Is The New Aggressive Catch Overpowered? (Possible Tweak Coming In Tuning Update?)

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  • BleedGreen710
    Eagles Fan
    • Oct 2012
    • 4025

    #91
    Re: Madden 16: Is the new Aggressive Catch overpowered?

    Originally posted by takki
    This video is exactly what I'm worried about.


    Anto gets a mind blowing spec catch in perfect double coverage in this video. Which is fine, I have no problem with a great catch in the clutch.

    But then the very next play, he throws into double coverage again and gets another impossible catch. I dunno if Zfarls incorrectly used an interception catch in that situation but even so, that first catch should have never happened based on how well he was covered.
    wow no kidding, that was hard to watch. yikes

    also, i had to do a double take at one part- i thought they brought back the qb vision cone!

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    • RexDEAFootball
      Creative Director Madden
      • Jun 2013
      • 74

      #92
      Re: Madden 16: Is the new Aggressive Catch overpowered?

      Originally posted by takki
      This video is exactly what I'm worried about.


      Anto gets a mind blowing spec catch in perfect double coverage in this video. Which is fine, I have no problem with a great catch in the clutch.

      But then the very next play, he throws into double coverage again and gets another impossible catch. I dunno if Zfarls incorrectly used an interception catch in that situation but even so, that first catch should have never happened based on how well he was covered.
      He is playing Draft Champions. You can get 20+ point ratings differences between elite/drafted players vs. base players. DC game balance is unique to that mode, it plays very differently from online ranked/play now/cfm.

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      • 4thQtrStre5S
        MVP
        • Nov 2013
        • 3051

        #93
        Re: Madden 16: Is the new Aggressive Catch overpowered?

        Originally posted by RexDEAFootball
        He is playing Draft Champions. You can get 20+ point ratings differences between elite/drafted players vs. base players. DC game balance is unique to that mode, it plays very differently from online ranked/play now/cfm.
        Thank you for taking the time to explain the situation..This info helps relieve some of my concerns...

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        • BleedGreen710
          Eagles Fan
          • Oct 2012
          • 4025

          #94
          Re: Madden 16: Is the new Aggressive Catch overpowered?

          Originally posted by RexDEAFootball
          He is playing Draft Champions. You can get 20+ point ratings differences between elite/drafted players vs. base players. DC game balance is unique to that mode, it plays very differently from online ranked/play now/cfm.
          I didnt catch that, thanks for the explanation!

          also earlier in the video he tried it and the cornerback got an amazing interception, so it can really go either way I guess

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          • urlacher51
            Tom Brady, L.O.A.T
            • Oct 2002
            • 611

            #95
            Re: Madden 16: Is the new Aggressive Catch overpowered?

            hey guys, I did a little testing in practice mode.

            me Denver, cpu defense seattle.
            shotgun three wr set vs nickle cover 3 press, i had D.T. running a fly routes vs sherman.
            I was 5 for 10 aggressive catch vs sherman in cover 3 press.
            Next i choose Nickle cover 3 in the nickle 2 gap formation vs same shotgun three wr set, with D.T. running a fly route vs sherman.
            I went 3 for 10 aggressive catch vs sherman.

            Now i know H2H is going to be different.
            still going to do more testing.
            Also this was on default ALL PRO.
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            • BleedGreen710
              Eagles Fan
              • Oct 2012
              • 4025

              #96
              Re: Madden 16: Is the new Aggressive Catch overpowered?

              Originally posted by urlacher51
              hey guys, I did a little testing in practice mode.

              me Denver, cpu defense seattle.
              shotgun three wr set vs nickle cover 3 press, i had D.T. running a fly routes vs sherman.
              I was 5 for 10 aggressive catch vs sherman in cover 3 press.
              Next i choose Nickle cover 3 in the nickle 2 gap formation vs same shotgun three wr set, with D.T. running a fly route vs sherman.
              I went 3 for 10 aggressive catch vs sherman.

              Now i know H2H is going to be different.
              still going to do more testing.
              Also this was on default ALL PRO.
              thanks for the data. how many interceptions were there?

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              • urlacher51
                Tom Brady, L.O.A.T
                • Oct 2002
                • 611

                #97
                Re: Madden 16: Is the new Aggressive Catch overpowered?

                Also i think Nickle 2 Gap is new defensive formation this year.
                Rise of the Sim King (Striving for Sim Supremacy)https://youtu.be/TalUkHIEnOM

                Quote From one of EA Sports Game Changers
                ( None of us have the power to control when EA Sports will implement/fix/address things in their games after we suggest them)

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                • 4thQtrStre5S
                  MVP
                  • Nov 2013
                  • 3051

                  #98
                  Re: Madden 16: Is the new Aggressive Catch overpowered?

