Is The New Aggressive Catch Overpowered? (Possible Tweak Coming In Tuning Update?)

[The JareBear]

Re: Madden 16: Is the new Aggressive Catch overpowered?

For those of you not reading the whole thread, Rex already pointed out that they will be tuning WR down in a tuning patch.

I totally missed this. Is this in this thread?

[D81SKINS]

Re: Madden 16: Is the new Aggressive Catch overpowered?

I tend to agree. I played several games during the EA Access trial, and have watched several more streamers including our own Milennium who had a highly entertaining stream last night, and I saw nothing really that gave me the feeling that the aggressive catch mechanic was OP, especially considering that in general the pass rush is on the weak side.

I concur, but remember we play sim and I may only attempt 3 to 4 per gm and may have 1 or 2 that are completed. I've seen more knocked by the cpu than I've caught, I know that for fact. Keep in mind, I'm not just throwing deep high point passes all game to my elite WR. I'm actually taking what they give me, and usually it's an attempt to multiple WR's/TE's.
I use the Skins and Garcon has caught some but not D Jax. So alot of it is how the user decides to play the game and who they're targeting.

[MoneyOvaHuds]

Madden 16: Is the new Aggressive Catch overpowered?

Rex called Wyza a liar and not to subscribe to his channel [emoji23][emoji23] smh Rex does comes off as an a hole sometimes

[DreSki]

Re: Madden 16: Is the new Aggressive Catch overpowered?

The only problem i have with a aggressive catches is that they can be "forced" on every play if you want them to be which makes for times where you cant have a DB defend it in time. What also make it op in a sense is that for a majority of aggressive catches the WR gets a hold of the ball at first and then it gets knocked out. Make it feel like your moreso hoping for a drop then defending it well.

Personally id like to see more knockdowns before the receiver can get a hand on it.

[SolidSquid]

Re: Madden 16: Is the new Aggressive Catch overpowered?

The only problem i have with a aggressive catches is that they can be "forced" on every play if you want them to be which makes for times where you cant have a DB defend it in time. What also make it op in a sense is that for a majority of aggressive catches the WR gets a hold of the ball at first and then it gets knocked out. Make it feel like your moreso hoping for a drop then defending it well.

Personally id like to see more knockdowns before the receiver can get a hand on it.

Have you tried using the X button to swat the ball. Doing that I find the DBs have some pretty sweet swat animations.

[Gorilla Glass]

Re: Madden 16: Is the new Aggressive Catch overpowered?

For those of you not reading the whole thread, Rex already pointed out that they will be tuning WR down in a tuning patch.

Good Stuff.

thx

[charter04]

Re: Madden 16: Is the new Aggressive Catch overpowered?

For those of you not reading the whole thread, Rex already pointed out that they will be tuning WR down in a tuning patch.

When did he say that?


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[sethschroeder]

Re: Madden 16: Is the new Aggressive Catch overpowered?

I concur, but remember we play sim and I may only attempt 3 to 4 per gm and may have 1 or 2 that are completed. I've seen more knocked by the cpu than I've caught, I know that for fact. Keep in mind, I'm not just throwing deep high point passes all game to my elite WR. I'm actually taking what they give me, and usually it's an attempt to multiple WR's/TE's.
I use the Skins and Garcon has caught some but not D Jax. So alot of it is how the user decides to play the game and who they're targeting.

The one thing I disagree with is if in the real NFL they could throw 40 passes to Calvin Johnson and have him catch 40%+ of them for 30+ yards you would only see them do that all game long.

The only lucky thing is that they have sliders that when messed with will correct this issue moving forward. All I know is that with the little MUT SP I have played I could throw it up to Cooper all game long and get gets about 80-90% of the 1:1s vs 60ish rated CBs. In Franchise I noticed less of this and CBs were knocking these balls down more.

[D81SKINS]

Re: Madden 16: Is the new Aggressive Catch overpowered?

The one thing I disagree with is if in the real NFL they could throw 40 passes to Calvin Johnson and have him catch 40%+ of them for 30+ yards you would only see them do that all game long.

