things (the main menu less so than the dynasty). Put it this way, if my main menu sliders are at default but I do a full overhaul in dynasty, the game (within that dynasty file) will change based on those changes in dynasty (i.e. dynasty sliders work fine). But, if I suddenly change my main menu settings, it will subtly change how that dynasty plays.

It's a minor impact, but it is still there. No matter how your main menu is set, it will affect how the dynasty plays out (even if they match)...this is why dynasty plays differently than Play Now games.

So essentially I could be editing the sliders in my dynasty, thinking that it'll change the gameplay but in reality the sliders in the main menu could be affecting it the entire time?

[Luca_Blight]

Re: 50(ish) Threshold-based Slider Set for NCAA 14

So essentially I could be editing the sliders in my dynasty, thinking that it'll change the gameplay but in reality the sliders in the main menu could be affecting it the entire time?

Hey VTHokie whats up man? how have your dynasties been going?

I think JoshC is right. i noticed big differences in game play when sliders in the home menu, effect how the game plays in dynasty mode.

If you have a slider set that works good in main menu, then i suggest using that same set...in every dynasty. If your gonna make changes in settings or sliders in your dynasty..then make sure the changes are the same in main menu.

Same thing with madden 17 on ps4/xb, main menu settings reflect how the game play is in a franchise mode.

Sorry to keep repeating myself about this.. but this is important lol

[JoshC1977]

Re: 50(ish) Threshold-based Slider Set for NCAA 14

So essentially I could be editing the sliders in my dynasty, thinking that it'll change the gameplay but in reality the sliders in the main menu could be affecting it the entire time?

Yes, but the dynasty sliders work. Probably the simplest approach is to match them up. Then do all of your testing within dynasty mode. To be honest, 99% of the time, there is no real need to offset them from each other.

Remember that you can play all other games within dynasty mode, so you cam use those other games to test a variety of matchups.

[VTHokie525]

Re: 50(ish) Threshold-based Slider Set for NCAA 14

Yes, but the dynasty sliders work. Probably the simplest approach is to match them up. Then do all of your testing within dynasty mode. To be honest, 99% of the time, there is no real need to offset them from each other.

Remember that you can play all other games within dynasty mode, so you cam use those other games to test a variety of matchups.

I actually played a game last night using your sliders and had a great game! I've used your sliders before although I never had good results but it was probably due to the fact that I never matched the main menu sliders with the dynasty sliders as you mentioned. The only thing I noticed was that the CPU seemed to throw a lot of out routes and the db's would always over commit on some routes, especially the comeback (I feel like it's almost impossible to fix this). Also, I could never break for a big run which I feel like there's at least a couple per game in real life, but I was playing Ohio St. so that might've been why. Other than that I had a really fun game, but that was only one game so I'll have to do some more testing.

[JoshC1977]

Re: 50(ish) Threshold-based Slider Set for NCAA 14

I actually played a game last night using your sliders and had a great game! I've used your sliders before although I never had good results but it was probably due to the fact that I never matched the main menu sliders with the dynasty sliders as you mentioned. The only thing I noticed was that the CPU seemed to throw a lot of out routes and the db's would always over commit on some routes, especially the comeback (I feel like it's almost impossible to fix this). Also, I could never break for a big run which I feel like there's at least a couple per game in real life, but I was playing Ohio St. so that might've been why. Other than that I had a really fun game, but that was only one game so I'll have to do some more testing.

Comeback and curl patterns are glitchy in this game. Matt and I once spent a 12 hour day on twitch trying to fix the DB over reacting (essentially running away from the receiver). Not sure if that is the animation you refer to, but if so, it is not fixable.

[VTHokie525]

Re: 50(ish) Threshold-based Slider Set for NCAA 14

Comeback and curl patterns are glitchy in this game. Matt and I once spent a 12 hour day on twitch trying to fix the DB over reacting (essentially running away from the receiver). Not sure if that is the animation you refer to, but if so, it is not fixable.

Yeah that's what I was referring to but I figured it couldn't be fixed. I was thinking about these the other day and one thing that I kind of dislike is how the intentional grounding is set at 0. I know there is a reason for that to make these sliders work but then you can basically get rid of the ball as much as you'd like without getting a IG called on you. I know IG doesn't really happen very often but I'd kind of like to see it happen when I'm playing.

