CPU vs. CPU in offline CFM? (Madden NFL 16)

[bugkill1sf]

Re: CPU vs. CPU in offline CFM? (Madden NFL 16)

Look, there are people on the dev team who are blatantly leaving these functions out. There is ZERO point for us that enjoy offline CFM to purchase any new Madden titles without options to spectate or coach games. Enough of the wishing they would put it in and simply NOT purchase. I already have Madden 16 and it's called Madden 15, since it doesn't offer anything of relevance to the offline CFM.

You want change, don't buy it, unless it has a significant price cut. Madden 15 is a decent game for what it provides, but I have no interest buying Madeen 16 without the options to edit draft classes or being able to coach/spectate games. Far better message to send that doing polls and begging EA to add something that was once in the series and makes the game more versatile for all gamers.

[mestevo]

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It's surely on a list, but resources aren't infinite and much like this YouTubers ranking it has to complete with other initiatives, projects and fixes for resources.

[bugkill1sf]

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It's surely on a list, but resources aren't infinite and much like this YouTubers ranking it has to complete with other initiatives, projects and fixes for resources.

That's just it. How much "resources" does it take to implement something that is already in the game (play now) or has been in the series? It is laughable to suggest that gamers need to beg these guys to provide more options to play CFM offline. It is Madden 16!!! We have already had two years of CFM with very minor updates. I expected EA to pull a 2K with what they did with NBA 2k15 and made the franchise mode very gamer friendly with all the options.

Sorry, the bar has been raised with respect to franchise mode on sports game. Don't care about initiatives. Either it gets done or doesn't which is the difference between day 1 purchase or discount buy. Pretty simple because the community has invested enough in this series to have more options to play the game.

[Bolieve]

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It's surely on a list, but resources aren't infinite and much like this YouTubers ranking it has to complete with other initiatives, projects and fixes for resources.

Yeah, it never should have been taken out. Games are supposed to offer more choices, not less. I think we have less than year's past minus graphics and improved game play.

[redsox4evur]

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Look, there are people on the dev team who are blatantly leaving these functions out. There is ZERO point for us that enjoy offline CFM to purchase any new Madden titles without options to spectate or coach games. Enough of the wishing they would put it in and simply NOT purchase. I already have Madden 16 and it's called Madden 15, since it doesn't offer anything of relevance to the offline CFM.

You want change, don't buy it, unless it has a significant price cut. Madden 15 is a decent game for what it provides, but I have no interest buying Madeen 16 without the options to edit draft classes or being able to coach/spectate games. Far better message to send that doing polls and begging EA to add something that was once in the series and makes the game more versatile for all gamers.

OK cool EA loses you as 1 consumer but gains 500,000 new ones because they have grown up to just get video games and their parents buy the game for them as a birthday or christmas present. That's the thing with these types of statements, to the higher ups they don't mean anything. I said in another thread last night but the hardcore/sim community is outnumbered probably 10:1 by the casual community.

[Bolieve]

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OK cool EA loses you as 1 consumer but gains 500,000 new ones because they have grown up to just get video games and their parents buy the game for them as a birthday or christmas present. That's the thing with these types of statements, to the higher ups they don't mean anything. I said in another thread last night but the hardcore/sim community is outnumbered probably 10:1 by the casual community.

Doesn't matter how many don't buy the game or who do. A person votes with their wallet. There's a base for this. Other sports game understand this concept. It's been mysteriously lost on the Madden perps. Why? Who knows. Why take away that compenent?

[db56]

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OK cool EA loses you as 1 consumer but gains 500,000 new ones because they have grown up to just get video games and their parents buy the game for them as a birthday or christmas present. That's the thing with these types of statements, to the higher ups they don't mean anything. I said in another thread last night but the hardcore/sim community is outnumbered probably 10:1 by the casual community.

Screw all the generation X crowd and older that are now in their 30's and 40's that want killer gameplay and a gen 2 franchise mode experience. What's it matter that their economic support through the 90's helped us become what we are today.

Totally agree with your assessment, reading it makes me want to vomit.

[jfen31]

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Doesn't matter how many don't buy the game or who do. A person votes with their wallet. There's a base for this. Other sports game understand this concept. It's been mysteriously lost on the Madden perps. Why? Who knows. Why take away that compenent?

I'm a diehard CPU vs. CPU advocate. It kills me that it's not in the game. With that said...

Ever been in a store (like a Gamestop) where teenagers are buying and/or discussing Madden? It's hard to believe we're even talking about the same game. A lot of the "casual" base has no interest in SIM, or watching the computer play. They want to play against their friends, run a bunch of ridiculous glitch plays, and talk a bunch of pointless trash.

Some day, we'll get a game that doesn't try its hardest to appeal to that crowd.