                  Originally posted by urlacher51
                  Also i think Nickle 2 Gap is new defensive formation this year.
                  I have been thinking that the Nickel 2 Gap is part of the answer to many run plays, like the 01 Trap, that were very effective in M15...They apparently also changed how 4-3 defensive linemen attacked gaps; in M15 whenever I saw a 4-3 defense, which was set with one DT at the 1/2 gap and the other DT at the 3 gap, it was a sure thing that Trap 01 was going to get big yards, unless you adjusted the DT's to crash the middle, but the CPU didn't do that, so easy yards..
                  Last edited by 4thQtrStre5S; 08-17-2015, 08:05 AM.

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                  • urlacher51
                    Tom Brady, L.O.A.T
                    • Oct 2002
                    • 611

                    #99
                    Re: Madden 16: Is the new Aggressive Catch overpowered?

                    Originally posted by BleedGreen710
                    thanks for the data. how many interceptions were there?
                    in the 5 for 10 , i think 2 were picks
                    and the 3 for 10, three were picks.
                    it seems like to me the more cushion the DB has more chance of pick vs just a pass break up. Were as pressing the wr, more chance of aggressive catch being caught on you or just a pass break up.
                    Rise of the Sim King (Striving for Sim Supremacy)https://youtu.be/TalUkHIEnOM

                    Quote From one of EA Sports Game Changers
                    ( None of us have the power to control when EA Sports will implement/fix/address things in their games after we suggest them)

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                    • urlacher51
                      Tom Brady, L.O.A.T
                      • Oct 2002
                      • 611

                      #100
                      Re: Madden 16: Is the new Aggressive Catch overpowered?

                      this time me Denver vs cpu Browns

                      three wr set vs nickle cover 3 with D.T. running a fly route vs Haden.
                      4 for 10 aggressive catch , Haden had no picks.
                      three wr set vs nickle cover 3 buzz press.
                      8 for 10 aggressive catch. Haden no picks.

                      Default All Pro.
                      I'm starting to think Taller DB's play aggressive catch better when your pressing the wr. Haden 5'11, Sherman 6'2
                      when playing taller wr's.
                      Rise of the Sim King (Striving for Sim Supremacy)https://youtu.be/TalUkHIEnOM

                      Quote From one of EA Sports Game Changers
                      ( None of us have the power to control when EA Sports will implement/fix/address things in their games after we suggest them)

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                      • BleedGreen710
                        Eagles Fan
                        • Oct 2012
                        • 4025

                        #101
                        Re: Madden 16: Is the new Aggressive Catch overpowered?

                        this is 1vs1 right? wouldn't a WR in real life win a 1 vs 1 the majority of the time?

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                        • urlacher51
                          Tom Brady, L.O.A.T
                          • Oct 2002
                          • 611

                          #102
                          Re: Madden 16: Is the new Aggressive Catch overpowered?

                          Originally posted by BleedGreen710
                          this is 1vs1 right? wouldn't a WR in real life win a 1 vs 1 the majority of the time?
                          Yes, one on one.
                          Rise of the Sim King (Striving for Sim Supremacy)https://youtu.be/TalUkHIEnOM

                          Quote From one of EA Sports Game Changers
                          ( None of us have the power to control when EA Sports will implement/fix/address things in their games after we suggest them)

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                          • DerkontheOS
                            MVP
                            • Jul 2009
                            • 3136

                            #103
                            Re: Madden 16: Is the new Aggressive Catch overpowered?

                            Originally posted by RexDEAFootball
                            He is playing Draft Champions. You can get 20+ point ratings differences between elite/drafted players vs. base players. DC game balance is unique to that mode, it plays very differently from online ranked/play now/cfm.
                            Thank you Rex,

                            I don't know if it has been said yet but we really appreciate whenever you come by and let us know you guys are watching.

                            Don't be a stranger, you have the game headed in a good direction.

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                            • DreSki
                              Rookie
                              • Nov 2006
                              • 258

                              #104
                              Re: Madden 16: Is the new Aggressive Catch overpowered?

                              From asking people who have the game already they are telling me the aggressive catches arent as bad as they seem. They are saying people are trying to go for ints and not using the play receiver button either because they dont know its there or they just want Ints.

                              From what im hearing going for the int instead of the knockdown is a huge risk vs reward this year which is why alot of deep bombs are being caught. So hopefully its true. The one handed catches are a little over the top tho still. They should be a rarity not the norm.

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                              • Mauer4MVP
                                MVP
                                • Mar 2010
                                • 2407

                                #105
                                Re: Madden 16: Is the new Aggressive Catch overpowered?

                                With the nature of what the buttons do, we will all run into insane catches and even a spree of where it seems the button is OP or isn't working.

                                Overall, it seems that it balances out, though.

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