[JoshC1977]

Re: 50(ish) Threshold-based Slider Set for NCAA 14

Yeah that's what I was referring to but I figured it couldn't be fixed. I was thinking about these the other day and one thing that I kind of dislike is how the intentional grounding is set at 0. I know there is a reason for that to make these sliders work but then you can basically get rid of the ball as much as you'd like without getting a IG called on you. I know IG doesn't really happen very often but I'd kind of like to see it happen when I'm playing.

It's NEVER called on the CPU and we had it as high as 100. From a penalty perspective, all it really does is keep online cheese from happening.

[VTHokie525]

Re: 50(ish) Threshold-based Slider Set for NCAA 14

It's NEVER called on the CPU and we had it as high as 100. From a penalty perspective, all it really does is keep online cheese from happening.

Dang...it's a shame that the penalty mechanics in this game are broken, along with quite a bit of other stuff. Sorry if I've been asking so many questions here lately lol. I've just been trying to figure out all of the variables in the game as I can and I know you prob know almost everything about it for the amount of time you've spent testing/playing it. Thanks man!

[VTHokie525]

Re: 50(ish) Threshold-based Slider Set for NCAA 14

Does the injury setting have any affect on the gameplay? I thought I remember seeing something a long time ago that said it does but I might just be thing about fatigue cause I know that does. Also what house rules do you usually play with?

[JoshC1977]

Re: 50(ish) Threshold-based Slider Set for NCAA 14

Does the injury setting have any affect on the gameplay? I thought I remember seeing something a long time ago that said it does but I might just be thing about fatigue cause I know that does. Also what house rules do you usually play with?

I wouldn't be shocked if it does....but I really haven't studied....it certainly does on Madden, but it is an actual slider on that game and not a toggle.

House rules in-game, none really....I just play sim and mix up my plays. I DO try to avoid running too many curl patterns because of the glitch, but that's pretty much the closest I come to a "house rule". I also don't do a ton of audibling on offense in terms of route switching and so on...I will flip runs based on alignment and shade my o-line. But most college QBs don't have a ton of autonomy to change plays.

[DavidTheGreat20]

Re: 50(ish) Threshold-based Slider Set for NCAA 14

Been playing a few games on the OP set and I'm loving it again. Gameplay is solid and I'm not having shootouts every game like I'm used to before.

However, my gripe is more of a scheme/playcalling issue on D. I just had a game where the opposing QB went 21/25 and played like Alex Smith with all the checkdowns. Is there any way to stop this? The dude never tested my secondary downfield once, and he's got an above-average arm (if it means anything).

[JoshC1977]

Re: 50(ish) Threshold-based Slider Set for NCAA 14

Been playing a few games on the OP set and I'm loving it again. Gameplay is solid and I'm not having shootouts every game like I'm used to before.

However, my gripe is more of a scheme/playcalling issue on D. I just had a game where the opposing QB went 21/25 and played like Alex Smith with all the checkdowns. Is there any way to stop this? The dude never tested my secondary downfield once, and he's got an above-average arm (if it means anything).

What was his STR rating?

[DavidTheGreat20]

Re: 50(ish) Threshold-based Slider Set for NCAA 14

What was his STR rating?

He has a 65 STR rating and 84 arm.


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[JoshC1977]

Re: 50(ish) Threshold-based Slider Set for NCAA 14

He has a 65 STR rating and 84 arm.


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Usually the strength rating is the biggest culprit (THP isn't critical)...but 65 is solid. I only get nervous when their strength ratings are below 60ish...not a hard and fast number....just more of a guide.

Sounds like you just had one of those games....they get into that mode, you have to find some way of stopping those short passes or else, they will just peck you to death, adjusting the coach strategy to aggressive zone helps somewhat....you almost just have to sell-out to stop it....basically invite them to attack you deep.

[DavidTheGreat20]

Re: 50(ish) Threshold-based Slider Set for NCAA 14

Usually the strength rating is the biggest culprit (THP isn't critical)...but 65 is solid. I only get nervous when their strength ratings are below 60ish...not a hard and fast number....just more of a guide.

Sounds like you just had one of those games....they get into that mode, you have to find some way of stopping those short passes or else, they will just peck you to death, adjusting the coach strategy to aggressive zone helps somewhat....you almost just have to sell-out to stop it....basically invite them to attack you deep.

Is there some hidden boost to a player according to his STR?

I luckily didn't give up a ton of passing yards (less than 200) due to good tackling. Thanks for the tip, I'll have to try it.

By the way, does having aggressive coverage settings help force more INTs, I've only had 1 interception in about 5 games so far.