[Skyboxer]

Re: CPU vs. CPU in offline CFM? (Madden NFL 16)

I'm a diehard CPU vs. CPU advocate. It kills me that it's not in the game. With that said...

Ever been in a store (like a Gamestop) where teenagers are buying and/or discussing Madden? It's hard to believe we're even talking about the same game. A lot of the "casual" base has no interest in SIM, or watching the computer play. They want to play against their friends, run a bunch of ridiculous glitch plays, and talk a bunch of pointless trash.

Some day, we'll get a game that doesn't try its hardest to appeal to that crowd.

Problem is "that crowd" is probably 80% of the fan base. So in a business standpoint it makes the best practice to cater to them.

Hopefully we're getting closer and closer each year to what we want and frankly "should" be able to appeal to both if done right.

[bugkill1sf]

Re: CPU vs. CPU in offline CFM? (Madden NFL 16)

OK cool EA loses you as 1 consumer but gains 500,000 new ones because they have grown up to just get video games and their parents buy the game for them as a birthday or christmas present. That's the thing with these types of statements, to the higher ups they don't mean anything. I said in another thread last night but the hardcore/sim community is outnumbered probably 10:1 by the casual community.

Don't give a damn about the numbers. I and many others won't buy it because the game will still feel like last year's game and that is what matters here. The gameplay and graphics can only go so far before many of the casual fans will complain that the differences are not much given the $60 price tag.

Content matters and like I said, if offline CFM is not updated, just not a purchase for many of us.

[Skyboxer]

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Don't give a damn about the numbers. I and many others won't buy it because the game will still feel like last year's game and that is what matters here. The gameplay and graphics can only go so far before many of the casual fans will complain that the differences are not much given the $60 price tag.

Content matters and like I said, if offline CFM is not updated, just not a purchase for many of us.

Which is fine. But to continually post this info like it will do anything in regards to EA's thought process is pointless. Drop in the bucket if you or "many others" don't buy.

I skipped a few Maddens and simply moved on with life.

This one seems to be a nice upgrade from 15 (which I liked 15 also.. perfect? Hell no but still had fun)

[Skyboxer]

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Doesn't matter how many don't buy the game or who do. A person votes with their wallet. There's a base for this. Other sports game understand this concept. It's been mysteriously lost on the Madden perps. Why? Who knows. Why take away that compenent?

Nothings been lost on Madden team. They will continue to cater to the vast majority of buyers of Madden.. the casual.
For them to go away from that and risk alienating the main $ income would be stupid.

[roadman]

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It's great people take a stand and believe in their principals and I've seen the outcry for the past decade on OS, but the game still keeps plugging away, year by year.

[bugkill1sf]

Re: CPU vs. CPU in offline CFM? (Madden NFL 16)

Which is fine. But to continually post this info like it will do anything in regards to EA's thought process is pointless. Drop in the bucket if you or "many others" don't buy.

I skipped a few Maddens and simply moved on with life.

This one seems to be a nice upgrade from 15 (which I liked 15 also.. perfect? Hell no but still had fun)

Nothings been lost on Madden team. They will continue to cater to the vast majority of buyers of Madden.. the casual.
For them to go away from that and risk alienating the main $ income would be stupid.

That is the problem with you people that defend EA, you have no real self worth when discussing the product because many ACCEPT this BS from the Madden team. Look, the game for casual gamers would REMAIN the same! We are not talking about subtracting from the game, but actually refining and adding more options that are simple as hell for them to do.

There is ZERO reason to talk about the casual gamer in this thread because they won't be affected at all with what we are talking about for offline CFM, but that is always your excuse for EA to not tweak the damn mode, and it is a lame excuse. I'm sorry, but isn't offline CFM in the game and has been for the last couple of years? Yes! Well, don't you think that since that mode is in the game that the gamers have a right to have their voices heard in providing more options for the mode since it is being rolled out again?

This is not about offline CFM not being in the game. Its about offline CFM needing more options in playing the mode and getting variety. So please stop with the excuses for the Madden team because what is being asked here is nothing groundbreaking and has been in a Madden game before. Casual gamers and the money Madden makes is not the point here. They offer the damn mode and those of us as paying customers and supporters of the mode have every damn right to make it a point to voice our opinion on what they are offering.

Yes, they will make money, but losing a segment of gamers is NEVER good over a mode that could easily feature more CPU vs CPU options and editing draft classes.

[bugkill1sf]

Re: CPU vs. CPU in offline CFM? (Madden NFL 16)

Skyboxer,

I insulted no one when I said some of you don't know your self worth. It's based on the fact that many of you are accepting and actually defending EA's lack of content for a game that makes millions upon millions. Ignore your own comments.