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  • jpdavis82
    All Star
    • Sep 2005
    • 8793

    #31
    Re: VSN Arcade Podcast scheduled to interview EA's Rex Dickson and Clint Oldenberg!

    Bill just tweeted me that it won't be up until the am because he had to do some audio editing.

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    • Danimal
      MVP
      • Mar 2003
      • 2199

      #32
      Re: VSN Arcade Podcast scheduled to interview EA's Rex Dickson and Clint Oldenberg!

      Originally posted by roadman
      Thanks, I think? How long have we been asking for this, I ask on a yearly basis and every opportunity in between.

      Ish.................
      Preaching to the choir my man. It is what it is, I'm just not their target audience.

      But at least they are focusing on the fundamentals in Madden 25. Maybe when I'm 60 they will have penalties in the game.
      <a href="http://www.operationsports.com/Danimal/blog/6756-going-old-school-v1/">Read my blog Going Old School v1 GridIron! football.

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      • msdm27
        Pro
        • Nov 2009
        • 956

        #33
        Re: VSN Arcade Podcast scheduled to interview EA's Rex Dickson and Clint Oldenberg!

        Originally posted by Danimal
        Preaching to the choir my man. It is what it is, I'm just not their target audience.

        But at least they are focusing on the fundamentals in Madden 25. Maybe when I'm 60 they will have penalties in the game.
        I take it you're 27 right now? Because it seems it's gonna be long before they get ish right.

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        • ghettogeeksta
          Banned
          • Sep 2011
          • 2632

          #34
          Re: VSN Arcade Podcast scheduled to interview EA's Rex Dickson and Clint Oldenberg!

          Originally posted by radatdude2
          Thanks, I'm just baffled that a 2+ man tackle is not considered fundamental/ core gameplay for the game of football. it's as common as a handoff to a running back, doesn't happen every play but pretty often throughout the corse of a game. I agree I think it's not a effort thing from the developers but an ability thing. So why be so offended when comparisons are made ?! Keeping it real and being straight forward is not only being honest about the things you choose to be straight up about, but being straight up overall that's what builds credibility.
          It really should be unacceptable that true gang tackling is not in Madden by now especially for next gen! These guys are basically building the game from scratch starting with game-play. They should have had a small team of engineers workin on next-gen Madden like 3-4 years ago, now instead of the first next-gen title addressing all the legacy gameplay issues we have to wait years for them to get each aspect of gameplay right! In the SIM Perspective interview the word fix, as in fix this game was used quite a bit, that says a lot. It really sucks that they have no comp!
          Last edited by ghettogeeksta; 10-25-2013, 08:18 AM.

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          • jpdavis82
            All Star
            • Sep 2005
            • 8793

            #35
            Re: VSN Arcade Podcast scheduled to interview EA's Rex Dickson and Clint Oldenberg!

            Originally posted by ghettogeeksta
            It really should be unacceptable that true gang tackling is not in Madden by now especially for next gen! These guys are basically building the game from scratch starting with game-play. They should have had a small team of engineers workin on next-gen Madden like 3-4 years ago, now instead of the first next-gen title addressing all the legacy gameplay issues we have to wait years for them to get each aspect of gameplay right! In the SIM Perspective interview the word fix, as in fix this game was used quite a bit, that says a lot. It really sucks that they have no comp!
            They are doing it right, working on all of the fundamentals first. What is the point in having crappy gang tackling this year or the next then having to redo it in a few years? We don't have realistic 1 to 1 tackles yet, so why not work on those first, and then work on multiple player tackles?

            People don't want to wait, but the alternative is half way doing things and that is what got us to where we are today. I really don't think people know or understand what they want sometimes. Previous sports games had great foundational fundamentals at the core, so they could add all of these other things to it. Madden doesn't have a great foundation and that is why it's going to take some time.

            If there was competition right now we would have to wait for them to build their game too. The bottom line is no matter what it's going to take time and Madden getting it right is the quickest and IMO best option. There may be another football game made if the license ends next Spring, but the earliest they would have a game ready is 2-3 years from now.

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            • roadman
              *ll St*r
              • Aug 2003
              • 26339

              #36
              Re: VSN Arcade Podcast scheduled to interview EA's Rex Dickson and Clint Oldenberg!

              I'm assuming there is still some issues with the audio?

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              • GiantBlue76
                Banned
                • Jun 2007
                • 3287

                #37
                Re: VSN Arcade Podcast scheduled to interview EA's Rex Dickson and Clint Oldenberg!

                Originally posted by roadman
                Thanks, I think? How long have we been asking for this, I ask on a yearly basis and every opportunity in between.

                Ish.................
                LOL - you have to laugh at this point. Imagine NBA 2k with no fouls being called. I find it ridiculous.

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                • ruttentud
                  Rookie
                  • Jan 2013
                  • 268

                  #38
                  Re: VSN Arcade Podcast scheduled to interview EA's Rex Dickson and Clint Oldenberg!