The only lucky thing is that they have sliders that when messed with will correct this issue moving forward. All I know is that with the little MUT SP I have played I could throw it up to Cooper all game long and get gets about 80-90% of the 1:1s vs 60ish rated CBs. In Franchise I noticed less of this and CBs were knocking these balls down more.

Yeah if they did attempt to throw that much to him irl, in a single game, he'd either be so fatigued it just wouldn't happen or he'd get hurt.
Also, I've only played vs CPU in Play now and default all-pro. And the cpu does knock down 3 out 4. It may be easier to do in MUT and user vs user, idk haven't played those modes.
Also sliders do seem to be really effective across the board, so that's great news for CFM!

[The JareBear]

Re: Madden 16: Is the new Aggressive Catch overpowered?

Honestly based on what I've seen if they just run the AI controlled DBs to play man in these cases instead of play ball (unless it's a clear pick) it would balance out a lot more

[roadman]

Re: Madden 16: Is the new Aggressive Catch overpowered?

When did he say that?


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I thought someone reported it by now or thought it was in here.

Rex is also on Twitter, he posted this three days ago.


Jefe @Mr_DirtySprit3 Aug 20
@RexDEAFootball Game looks great Rex! Just 1 major flaw..Will the Aggresive catch be toned down post patch? #GREATGAMEIFTHATHAPPENS


Rex Dickson
@RexDEAFootball
@Mr_DirtySprit3 We will have a tuning update before the post launch patch. Details forthcoming.

[wundrbread33]

Re: Madden 16: Is the new Aggressive Catch overpowered?

From what I've experience, it is far more balanced on All-Madden.

Also people need to play the ball more...like real DB's do. We are just used to playing Madden D by just pressing Y, but I have been using X with much success.

Also, it gets better when you turn ball hawk off. I feel I am better able to put the defender where I want instead of the game doing it for me.

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[charter04]

Re: Madden 16: Is the new Aggressive Catch overpowered?

I thought someone reported it by now or thought it was in here.



Rex is also on Twitter, he posted this three days ago.





Jefe @Mr_DirtySprit3 Aug 20

@RexDEAFootball Game looks great Rex! Just 1 major flaw..Will the Aggresive catch be toned down post patch? #GREATGAMEIFTHATHAPPENS





Rex Dickson

@RexDEAFootball

@Mr_DirtySprit3 We will have a tuning update before the post launch patch. Details forthcoming.

Awesome. Thanks man.

[booker21]

Madden 16: Is the new Aggressive Catch overpowered?

Hmmm I read his tweet. I guess he can't comment much but it's not a yes or no. First he linked a tutorial video on how stop steaks. So the guy assume it won't be tone down. Then he said that but he didn't say yes it will be tone down or no.

@RexDEAFootball: @ManuGinobili987 Tuning update out soon. Want people to know there are defensive counters and lob streakers lose a lot more than win.


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[JKSportsGamer1984]

Re: Madden 16: Is the new Aggressive Catch overpowered?

I think people have different definitions of "OP". In my opinion, it's not that aggressive catching is OP (I do see the balance as far as the defense being able to get their fair share of breakups, deflections, INT's, etc..) it's the fact that too many receivers are able to trigger one handed / spectacular catches that should only be triggered by elite receivers. Far too often I'm seeing average receivers going up & pulling down catches with 2 or 3 defenders draped all over them. I'm seeing defenders in perfect position to get INT's only to see the receiver magically come down with the ball (almost as if the animation is predetermined in the receivers favor). How often do we see this IRL? I'm seeing catches that you would only see about 3 to 4 times a year in the NFL happen about 3 to 4 times a game in Madden smh.

So in my humble opinion, I do think aggressive catching needs to be toned down. Rex is so caught up with people calling it "OP" when maybe that's the wrong terminology. The question we should be asking is how often do we see these types of catches IRL? I understand that if you have an elite receiver he should be able to come down with most of these aggressive catches if not defended properly, but I shouldn't be seeing average receivers being able to do the same with regularity.