                  Ah, I should've read the date...
                  No TV and no beer make Homer go something something

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                  • radatdude2
                    Rookie
                    • Feb 2008
                    • 390

                    #39
                    VSN Arcade Podcast scheduled to interview EA's Rex Dickson and Clint Oldenberg!

                    Originally posted by jpdavis82
                    They are doing it right, working on all of the fundamentals first. What is the point in having crappy gang tackling this year or the next then having to redo it in a few years? We don't have realistic 1 to 1 tackles yet, so why not work on those first, and then work on multiple player tackles?

                    People don't want to wait, but the alternative is half way doing things and that is what got us to where we are today. I really don't think people know or understand what they want sometimes. Previous sports games had great foundational fundamentals at the core, so they could add all of these other things to it. Madden doesn't have a great foundation and that is why it's going to take some time.

                    If there was competition right now we would have to wait for them to build their game too. The bottom line is no matter what it's going to take time and Madden getting it right is the quickest and IMO best option. There may be another football game made if the license ends next Spring, but the earliest they would have a game ready is 2-3 years from now.
                    jp i think your a good guy, but i don't care who the current developer is, because its all under the EA umbrella. so whoever is developing the game is responsible. How much longer do we wait for basic fundamental issues and general football items to be implemented into the game. We always hear coach speak and nothing changes its always next year. people keep comparing the basketball to madden because has their gameplay changed much from current gen to next gen? no but their brand of gameplay is considered to be one of the best and they have blown us away with graphics. Madden hasn't done either. bad gameplay on current gen is being port to next gen and the graphics on next gen are not very impressive. I will give madden a chance, im just tired of the lame excuses.
                    Last edited by radatdude2; 10-25-2013, 01:42 PM.

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                    • jpdavis82
                      All Star
                      • Sep 2005
                      • 8793

                      #40
                      Re: VSN Arcade Podcast scheduled to interview EA's Rex Dickson and Clint Oldenberg!

                      It's up now I'll be posting cliff notes soon.

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                      • Gjordan
                        Rookie
                        • Aug 2011
                        • 105

                        #41
                        Re: VSN Arcade Podcast scheduled to interview EA's Rex Dickson and Clint Oldenberg!

                        Originally posted by jpdavis82
                        It's up now I'll be posting cliff notes soon.
                        Where can we listen? Is there a link?
                        "People don't care if their wrong, they just want to be right."

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                        • tnixen
                          MVP
                          • Oct 2011
                          • 3184

                          #42
                          Re: VSN Arcade Podcast scheduled to interview EA's Rex Dickson and Clint Oldenberg!

                          Originally posted by Gjordan
                          Where can we listen? Is there a link?

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                          • MrBill
                            Rookie
                            • Aug 2003
                            • 115

                            #43
                            Re: VSN Arcade Podcast scheduled to interview EA's Rex Dickson and Clint Oldenberg!

                            Here is the link to the podcast. It's available on the web and also via iTunes-

                            Commissioner - The 220 Madden League

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                            • TheBuddyHobbs
                              Banned
                              • Apr 2013
                              • 2312

                              #44
                              Re: VSN Arcade Podcast scheduled to interview EA's Rex Dickson and Clint Oldenberg!

                              True-step only applies when user has control of a player (including defense), or when the CPU controls ball carrier.

                              Expect P.I. penalties in two cycles...

                              No bad snaps because it would take the game out of the tournament players hands through no fault of their own.

                              Oline/Dline you and the CPU can break out of animations.

                              DB's in zone will break to the ball better.

                              QB sig styles sounds like it won't be touched for quite awhile.

                              Made excuses about graphics it being the first year. Hmm NBA 2k14 looks pretty good and it's the first year.

                              No pregame/halfgame/postgame for awhile. Only focusing on commentary and cameras right now.

                              2 years you will see the route they take whether it be ESPN, CBS or EA presentation.

                              5 or 6 camera angle options.

                              No more dropping back and running out of the pocket. As in the cheesers who snap the ball and just run backwards.

                              Throwing the receiver open is still possible. They are looking into it for next year. Maybe tweak the accuracy of it.

                              No more back of the box features. No more removing features.

                              Blocking will be worked on year in and year out. With a 3 to 4 year plan of it. True gap play. Overhaul of playaction system.
                              Last edited by TheBuddyHobbs; 10-25-2013, 04:31 PM.

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                              • UptheARSEnal
                                Banned
                                • Sep 2013
                                • 59

                                #45
                                Re: VSN Arcade Podcast scheduled to interview EA's Rex Dickson and Clint Oldenberg!

                                Originally posted by TheBuddyHobbs
                                P.I. penalties expect it in two cycles... Are you kidding me?

                                Brung up tournament players and the fact they don't want bad snaps because basically tourney players would get pissed. WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO I love this. I love Madden...

                                The more things change the more they stay the same.

                                I have no idea why EA doesnt keep making Madden for the tournament ballas, nano glitchers and other people who never played the sport, and get EA Canada (who seem to have a clue about making videogames) to come out with a sim game called NFL 15. Tournament ballas can money play, nano blitz and get a decent ego stroke, the rest of us can actually play football.

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